Oct 07, 2026 Equity and Human Relations Commission

GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY, AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING THE EQUITY AND HUMAN RELATIONS COMMISSION WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 7TH, 2026.

UH, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

UH, CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

COMMISSIONER DOCKERY.

[CALL TO ORDER]

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FLORES.

HERE.

COMMISSIONER COLE? HERE.

COMMISSIONER LAUDER.

HERE.

COMMISSIONER MONTGOMERY.

PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER EO HERE.

[ROLL CALL]

I, AND FULL ATTENDANCE, WHICH IS VERY EXCITING.

BE READY FOR A GROUP PICTURE AT THE END OF THE DAY.

EVERYBODY.

UH, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND PASS IT OVER, UH, TO, UH, COMMISSIONER TAMME W FOR THE LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT.

PRESENT, AND FUTURE FOR THEIR STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE TO PROTECTING THIS LAND.

WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE LIVE, WORK, AND GATHER ON THE TRA THE TRADITIONAL SACRED AND UNSEATED LANDS OF THE QUI AMAN ASH AND OTHER INDIGENOUS GROUPS WHO CALL THESE GROUNDS HOME.

WE HONOR AND EXTEND GRATITUDE TO THE IN INDIGENOUS PEOPLE, PAST,

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WE ASPIRE TO UPHOLD OUR RESPONSIBILITIES ACCORDING TO THEIR EXAMPLE.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SAMAL.

UH, AND WELCOME.

UH, NORMALLY WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A PREAMBLE FOR, UH, GUESTS WHO ARE FIRST TIME, UH, ATTENDEES TO WALK THROUGH THE PROCESS.

I KNOW THAT, UH, WE HAVE TWO FOLKS HERE WHO ARE SPEAKERS.

I DON'T THINK YOU NEED ME TO WALK YOU THROUGH HOW TO GIVE PUBLIC COMMENT.

YOU ALL ARE WELL EXPERIENCED.

UH, AND SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND SKIP THAT.

UM, BUT DO WANNA WELCOME EVERYBODY TO OUR MEETING THIS MONTH.

UM, THIS IS, UH, CLOSING UP THE END OF HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH, AS WELL AS THE BEGINNING OF FILIPINO AMERICAN HISTORY MONTH.

UH, WE HAVE SOME, UH, COMPELLING, UH, WORK HERE TODAY IN FRONT OF US THAT OUR, UH, GUESTS ARE GONNA BE SPEAKING ON A LITTLE BIT, AND THAT OUR, UH, STAFFER TONY IS GONNA BE SPEAKING ON AS WELL.

AND SO I'M VERY EXCITED FOR THAT PORTION OF THE AGENDA.

AND THEN AFTERWARDS, UM, WE HAVE, UH, SOME PRESENTATIONS FROM ONE OF OUR AD HOC COMMITTEES THAT HAS BEEN DOING SOME WORK OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS TO REPAIR A LETTER AROUND, UH, DISASTER PREPAREDNESS, UH, AND EQUITY AND HUMAN RELATIONS IMPACTS OF THAT.

SO THAT'LL BE THE NEXT PIECE.

UM, AND THEN WE'LL CLOSE WITH AN AD HOC PORTION.

UM, JUST KIND OF LOOKING AHEAD TO THAT AD HOC CONVERSATION.

UM, WE HAVE OUR LAST LISTENING SESSIONS COMING UP EARLY NEXT QUARTER, SO WE'LL BE HOPING TO, UH, ENGAGE IN CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT.

UH, AND SO WE'RE REALLY STARTING TO MOVE THROUGH THE, UH, LATTER HALF OF THAT JOURNEY.

SO SHOULD BE A PRODUCTIVE AGENDA TODAY.

UH, AND APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT COMMISSIONER HAVE HAD IN EVERY ONE OF THOSE ITEMS TO GET US TO THIS POINT.

UM, AND SO WITH THAT, GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE US IN.

UH, CLERK, PLEASE READ THE FIRST ITEM.

ITEM ONE IS THE RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE EQUITY AND HUMAN RELATIONS COMMISSION MEETING OF WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 2ND, 2026.

I MOVE.

WE, WE APPROVE.

IT'S, UH, OH.

CAN WE USE THE TABLETS, PLEASE?

[1. 26-56362 Recommendation to approve the minutes for the Equity and Human Relations Commission meeting of Wednesday, September 2, 2026. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

WE HAVE A, A MOTION TO SECOND WE'LL HOLD FOR TECHNICAL SUPPORT.

I WAS JUST FOR YOU.

YOU WAITING? GO AHEAD AND DO VERBAL.

WE CAN GO OFF OF THE, THE SCREEN.

SO IT'S A MOTION BY COMM COMMISSIONER MONTGOMERY, AND SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR SCHULTZ.

THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.

IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

UM, ANY REPORT OR PRESENTATION ON THE ITEM? UM, ASSUMING NONE, ANY, UM, CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

I SEE NO ONE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

I THINK WE CAN GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO THE MOTION.

SO AT THIS TIME, IF, UM, IF JOINING FROM THE ZOOM, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FEATURE OR HIT R NINE IF YOU'RE CALLING IN SEEING NA CHAIR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, WE CAN CALL FOR THE VOTE.

COMMISSIONER BUTLER.

AND COMMISSIONER SAIA? YES.

UM, I, I DON'T THINK I'M LOGGED INTO THE SYSTEM, BUT YES.

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UM, THE LONG BEACH JUSTICE FUND SUPPORTS LEGAL REPRESENTATION FOR IMMIGRANTS WHO LIVE, WORK, OR HAVE STRONG TIES TO LONG BEACH AND ARE FACING DEPORTATION.

ALRIGHT, EXCELLENT.

UH, THANK YOU EVERYBODY.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND READ THE NEXT ITEM.

ITEM TWO IS A RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE PRESENTATIONS FROM THE OFFICE OF EQUITY IN THE LONG BEACH JUSTICE FUND COMMUNITY CONNECTORS REGARDING THE LONG BEACH JUSTICE FUND IMPACT REPORT, INCLUDING PROGRAM IMPACT, KEY FINDINGS, INSIGHTS, CHALLENGES, AND A LOOK AHEAD.

ALRIGHT, WE'LL TAKE A MOTION.

AND WE HAVE A BELIEVER REPORT AND PRESENTATION COMING UP.

UH, HELLO COMMISSIONERS.

UM, SO I'M GONNA LEAD YOU THROUGH THE PRESENTATION AS THE OFFICE OF EQUITY OVERSEAS, THE LONG BEACH JUSTICE FUND.

AND THIS REPORT CAME OUT FROM, FROM, UH, OUR OFFICE.

SO,

[2. 26-56363 Recommendation to receive and file presentations from the Office of Equity and the Long Beach Justice Fund Community Connectors regarding the Long Beach Justice Fund Impact Report, including program impact, key findings and insights, challenges, and a look ahead. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

THE GOAL OF THE LONG BEACH JUSTICE FUND IS TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF FAMILIES IMPACTED BY DEPORTATION, INCREASED PREVENTATIVE MEASURES, AND COMMUNITY ACCESS, IMPROVE CONNECTION TO SUPPORTIVE SERVICES, STRENGTHENING THE SOCIAL SERVICE NET, AND ULTIMATELY KEEP FAMILIES TOGETHER.

SINCE NOVEMBER 1ST, 2021, THE OFFICE OF EQUITY, WHICH IS HOUSED WITHIN THE CITY MANAGER'S DEPARTMENT, HAS LED PROGRAM MANAGEMENT RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THE CONTINUED IMPLEMENTATION OF THE JUSTICE FUND.

UM, THIS REPORT HIGHLIGHTS THE IMPACT OF THE LONG BEACH JUSTICE FUND FROM THE PROGRAM'S INCEPTION IN JUNE OF 2019 THROUGH DECEMBER OF 2025.

THE, UH, REPORT COVERS, UM, THE REPORT COVERS PROGRAM HISTORY, PROGRAM GOALS, TIMELINESS, UH, PROGRAM SERVICES, PROGRAM FUNDING.

UH, WE ALSO THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO INCLUDE, UM, IMPACT STORIES FROM THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN SERVED BY THE PROGRAM.

UH, AND THEN LASTLY, THE REPORT LOOKS AT SOME CHALLENGES AND NEW INSIGHTS.

AND THEN A BREATHER'S A BRIEF SECTION ON LOOKING AHEAD.

SO, UH, THE, THE, SO, PROGRAM HISTORY, UM, THE JUSTICE FUND WAS ESTABLISHED, UM, BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN 2018 IN RESPONSE TO THE NEED OF LEGAL REPRESENTATION FOR IMMIGRANTS FACING THE THREAT OF DEPORTATION.

THE PROGRAM IS DESIGNED TO PROTECT DUE PROCESS RIGHTS OF IMMIGRANT AND REFUGEE RESIDENTS WHO ARE AN INTEGRAL PART OF, UM, THE LONG BEACH COMMUNITY.

THE LONG BEACH JUSTICE FUND PROVIDES FREE LEGAL REPRESENTATION TO LOW INCOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO LIVE OR WORK IN LONG BEACH, OR HAVE STRONG TIES TO THE CITY, AND ARE FACING DEPORTATION PROCEEDINGS.

AND THE PROGRAM IS BUILT UNDER UNIVERSAL REPRESENTATION MODEL, WHICH MEANS THAT, UM, THE PROGRAM IS MEANT TO PROVIDE REPRESENTATION TO AS MANY ELIGIBLE INDIVIDUALS AS FUNDING WILL ALLOW WITHOUT FIRST ASSESSING THE MERITS OF THEIR IMMIGRATION CASE.

UM, AND WHILE THE PROGRAM ORIGINALLY BEGAN, UH, A, A FOCUS OF, OF, UH, PROVIDING REMOVAL DEFENSE SERVICES, UM, THE JUSTICE FUND HAS EVOLVED TO PROVIDE A BROADER CONTINUUM OF IMMIGRATION, LEGAL, AND COMMUNITY SUPPORTIVE SERVICES.

THE GOALS OF THE LONG BEACH JUSTICE FUND ARE TO INCREASE LEGAL REPRESENTATION OF LOW INCOME IMMIGRANTS, UH, WITH TIES TO LONG BEACH, UH, IMPROVE CONNECTION TO OTHER IMMIGRATION LEGAL SERVICES AND PROGRAMS, STRENGTHEN THE SOCIAL SERVICE OF BASIC NEEDS, ASSISTANCE RESOURCES, AND PROVIDE, UH, AND PROVIDERS AVAILABLE TO IMMIGRANTS AND REFUGEES, IMPROVE CONNECTIONS TO SUPPORTIVE SERVICE, UH, SERVICES, PROGRAMS, AND RESOURCES FOR LOW INCOME, UH, IMMIGRANT LONG BEACH RESIDENTS, FIGHTING DEPORTATION PROCEEDINGS, AND INCREASE LEGAL LITERACY FOR LONG BEACH IMMIGRANT FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES.

SO, A QUICK TIMELINE OF THE JUSTICE FUND, AGAIN, SINCE ITS INCEPTION TO NOW.

UM, IN 2018, THE LONG BEACH CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO ESTABLISH A LONG BEACH JUSTICE FUND, UM, UH, POSITIONING LONG BEACH AS ONE OF THE FIRST CITIES IN, UH, LOS ANGELES COUNTY TO ADVANCE A MERITS BLIND IMMIGRATION LEGAL DEFENSE PROGRAM, UH, IN APRIL, 2019, THROUGH A PARTNERSHIP WITH, UH, WITH VERA, UM, UH, SO VERA PARTNERS WITH THE CITY TO SUPPORT IMMIGRATION, UH, TO SUPPORT IMPLEMENTATION OF LANGUAGE JUSTICE FUND.

AND IN JUNE, UH, 2019, AFTER A COMPETITIVE RFP PROCESS, UM, THE CITY IDENTIFIED, UH, M DEPTH AS THE FIRST LEGAL SERVICE PROVIDER TO PROVIDE REMOVAL DEFENSE SERVICES.

UM, THOSE SERVICES, AGAIN, BEGINNING IN JUNE OF 2019, UM, IN 2020, IN JANUARY OF 2022, THE CITY LAUNCHES THE COMMUNITY CONNECTOR MODEL THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS WITH , FORMERLY KNOWN AS LBRC, UM, CENTRO CHA AND ST.

MARY'S MEDICAL CENTER TO PROVIDE OUTREACH, EDUCATION, REFERRALS, ADVOCACY, AND LINKAGES TO SUPPORTIVE SERVICES.

UH, ON APRIL, 2024, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED CONTRACTS WITH FOUR VENDORS TO EXPAND IMPLEMENTATION OF THE, OF THE JUSTICE FUND.

UM, THE VENDORS BEING ALO LAVO, UH, WAS SELECTED AS THE LEGAL SERVICE PROVIDER TO PROVIDE, UH, AFFIRMATIVE AND APPELLATE LEGAL SERVICES.

IN ADDITION TO THE REMOVAL OF DEFENSE SERVICES THAT MD UP HAD BEEN PROVIDING.

UH, WE ALSO IDENTIFIED , UH, THE UNITED CAMBODIAN COMMUNITY, KNOWN AS UCC AND THE FILIPINO MIGRANT CENTER TO PROVIDE, UH, COMMUNITY CONNECTION SERVICES.

AND, UM,

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IN JANUARY OF 2025, UM, IN RESPONSE TO A TEMPORARY LAPSE IN LEGAL SERVICES, UH, DURING A PROCUREMENT PROCESS, THE CITY APPROVED EXCEPTIONS TO POLICY TO CONTRACT WITH ESPERANZA IMMIGRANTS RIGHTS PROJECT AND WESTERN STATE COLLEGE OF LAW TO ENSURE CONTINUITY OF SERVICES THROUGH DECEMBER OF 2025.

AND THEN LASTLY, THIS PAST NOVEMBER OF 2025, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED, UM, THE, THE REQUEST, THE REQUEST FOR A NEW CONTRACT WITH PUBLIC COUNSEL, UM, AS THE NEW, UH, LANGUAGE JUSTICE FIND LEGAL SERVICE PROVIDER, UM, PROVIDING REMOVAL DEFENSE, APPELLATE REMOVAL, DEFENSE, PROVIDING REMOVAL, DEFENSE APPELLATE, UM, AFFIRMATIVE AND PRO SE LEGAL SERVICES.

AND THEY HAVE BEGUN, THEY, THEY BEGAN PROVIDING LEGAL SERVICES, UH, WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE PROGRAM IN JANUARY OF 2026.

THEY PROVIDED AFFIRMATIVE IMMIGRATION RELIEF AND APPELLATE REPRESENTATION.

SO, UH, I'M GONNA GO OVER A, UH, COMPREHENSIVE LIST AND DEFINITION OF WHAT, WHAT SERVICES ARE BEING COVERED THROUGH THE JUSTICE FUND.

UM, SO STARTING WITH LEGAL, WELL, SO THIS IS THE LIST OF SERVICES, UM, REMOVAL DEFENSE, WHICH, UH, PROVIDES REPRESENTATION FOR IMMIGRANTS FACING DEPORTATION PROCEEDINGS.

UM, THE PROGRAM CURRENTLY ALSO PROVIDES AFFIRMATIVE STATUS, UM, APPLICATIONS, WHICH, UH, INCLUDED IT INCLUDES, BUT IT'S NOT LIMITED TO U VISAS, WHICH ARE, UH, SET ASIDE FOR VICTIMS OF CERTAIN CRIMES WHO ARE HELPFUL IN THE INVESTIGATION OF AND OR PROSECUTION.

UM, OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.

UH, T VISAS, WHICH ENABLE VICTIMS OF QU AND QUALIFYING FAMILY MEMBERS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING WHO ARE HELPFUL IN THE INVESTIGATION OR PROSECUTION OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING TO REMAIN IN THE US FOR AN INITIAL PERIOD OF UP TO FOUR YEARS.

AND VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN PETITIONS, ALSO KNOWN AS BAWA PETITIONS.

UM, THE PROGRAM ALSO DOES APPELLATE REMOVAL DEFENSE, WHICH, UM, THESE ARE ACTIVITIES, UH, MAY INCLUDE FILING MOTIONS TO REOPEN AND NINTH CIRCUIT APPEALS FOR CASES IN WHICH IMMIGRATION JUDGE RULES ADVERSELY AGAINST, UH, AN IMMIGRANT'S ABILITY TO STAY IN THE UNITED STATES.

WE ALSO HAVE, UH, PRO SE, UM, UH, PROCESS, UH, UH, SUPPORT SERVICES.

UH, THESE ARE LEGAL ASSISTANCE AND GUIDANCE PROVIDED TO INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE REPRESENTING THEMSELVES IN COURT, OR, UH, IMMIGRATION PROCEEDINGS WITHOUT AN ATTORNEY.

THESE SERVICES MAY INCLUDE LEGAL CONSULTATIONS, HELP COMPLETING THE FORMS, FORMS AND FILINGS, KNOW YOUR RIGHTS, EDUCATION, PREPARATION FOR HEARINGS, DOCUMENTATION, REVIEW, AND ACCESS TO LEGAL RESOURCES OR WORKSHOPS ASSIGNED TO HELP INDIVIDUALS NAVIGATE COMPLEX LEGAL PROCEEDINGS ON THE ROAD.

AND THEN LASTLY, WE HAVE COMMUNITY CONNECTION SERVICES.

AND THESE ARE COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS SERVING UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS TO PROVIDE COMMUNITY CONNECTION SERVICES AND SUPPORT, UH, OUTREACH REFERRALS AND ACCESS TO LONG BEACH JUSTICE, UH, FUND RESOURCES, COMMUNITY CONNECTORS, SERVICE PROVIDERS CONDUCT OUTREACH AND PROVIDE EDUCATION ABOUT LEGAL SERVICES.

UH, THEY MAKE REFERRALS TO LEGAL SERVICE PROVIDERS, CONDUCT CASE MANAGEMENT AND RELATED ADVOCACY, AND PROVIDE LINKAGES TO COMPREHENSIVE SERVICES LIKE HOUSING AND FOOD ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS. UH, SINCE THE PROGRAM LAUNCHED IN 2019, WE'VE WORKED WITH, UH, WITH, UH, A FEW DIFFERENT LEGAL SERVICE PROVIDERS.

SO FROM 2019 TO 2024, IMMIGRANT DEFENDERS LAW CENTER IN DEPTH, UH, PROVIDED REMOVAL DEFENSE REPRESENTATION.

AND DURING THAT TIME PERIOD, SOME OF THE KEY IMPACTS, UM, UH, WERE, UH, THAT THEY REPRESENTED 97 CLIENTS IN REMOVAL DEFENSE, UH, PROCEEDINGS, SECURED BONDS, BOND RELEASES, CASE TERMINATIONS, AND OTHER FORMS OF LEGAL RELIEF.

UH, 2024 AND 2025, WE PARTNERED WITH ALDO.

UM, ALDO RECEIVED 126 REFERRALS, CONDUCTED 126 CONSULTATIONS, ACCEPTED 41 CASES FOR REPRESENTATION, 36 OF WHICH WERE AFFIRMATIVE, AND FIVE WERE APPELLATE CASES.

AND THEY ALSO FILED 34 APPLICATIONS FOR RELIEF IN 2025.

AGAIN, BECAUSE OF AN EXCEPTION OF POLICY.

UM, WE PARTNERED WITH ESPERANZA IMMIGRANT RIGHTS PROJECT.

THEY PROVIDED CONSULTATIONS, REMOVAL OF DEFENSE AND LEGAL SUPPORT SERVICES THEY PROVIDED.

UH, DURING THAT TIME, THEY PROVIDED SIX CONSULTATIONS AND, UH, REPRESENTED 14 MATTERS IN REMOVAL DEFENSE.

ALSO IN 2025 WEST WESTERN STATE COLLEGE OF LAW.

UH, THEY PROVIDED PRO SE SUPPORT SERVICES AND LEGAL FILINGS.

UH, AND SOME OF THE TAKEAWAYS IS THAT THEY PROVIDED A PRO SE CONSULTATIONS AND ACCEPTED 12 MATTERS, UM, AND APPLICATIONS FOR RELIEF FROM 2019 TO 2025.

IN TERMS OF LEGAL SERVICES, UH, THE PROGRAM DELIVERED 192 CONSULTATIONS ACCEPTED, 164 CASES FILED, 51 APPLICATIONS FOR RELIEF, INCLUDING 12 PRO SE FILINGS.

AND THE CASE BREAKDOWN IS AS FOLLOWS, 114 WERE REMOVAL DEFENSE CASES, 36 AFFIRMATIVE CASES, AND FIVE, UH, APPELLATE CASES.

UH, WE'VE ALSO PARTNERED WITH SEVERAL DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES, UH, BASED ORGANIZATIONS TO ACT AS, UM, COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY CONNECTORS IN THE PROGRAM.

UM, IN 2022, UH, UH, , FORMER LARC WAS A COMMUNITY CONNECTOR.

UM, THEN AGAIN, THEY, WE, WE ENTERED A CONTRACT WITH 'EM IN 2024, UH, 2025.

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UM, AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE A CONTRACT WITH TO CONTINUE DOING COMMUNITY CONNECTION SERVICES.

UM, SOME OF THE TAKEAWAYS, THERE WERE 86 REFERRALS TO LEGAL SERVICE, REPRESENTATION 48 KNOW YOUR RIGHTS, UH, UH, WORKSHOPS.

UM, ONE LARGE SCALE COMMUNITY EVENT, UM, AND PARTICIPATED IN 11 IN 11 COMMUNITY OUTREACH EVENTS.

CENTRO CHA, UH, HAD A, A, UH, WE PARTNERED WITH CENTRO CHA BACK IN 2022, WHERE THEY CONDUCTED TWO OH YEAR RIGHTS WORKSHOPS, 14 IMMIGRATION SCREENINGS AND, UH, INTAKE ASSESSMENTS WERE CONDUCTED.

101 ON ONE IMMIGRATION EDUCATION AND GUIDANCE SECTION.

UH, SESSIONS WERE PROVIDED.

AND, UM, NON-COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, UM, ACTIVITIES WERE CONDUCTED, UH, IN 2022.

WE ALSO PARTNERED WITH ST.

MARY'S MEDICAL CENTER, WHERE THEY DID A 24 REFERRALS TO LEGAL, LEGAL SERVICE, UH, PROVIDERS, UH, 24 COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND EDUCATION EVENTS.

EIGHT, KNOW YOUR RIGHTS WORKSHOPS, 66 CASE MANAGEMENT AND CLIENT NAVIGATION ENCOUNTERS.

UM, MOST CURRENTLY IN OUR CONTRACTS WITH, UM, UH, UCC, UH, IN 20 24, 20 25 UCC CONDUCTED OR, UH, FACILITATED 24 REFERRALS, 15 WORKSHOPS.

UM, ONE LARGE COMMUNITY EVENT, UH, UH, 28 COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EVENTS WITH THREE HUNDRED SEVEN HUNDRED AND THIRTY SEVEN PARTICIPANTS.

UM, CASE MANAGEMENT IS 739 CLIENTS.

AND, UH, UH, THEY WERE VERY ACTIVE IN SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS.

AND THEN, UH, LASTLY, UM, THE FILIPINO MIGRANT CENTER WAS A, WAS ALSO A COMMUNITY, WAS ALSO A COMMUNITY CONNECTOR THROUGH THE JUSTICE FUND, 20 24, 20 25.

AND SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS THERE, THEY, THEY, UH, REFERRED 44 PEOPLE FOR LEGAL REPRESENTATION, FACILITATED AID WORKSHOPS, ONE COMMUNITY EVENT, 12 COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES, UM, CASE MANAGEMENT AND SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS.

ALRIGHT, SO, UH, FUNDING, UM, FROM ITS INCEPTION THROUGH DECEMBER, 2025, THE LONG BEACH JUSTICE FUND, UH, HAS INVESTED $1,820,726 IN DIRECT SERVICES, UH, WHICH HIGHLIGHTS, UM, INCLUDE 164 CASES ACCEPTED FOR LEGAL REPRESENTATION, 192 LEGAL CONSULTATIONS AND 81 KNOW YOUR RIGHTS WORKSHOPS IN THAT TIMEFRAME.

UM, JUST A QUICK NOTE ABOUT, UH, THE FUNDING.

UM, EACH YEAR, 30,000, UH, APPROXIMATELY $30,000 OF THE STRUCTURAL ALLOCATION SUPPORT STAFF COSTS, UM, YEARS, UH, YEARS 20 23, 20 24.

UM, THE PROGRAM RECEIVED SOME FUNDING FROM LIBRA, WHICH COST WORK EXPENSE 16% OF THE ALLOCATIONS.

AND, UM, JUST A QUICK NOTE, THE PROGRAM'S CONTRACTS HAVE HISTORICALLY NOT ALIGNED WITH THE CITY'S FISCAL YEAR.

AND AS A RESULT, ALLOCATIONS AND EXPENDITURES FOR THE JUSTICE FUND SERVICES OFTEN SPAN TWO DIFFERENT FISCAL YEARS.

THEREFORE, CARRYOVER BALANCES ARE EXPECTED AND DO NOT NECESSARILY REPRESENT UNSPENT OR UNUSED FUNDS.

RATHER, UM, OFTEN REFLECT FUNDS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN ALLOCATED OR COMMITTED TO, UH, COMMITTED FOR SERVICES THAT WILL BE PROVIDED OR EXPANDED IN THE FOLLOWING FISCAL YEAR.

UM, AGAIN, SO JUST, THIS IS JUST THE, THE, THE SLIDE HERE IS JUST TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, HIGH, HIGH LEVEL, UM, UH, UH, UH, LIKE THE TAKEAWAYS OF THE PROGRAM, RIGHT? SO, SINCE, AGAIN, JUST TO REMIND YOU ALL OF THE, OF THE TIMEFRAME OF THE PROGRAM, OF THE, OF THE IMPACT REPORT.

UM, SINCE NOVEMBER 1ST, 2021, THE OFFICE OF EQUITY, AGAIN HOUSED WITHIN THE CITY MANAGER'S DEPARTMENT, HAS LED THE PROGRAM OF MANAGEMENT RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THE CONTINUED IMPLEMENTATION OF THE JUSTICE FUND.

THIS REPORT HIGHLIGHTS THE IMPACT OF THE JUSTICE FUND, UM, FROM THE PROGRAM CONCEPTION IN JUNE, 2019 THROUGH DECEMBER, 2025.

AND AGAIN, SOME OF THOSE HIGHLIGHTS, UM, ARE 164 CASES OF, FOR REPRESENTATION, 192 LEGAL CONSULTATIONS, 1000 TO 144 WORKSHOP PARTICIPANTS.

AND 6,168 COMMUNITY MEMBERS REACHED THROUGH OUTREACH, UH, IF YOU, SO WE INCLUDED A, UH, COPY OF THE REPORT ITSELF IN YOUR PACKET.

UM, AND YOU'RE, IF YOU GO THROUGH TO THE IMPACT STORY SECTION, YOU'RE ABLE TO, UH, READ A, A MUCH MORE, UH, IN DEPTH DESCRIPTION OF WHAT, UM, COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO WHO HAVE PARTICIPATED AND HAVE BEEN, UM, PROVIDED SERVICES THROUGH THE PROGRAMS HAVE TO SAY.

BUT I WANT TO SHARE A FEW OF THE QUOTES THAT STOOD OUT TO ME AND THAT HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE REPORT.

UM, ONE SAYS, UH, THE JUSTICE FUND HAS BEEN LIFE CHANGING, NOT ONLY FOR ME, BUT FOR THE ENTIRE IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY IN LONG BEACH, ESPECIALLY DURING THIS TIME OF UNCERTAINTY WHEN SO MANY MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY CONTINUE TO LIVE IN THE SHADOWS AND IN FEAR.

ANOTHER PARTICIPANT SAID, IT HAS MADE A TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE FOR IMMIGRANTS.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE HOPE.

IT FEELS LIKE THERE'S SOMEONE STANDING BESIDE YOU READY TO HELP.

ANOTHER PERSON SAID, MY STORY IS NOW ONE OF HOPE AND A REMINDER OF HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO SUPPORT OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE FACE SUCH SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES.

I HOPE MORE PEOPLE WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THIS FUND AND THE LEGAL REPRESENTATION IT PROVIDES.

AND, UH, ANOTHER PERSON SAID, I HAVE RECEIVED THE NECESSARY LEGAL SUPPORT AT NO COST, WHICH HAS EMPOWERED

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ME WITH THE TOOLS AND HOPE TO MOVE FORWARD.

THIS ENABLES ME TO STAY WITH MY HUSBAND AND MAKE FUTURE PLANS, INCLUDING STARTING THE FAMILY WE HAVE ALWAYS DESIRED.

UM, SO MOVING ON THE NEXT, UH, ONE OF THE, THE FINAL SECTIONS OF THE REPORT IS CHALLENGES AND NEW INSIGHTS.

AS, AS WE KNOW, IT'S, UM, THE NO, NO PROGRAM IS PERFECT.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF CHALLENGES THAT WE MUST NAVIGATE AS WE PROVIDE, UH, AS WE PROVIDE SERVICES FOR A PROGRAM SUCH LIKE THIS ONE.

SO, UM, THIS IS JUST A FEW, A FEW TAKEAWAY OF THE, SOME TAKEAWAYS OF LIKE THE HIGH, THE HIGHEST, UH, CHALLENGES WHEN, UH, AND OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE, WE SAW.

UM, ONE IS THAT THE DEMAND, UH, CONTINUES TO EXCEED THE LEGAL SERVICE CAPACITY.

THERE'S ALSO A VERY LIMITED POOL OF QUALIFIED IMMIGRANT ATTORNEYS.

UM, AND THE COMPLEXITY OF CASES CONTRIBUTE TO STAFF BURNOUT, TURNOVER AND SERVICE DISRUPTIONS.

UM, PROVIDER TRANSITIONS AND STAFFING SHORTAGES HAVE IMPACTED SERVICE CON, UH, CONTINUITY AT TIMES, REDUCING THE NUMBER OF CONSULTATIONS AND NEW CASES THAT CAN BE ACCEPTED.

UM, THESE CHALLENGES HAVE HIGHLIGHTED THE IMPORTANCE OF DEDICATED CITY STAFFING AND COORDINATION TO SUPPORT ADMINISTRATION AND LONG-TERM STABILITY OF THE JUSTICE FUND.

UH, THE PROGRAM IS EXPLORING INNOVATIVE SERVICE DELIVERY MODELS, INCLUDING PRO SE LEGAL CLINICS AND LEGAL EMPOWERMENT APPROACHES TO EXPAND ACCESS DESPITE LIMITED ATTORNEY CAPACITY.

AND, UH, SUCCESS EXTENDS BEYOND CASE COUNTS.

THE PROGRAM IS INCREASINGLY CONSIDERING TIME ACCESS AND LEGAL LITERACY, INCLUDING WHETHER RESIDENTS GAINED REPRESENTATION, AVOIDED A DELAYED HARMFUL OUTCOME, AND BETTER UNDERSTAND THEIR RIGHTS AND OPTIONS.

UM, AND LASTLY, LOOKING AHEAD.

SO WHAT DO WE HAVE PLANNED FOR THE PROGRAM? UM, WE WANT TO STRENGTHEN PROGRAM EVALUATION, DATA COLLECTION AND IMPACT REPORTING TO BETTER DEMONSTRATE OUTCOMES, UH, EVALUATE COMMUNITY EXPERIENCES AND SUPPORT INFORMED DECISION MAKING.

WE ALSO WANT TO PURSUE SUSTAINABLE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES TO PRESERVE AND EXPAND IMMIGRATION LEGAL SERVICES AND SUPPORT THE JUSTICE FUND LONG-TERM SUSTAINABILITY.

UH, WE WANT, WE WANNA REMAIN RESPONSIVE TO THE CHALLENGES, UH, FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LANDSCAPE, UH, TO THE CHALLENGING AND THE CHANGING FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LANDSCAPE BY WORKING CLOSELY WITH LEGAL SERVICE PROVIDERS, COMMUNITY CONNECTORS AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO IDENTIFY AND ADDRESS EMERGING NEEDS AND MAINTAIN FLEXIBILITY, COMMUNITY CENTERED APPROACHES THAT PROTECT DUE PROCESS, PROMOTE FAMILY STABILITY, AND CONNECT RESIDENTS TO TRUSTED LEGAL SUPPORT.

UM, SO BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO QUESTIONS, I DO WANT TO INVITE, UM, A REPRESENTATIVE FROM BOTH AND FROM UCC WHO ARE OUR CURRENT, UM, COMMUNITY CONNECTORS TO ALSO COME UP AND PARTICIPATE AND SHARE SOME OF THEIR, THEIR HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE WORK.

UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, EQUITY AND HEALTH, UH, RELATIONS COMMISSION.

MY NAME IS DIEGO.

I AM THE RAPID RESPONSE ORGANIZER WITH OLE, UM, ORGANIZING ROOTED AND ABOLITION LIBERATION AND EMPOWERMENT.

UM, AND I'M THE PERSON WHO DOES THE REFERRALS ON OUR END, AS WELL AS WORKS WITH THE COMMUNITY CON, UH, WITH THE LEGAL SERVICE PROVIDERS.

UM, WITH THE LONG BEACH JUSTICE FUND.

AND TO SAY THE LONG BEACH JUSTICE FUND IS A HELPFUL RESOURCE WOULD BE AN UNDERSTATEMENT.

UM, IT REALLY SERVES AS A LIFELINE FOR FAMILIES WHO ARE LIVING THROUGH, UM, VERY TERRIBLE SITUATIONS AS A RESULT OF FEDERAL IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT.

UM, THE CURRENT STATE OF THE IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT IN THE CITY IS VERY SCARY.

UM, 'CAUSE THERE'S A VERY BIG LOOMING THREAT OF PEOPLE NOT WANTING TO GO OUT BECAUSE OF IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT.

I THINK THEY SEE A LOT OF VIDEOS ON SOCIAL MEDIA, UM, ESPECIALLY SEEING THAT THERE HAS BEEN CURRENTLY AN INCREASE IN ICE ACTIVITY IN THE LA BASIN, UM, WITH LONG BEACH SURROUNDING CITIES.

AND SOME OF THESE VERY PEOPLE HAVE ALSO SEEN THEIR NEIGHBORS BE TAKEN AND NOT COME BACK FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME OR IF EVER, UM, AS A RESULT OF IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT.

UM, AND SOMETHING THAT WE'RE SEEING AS WELL IS THAT PEOPLE ARE REACHING OUT TO ALL LA TO REQUEST ACCOMPANIMENT, UM, NOT ONLY TO GO TO THEIR IMMIGRATION COURT HEARINGS, BUT ALSO TO DO SIMPLE THINGS LIKE, UM, MAYBE PICK UP A REPORT FROM THE LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, GO TO THEIR HEALTH APPOINTMENT WITH THEM, UM, MAYBE GO TO THEIR CLAIMS COURT HERE, UM, AT THE COURTHOUSE, JUST DOWN THE STREET, UM, FROM WHERE WE ARE.

AND THE LONG BEACH JUSTICE FUND HAS HELPED SO MANY PEOPLE WITH THEIR IMMIGRATION CASES AND HAS EVEN RESULTED IN PEOPLE, UM, BEING RELEASED FROM THE, THE ADELANTO DETENTION CENTER.

UM, THIS PAST YEAR, UM, LAST YEAR, I WAS ABLE TO CONNECT THE HUSBAND AND FATHER, UM, WHO WAS DETAINED, UM, IN LONG BEACH.

AND HE WAS IN ADELANTO UP UNTIL MAY, UM, BECAUSE THE LONG BEACH JUSTICE FUND WAS ABLE TO PAY FOR HIS BOND, DO ALL THE PROPER PAPERWORK.

UM, AND HE WAS EVENTUALLY RELEASED AND IS NOW BACK, UM, WITH HIS FAMILY.

AND WHILE, UM, HE WAS IN DETENTION, UM, I CONNECTED, UH, I SPOKE TO THE WIFE IN REGARDS TO THE JUSTICE FUND.

UM, AND SHE WAS GOING THROUGH A VERY DARK TIME AS A RESULT OF TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH HER IMMIGRATION CASE, GOING TO EACH APPOINTMENT, SPEAKING TO OTHER LAWYERS.

SHE ACTUALLY ENDED UP LOSING HER JOB, UM, AND HAD

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TO START SELLING FOOD IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH LEGAL FEES AS WELL AS JUST, UM, COMMISSARY FOR HER HUSBAND WHO WAS IN DETENTION, UM, TO TRY TO LIKE STICK OUT THE HORRIBLE LEAVING CONDITIONS, UM, THAT HE WAS EXPERIENCING.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, UM, THEY STARTED FACING HOUSING INSECURITY AND FOOD INSECURITY, UM, AS A RESULT OF THE JOB LOSS.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, THIS ISN'T A UNIQUE STORY.

UM, IT'S VERY COMMON DUE TO THE CASES OF THE NATURE OF IMMIGRATION CASES.

THEY OFTEN TAKE MONTHS, UM, TO GO THROUGH LIKE A FILING OR TO EVEN STAND, UM, IN FRONT OF A, A JUDGE.

AND THE LONG BEACH JUSTICE FUND DOESN'T ONLY HELP WITH IMMIGRATION LEGAL ENFORCEMENTS, BUT BEING A FREE PROGRAM ALLEVIATES SOME PRESSURE OFF A FAMILY.

UH, SOMETHING I HEAR PRETTY OFTEN IS THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN PAYING THE LEGAL FEE FOR THEIR LAWYER OR MAYBE BUYING UNIFORMS FOR THEIR CHILDREN OR BUYING GROCERIES FOR THE WEEK, UM, OR EVEN FOR A FEW DAYS BECAUSE LEGAL FEES ARE SO, UM, HIGH.

AND THE JUSTICE FUND BEING FREE ALLEVIATES SOME OF THAT PRESSURE, UM, THAT WHERE THEY WOULD SPEND THAT MONEY ON LEGAL FEES, NOW THEY CAN MAYBE AFFORD TO BUY THAT UNIFORM FOR THEIR CHILD OR BE ABLE TO AFFORD FOOD, UM, FOR THE WEEK.

AND WE ANTICIPATE THAT, UM, THE IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT WILL INCREASE AS TIME PERMITS AS WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW.

UH, WE'RE IN A BIT OF A SURGE OF ACTIVITY, LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, UM, IN THE LA BASIN.

SO WE ANTICIPATE THE NEED BEING HIGHER, UM, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE AS OF NOW, UM, HAS REFERRED OVER A HUNDRED PEOPLE, UM, THROUGH WORD OF MOUTH.

UM, OFTEN I HEAR THAT PEOPLE HEARD ABOUT THE JUSTICE FUND THROUGH A FAMILY OR THROUGH A FRIEND.

UM, AND NOT EVERYONE MIGHT HAVE THAT CONNECTION.

SO THERE ARE MAY BE PEOPLE THAT WE MISSED WHO COULD USE THE LEGAL HELP, UM, IN THE CITY.

SO WE WANNA BE ABLE TO HAVE THE PROGRAM BE FUNDED FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE TO PROVIDE AS MANY, UM, SERVICES AS POSSIBLE.

SO I URGE THE COMMISSION, UH, TO DRAFT A LETTER, UM, ASKING COUNCIL TO PLEASE CONSIDER ADDING MORE FUNDING TO THE LONG BEACH JUSTICE FUND, UM, AS FUNDING BECOMES AVAILABLE, AND TO PRIORITIZE ALLOCATING MORE FUNDING AT THE MIDYEAR REVIEW.

UM, SHOULD ANY SURPLUS FUNDING BECOME AVAILABLE, UM, PLEASE CONSIDER GIVING THEM TO THE JUSTICE FUND.

UH, THE LONG BEACH JUSTICE FUND HAS BEEN A CRITICAL RESOURCE, UM, FOR THE LONG BEACH COMMUNITY, AND WE ARE SEEING AN INCREASE IN ICE ACTIVITY.

UM, OUR COMMUNITY CONTINUES TO NEED THE LONG BEACH JUSTICE FUND, UM, SERVICES, UM, AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO HELP AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE.

THE THIS, THIS WORK IS, AS YOU ALL HAVE SEEN IN THE NEWS AS WELL, IT'S VERY HEAVY AND TIRING.

UM, GOOD, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

UH, SO REALLY NICE TO BE HERE WITH YOU ALL TONIGHT.

UH, JUST WANNA GIVE YOU THE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE FROM THE CAMBODIAN COMMUNITY.

UH, MY NAME IS ION CYPRESS SOTH.

I'M THE PROGRAM DIRECTOR THERE.

UM, BEEN WORKING WITH, WITH ONE MAIN STAFF, UH, HAS, HAS BEEN ON THE GROUND WORKING WITH OUR COMMUNITY CLIENTS, UH, OF IMMIGRANT.

UH, SO UCC HAS BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, IMMIGRANTS EVER SINCE WE WERE FOUNDED IN, IN 1977.

UH, WHICH, YOU KNOW, HELPS SETTLES THE COMMUNITY OF CAMBODIA REFUGEES, UH, AT THAT TIME TO GET ACCLIMATED TO THE CULTURE HERE AND TO THE LIFESTYLE HERE.

UH, PART PART OF WHAT HAPPENED WITH OUR, OUR COMMUNITY AT THAT TIME WAS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, UH, I, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, ACCLIMATING TO THIS, THIS LIFE AND TO THIS COMMUNITY HERE.

SO MAYBE SOME OF YOU HAVE SEEN IN THE NEWS, YOU KNOW, THAT HOW THIS ADMINISTRATION OR THIS NEWS MEDIA MAYBE HAVE, UH, CHOSEN TO SELECT DIFFERENT LANGUAGES TO TALK ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAD COMMITTED CRIMES AND, UH, THE IN THE PAST.

BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, MANY OF 'EM HAVE DONE THEIR TIME AND THEN NOW THEY HAVE BEEN SITTING IN JAILS FOR ALL THESE YEARS.

BUT THEN NOW AFTER ALL THOSE YEARS OF BEING IN JAIL AND SERVING THEIR TIME, THEY GET DEPORTED 25 YEARS, YOU KNOW, AFTER COMING OUT AND ESTABLISHING THEIR FAMILY AND A JOB AND EVERYTHING.

SO, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S SOME OF THE EXTREME CASES OUT THERE.

UH, AND ALSO IF THEY HAVE TO DO CHECK-INS WITH THEIR GREEN CARD, UM, AND THAT'S, THIS IS PART OF THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE TO OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF, OF, UH, PERCEPTIONS OR LACK OF EDUCATION THAT THEY HAD THOUGHT BECAUSE THEY WERE A PERMANENT RESIDENT, THAT THEY NEVER BECAME, UH, NATURALIZED CITIZENS.

WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT THEM THAT WAY.

BUT MANY OF 'EM REFUSE TO GO CHECK IN THE ICE, UH, OFFICES NOW BECAUSE OF THAT FEAR.

UM, SO THE, I'M, I'M REALLY HAPPY FOR THE LONG BEACH JUSTICE FUND FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

WE CONTINUE TO EDUCATE THEM AND SUPPORT THEM IN ANY WAY WE CAN.

UM, ONE OF OUR CLIENT DID GET, UH, PICKED UP AND, UH, WAS HOUSED IN TEXAS.

I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE CLIENT, UH, MESSAGE UP THERE THAT HER HUSBAND FINALLY GOT RELEASED BACK TO COME BACK TO CALIFORNIA WITH HER.

UM, AND OUR OFFICE IS REALLY HAPPY THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE SUCCESS STORIES.

UM,

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UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE GET UP EVERY DAY TO DO THIS AND TO SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY, EVEN THOUGH IT FEELS LIKE AN UPHILL BATTLE.

BUT, UM, I'M JUST CONTINUING TO, TO WORK.

UH, AND WE KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS.

I JUST WANT TO ASK THE COMMISSION TO, UH, PLEASE, UH, CONTINUE TO, I KNOW THE, UH, 1 MILLION HAS BEEN ALREADY SUPPORTED WITH THE LONG BEACH JUSTICE FUND.

WE'RE TRYING TO ASK YOU ALL TO WRITE A LETTER TO MAYOR RICH REX RICHARDSON AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO ASK FOR, UH, ANY, ANY OTHER AMOUNT UP TO 3 MILLION WOULD HELP AND SUPPORT.

AND I KNOW THE CITY IS GOING THROUGH ALL THIS DEFICIT ISSUE.

UM, BUT PLEASED, YOU KNOW, OUR COMMUNITY IS, IS WHAT'S HAPPENING.

I, I'LL TELL YOU ONE THING, THOUGH, THE OTHER DAY, UM, I, I SAW A HOMELESS MAN, A WHITE HOMELESS MAN, OKAY? AND THERE'S SO MANY OF 'EM.

AND, AND, AND WHEN I SEE THOSE FOLKS AND, AND THEY'RE EVERYWHERE THROUGHOUT LONG BEACH, UH, AS USED, PROBABLY SEEN, I, I CAN AFFORD MY RENT, I CAN AFFORD MY FOOD.

I GAVE HIM $10.

IN MY MIND, I'M THINKING, YOU KNOW, LIKE ALL THESE NEGATIVE THINGS THAT I'M HEARING FROM WHAT OTHER PEOPLE IN THE NEWS HAVE SAID, RIGHT? BUT I GAVE THAT MAN $10, $10, NOTHING, RIGHT? BUT TO HIM.

AND HE WAS JUST SO HAPPY.

AND HE WAS RIGHT THERE ON PCH AND SECOND STREET, AND HE WAS LIKE, THAT COULD JUST GET HIM LIKE, UH, IN, IN AND OUT BURGER .

AND, UH, SO IT'S JUST THE, THE KINDNESS AND, AND THE THING THAT WE COULD DO FOR EACH OTHER.

ANYWAY, THANK YOU.

UH, THANK YOU BOTH.

AND, UH, WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD THEM IN AS PART OF THE AGENDA ITEM INSTEAD OF AS PUBLIC COMMENTERS.

'CAUSE WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY ENGAGE IN DIALOGUE WITH THEM.

AND SO COMMISSIONERS, WE NOW HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BOTH ASK QUESTIONS OF TONY AND THE INCREDIBLE WORK THAT TONY'S DONE.

UM, AND ALSO OF BOTH OF OUR GUESTS AS COMMUNITY CONNECTORS.

I THINK THIS GIVES US MORE OF A WELL-ROUNDED VIEW OF HOW COMMUNITY ACTUALLY EXPERIENCES THIS PROGRAM TO HAVE BOTH.

UM, BEFORE WE OPEN UP TO COMMISSIONER DIALOGUE, I DO JUST WANNA CELEBRATE THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT TONY DERMAN HAS DONE ON THIS PROGRAM.

UH, ONE PERSON, UH, FOR MUCH OF THIS, RIGHT? UM, REALLY HOLDING UP, UM, OVER YEARS, A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR PROGRAM THAT HAS, AS WE'VE HEARD, KEPT FAMILIES TOGETHER, UH, AND BROUGHT FAMILIES BACK TOGETHER.

UM, HOW MANY PEOPLE GET TO WORK ON SOMETHING EVERY DAY WHERE THEY CAN REUNITE, NOT DIVIDE? UH, AND THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL THING, AND TONY'S BEEN A PART OF THAT, UM, BEHIND THE SCENES.

AND SO REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CELEBRATING THE PERSON WHO'S ASSIGNED TO HELP US AND ALSO HELPS THIS PROGRAM, UH, AND IS SO INSTRUMENTAL TO THE EQUITY WORK HERE IN THE CITY.

SO REALLY WANT US TO, TO RECOGNIZE ALL OF THE LABOR THAT'S GONE INTO THIS REPORT AND TO THE WORK, UM, AND HOW TONY'S BEEN INSTRUMENTAL TO ALL OF IT.

SO, BIG APPRECIATION TO TONY.

UM, BUT YEAH, COMMISSIONERS, UM, OPPORTUNITY TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS, CLARIFICATIONS, UH, TO OUR SPEAKERS OR TO OUR STAFFER.

DO WE JUST JUMP IN OR YOU CAN NAME, YOU CAN QUEUE UP.

UM, I'M TRYING TO GET THIS TO, I'M NOT AS QUICK TODAY WITH MY, UH, TOGGLING HERE.

APOLOGIES.

GOOD.

YEAH, FOLKS CAN QUEUE UP.

UM, COMMISSIONER LARA OVERDUE.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

UM, I'M GONNA ECHO YOUR GRATITUDE TOWARDS TONY AND ANY OTHER STAFF, UM, IN ITS PERIPHERY THAT I'M SURE HAS ALSO HELPED AND SUPPORTED ON.

ITS, AND ALSO COMMUNITY MEMBERS, UM, TO ADVANCE THIS CRITICAL WORK, ESPECIALLY IN THIS, UH, IN THIS CLIMATE OF, UH, UNFORTUNATE IMMIGRANT HYSTERIA THAT HAS UNFORTUNATELY ALWAYS BEEN THERE, BUT HAS JUST BEEN ESCALATING AND ELEVATING TO A LEVEL ALL THAT I HAVEN'T SEEN NECESSARILY IN MY LIFETIME.

BUT THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER MOMENTS THROUGHOUT HISTORY.

UM, I HAVE A MYRIAD OF QUESTIONS HERE, UM, UNDER KIND OF HELP IT SOUND SOME, SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS MIGHT ACTUALLY GO TO A CITY ATTORNEY.

AND I THINK ABOUT IT.

ONE QUESTION.

UM, BECAUSE OF THE COMPLEXITY I'D IMAGINE OF SETTING FUNDS ASIDE FOR THIS GOOD WORK, IS THERE, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO, OF COURSE, CONTINUE THIS WORK, BUT WITHIN THAT FRAMEWORK ALSO RAISE FUNDS, UH, PRIVATE FUNDS TO GO INTO THAT SAME FUND? OR ARE THERE LIMITATIONS FOR THAT? AND I ASK THAT BECAUSE THERE MIGHT BE SOME CREATIVE WAYS TO CONTINUE WHAT WE'RE DOING AS WE SHOULD, BUT ELEVATE THOSE FUND NUMBERS THROUGH POTENTIAL, UH, DONORS INTO THAT FUND.

AND I'M, I'M COMING FROM THE NONPROFIT WORLD.

I ALSO KNOW THAT THE NONPROFIT WORLD DOESN'T WORK THE SAME AS THE GOVERNMENT WORLD, BUT THAT QUESTION NONETHELESS COULD HELP US MM-HMM .

IN CRAFTING A LETTER AND FIGURING OUT HOW DO WE INCREASE, UH, FUNDS IN THAT WORK.

SO THAT'S ONE QUESTION.

I'LL GO BACK TO MY OTHER QUESTION.

SECOND, I THINK I'LL LET THAT QUESTION FOR NOW SIT SO WE GET SOME CLARITY ON THAT.

COMMISSIONER AARA, THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

UH, AGAIN, IS THE, WHETHER PRIVATE FUNDS

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CAN BE ADDED INTO THE FUND, CORRECT? CORRECT.

THAT IS SOMETHING I'M, I'M ACTUALLY NOT SURE, AND I, I WANT MAKE SURE TO GIVE THE A, A CORRECT, UH, RESPONSE TO THE COMMISSION.

SO LET ME LOOK INTO THAT AND, AND, AND I CAN GET AN, UH, AN ANSWER, UH, TO THE COMMISSION THROUGH TONY.

I BELIEVE THAT'S THE AMOUNT.

UM, MY OTHER QUESTION, UM, BEFORE I ASK IT, I RECOGNIZE THAT SUCCESS OF CASES IS COMPLICATED.

EVERY CASE IS DIFFERENT.

UM, AND IN THIS CURRENT FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION, I AM AWARE OF THE SUCCESS BEING VERY LOW.

UM, AND I HAVE A NUMBER THAT I'LL SHARE MAYBE IN A BIT, BUT I'M CURIOUS WITH THE ONE WAY TO MEASURE SUCCESS IS OBVIOUSLY THE NUMBER OF DATA THAT YOU PROVIDED HERE, WHICH IS EXTENSIVE.

DO WE HAVE A SUCCESS NUMBER IN TERMS OF, OF THOSE CASES OUTTA CURIOSITY? DO YOU MIND CLARIFYING YOUR QUESTION WHEN YOU MEAN, SO, ABSOLUTELY.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, YOU HAVE, UM, LEMME GO BACK TO SOME, I'LL JUST, I'LL JUST CHERRY PICK ONE HERE.

YOU HAVE 164 CASES ACCEPTED.

HOW MANY OF PERCENTAGE WISE, HOW MANY OF THOSE CASES ACTUALLY, UH, RESULTED IN A POSITIVE EFFECT, UH, OR RESULT FOR, UH, THE, THE CLIENTS BEING SERVED? GR GREAT QUESTION.

SO AGAIN, WE, WE MEASURE THE SUCCESS OF THE PROGRAM IN, IN, IN VERY MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.

ALSO, IMMIGRATION LIES INCREDIBLY COMPLEX, INCREDIBLY LENGTHY, AND TIME CONSUMING.

SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE NUMBER OF CONSULTATIONS OR THE NUMBER OF CASES ACCEPTED, UM, SOMETIMES THE CASES ARE STILL OPEN.

SO THE CONTRACTS WE HAVE WITH THE LEGAL SERVICE PROVIDERS, UH, THERE'S AN EXPECTATION THAT THEY WILL CONTINUE PROVIDING SERVICES FOR THE INDIVIDUAL ONCE THEY'VE BEEN ACCEPTED INTO THE PROGRAM.

AND THEY'RE BEING REPRESENTED BY THEM AND THROUGH THEM.

SO, UM, WE, WE TRY TO MEASURE SUCCESS BASED ON WHAT THEY REPORT TO US, MEANING THE, THE NUMBER OF ACCEPTED CASES, THE NUMBER OF, OF, UH, UM, UH, FOR WORK PERMITS OR, UM, APPLICATION FOR, FOR RELIEF ACCEPTED.

UM, WE ALSO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, FIND OUT A LITTLE MORE ABOUT HOW MANY FAMILIES WERE KEPT TOGETHER BECAUSE SOMETIMES THE, THE SUCCESS OF THE PROGRAM MEANS THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, WE HAD A FAMILY THAT GOT TO SPEND ANOTHER YEAR TOGETHER, ANOTHER BIRTHDAY TOGETHER.

UM, AND WE COUNT THAT AS SUCCESSES AS WELL.

SO, UM, TO DIRECTLY ANSWER YOUR, YOUR, YOUR QUESTION, WE, WE, THE IMPACT REPORT SOLELY FOCUSES ON THE DATA THAT WE'VE BEEN COLLECTING DIRECTLY FROM THE LEGAL SERVICE PROVIDERS.

UM, BUT WE DO KNOW THAT THE SUCCESS OF THE PROGRAM IS INCREDIBLY VARYING AND VAST AND FULL OF STORIES.

THAT'S WHY WE INCLUDED THE IMPACT STORIES AS WELL, UM, AS AN ADDITIONAL WAY TO CARRY SOME WEIGHT INTO THE IMPACT AND SUCCESS OF THE PROGRAM.

BUT TO DIRECTLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, UM, WE WANT TO MAKE IT A GOAL TO CONTINUE COLLECTING MORE DATA SO THAT WE'RE MEASURING SUCCESSES MM-HMM .

UM, IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS FOR FUTURE REPORTING.

WHAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL, BUT I REALLY WOULD RELY ON COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND ORGANIZATIONS TO INFORM THIS, UM, IF IT DOESN'T EXIST, IS WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE JUSTICE FUND, UH, BENCHMARKS AND GOALS THAT OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS INFORM US AS A CITY, UH, TO MARK OUT AS WE, WE MOVE THIS WORK FORWARD.

'CAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, IS UNFORTUNATELY, DESPERATELY NEEDED IN THIS TIME.

AND, AND, AND TO CREATE THOSE, THOSE GOALS AND BENCHMARKS CAN HELP WITH THE SUCCESS AND SUSTAINABILITY OF THE PROGRAM, RIGHT? AS, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, AND HOPEFULLY THERE WILL COME A DAY WHEN MY PERSONAL GOAL IS THAT A FUND LIKE THIS ISN'T NEEDED BECAUSE THE CLIMATE ISN'T THERE.

UNFORTUNATELY, THAT IS A REALITY THAT ISN'T HERE RIGHT NOW.

NOW WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM COMMISSIONER DOCKERY.

I THINK MY QUESTION WAS ANSWERED.

I, MY QUESTION WAS, CAN PRIVATE FUNDS OR MAYBE OTHER CITY ENTITIES THAT HAVE A LOT OF MONEY CAN ADD TO THIS FUND? SO TO DIVE A LITTLE, A LITTLE DEEPER INTO THE, THE FUNDING OF THE PROGRAM, THE, THE PROGRAM IS FUNDED THROUGH STRUCTURAL FUNDS AND THEN THROUGH ADDITIONAL ONE-TIME FUNDING THAT WE RECEIVE EACH YEAR THROUGH THE, THE BUDGET PROCESS.

UM, WE HAVE TALKED INTERNALLY ABOUT, UH, IDENTIFYING GRANTS THAT WE COULD APPLY FOR, UM, AS A CITY ENTITY, UM, TO SUPPORT THIS PROGRAM.

AND I THINK FOR CONTEXT FOR FOLKS, I KNOW THAT, UM, AS WE TALK ABOUT BUDGET, IT'S HELPFUL TO CONNECT TO WHAT THE LINE ITEMS HAVE BEEN.

I THINK HISTORICALLY IT WAS 1.8 OR SO MILLION, ROUGHLY SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

ONCE WE GET TO 2 MILLION IS HOW MUCH IT'S HAD IN THE PAST.

AND I THINK IT WAS DOWN TO 1 MILLION, UM, IN THIS CURRENT BUDGET CYCLE.

I, I MIGHT BE OFF BY A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT'S BEEN THE FACTOR OF SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DIFFERENCE FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR COMPARED TO, UH, PREVIOUS YEARS IS, IS HOW MUCH HAS BEEN ALLOCATED.

SOMEONE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG THERE, BUT

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SO THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITIES.

ANY, ANY FOLKS OTHER QUESTIONS IN PARTICULAR? WE HAVE OUR COMMUNITY CONNECTORS HERE AND WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE ARE HARNESSING THEIR EXPERTISE AS WELL, UM, AS WE KIND OF PAINT A PICTURE OF THIS PROGRAM.

VICE SCHULTZ, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATIONS.

UH, UH, APPRECIATE YOU, UH, BEING HERE.

UM, YOU, YOU ASK ABOUT CAN, UH, CAN, CAN SOMEONE, UH, UH, CONTRIBUTE? UM, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING YOU CAN'T MAKE A DONATE CITY.

A CITY CAN'T TAKE DONATIONS, BUT PERHAPS, AND THEN I'LL, I'LL, UH, I SEE OUR ARE WONDERFUL, YOU'RE ON THE SAME TRACK AS ME.

SO HI, THERESA CHANDLER, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.

UM, WE DO HAVE SOME FUNDS, UH, DONATION OPTIONS, UM, BUT WE'D HAVE TO SET IT UP SPECIFICALLY.

FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE THE MAYOR'S FUND, UM, WHERE HISTORICALLY PEOPLE HAVE DONATED TO OUR HOMELESS SERVICES AND DIFFERENT THINGS OF THAT SORT.

UM, SO WE CAN POTENTIALLY SET SOMETHING UP LIKE THAT.

IF THE COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT INTERNALLY, BUT THERE ARE SOME POTENTIAL OPTIONS IF THERE'S DONATIONS THAT WANNA COME THROUGH.

YEAH, LIKE IF YOU WANNA DONATE TO PARKS, YES, YOU HAVE PARTNERS OF PARKS, WHICH IS A, A A, IT'S, IT'S NOT A CITY ENTITY THOUGH.

IT WORKS CLOSELY WITH A CITY.

IF YOU WANT TO DONATE A PLAYGROUND, YOU KNOW, PARTNERS WITH PARCEL WILL TAKE YOUR MONEY AND WORK WITH THE CITY TO, TO, TO HAVE THAT HAPPEN.

UH, BUT IT'S NOT CITY DIRECTED FUNDS.

UM, YEAH, THE LONG BEACH COMMUNITY FOUNDATION ACTUALLY MANAGES THE MAYOR'S FUND.

AND SO, LIKE I MENTIONED, IT WAS HISTORICALLY SPECIFICALLY FOR OUR HOMELESS SERVICES, BUT IT HAS EXPANDED SINCE THEN.

WELL, WELL, I SEE THAT, THAT, UH, UH, UH, THE JUSTICE FUND HAS EXPANDED SINCE ITS ITS ORIGINAL MISSION OF OF, OF JUST REPRESENTING THE PEOPLE.

THEY CAN PERHAPS IT CAN, UH, IT COULD BRANCH OUT AND HAVE A, UH, AN MOU OR A FISCAL SPONSOR, UH, UH, THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION OR SOMETHING, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

MY QUESTION IS, UH, IS FOR STAFF, UM, UH, BUDGET, I, I'M SEEING, UH, FISCAL YEAR 2024, UH, 17, 1.7 MILLION.

UH, BUT THERE WAS A CARRYOVER OF, UH, 950,000.

I, I KNOW, UH, UH, UH, IDEALLY THE, UH, UH, OUR SPEAKERS ARE ASKING FOR, UH, 3 MILLION.

UM, UH, DO WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO, TO, TO SPEND THAT IF WE, IF WE COULD COME UP WITH THAT.

'CAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN US SPEND MORE THAN $600,000 UNDER A BUDGET.

UH, UH, THE QUESTION'S IN TWO PARTS.

UH, WHEN THERE'S AN EX ENDING CARRYOVER, DOES THAT GO INTO THE NEXT, THE NEXT BUDGET? SO THE, THE 1.7 OF, UH, FISCAL YEAR 25, UM, THAT'S IN, THAT'S INCLUDED IN THERE.

SO YOU'RE NOT ACTUALLY SPENDING, YOU KNOW, PUTTING ASIDE $1.7 MILLION.

SO, SO THE REASON FOR CARRYOVER FUNDS WITH THE JUSTICE FUND IS BECAUSE THE CONTRACTS DON'T ALIGN WITH THE CITY'S FISCAL YEAR.

SO WE'VE ALWAYS FACED THE CHALLENGE OF HAVING MONEY CARRY OVER.

UM, AS I MENTIONED IN THE PRESENTATION, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THE FUNDS ARE UNUSED OR UNSPENT.

IT MEANS THAT THOSE FUNDS ARE COMMITTED TO AND WILL BE SPENT IN ANOTHER FISCAL YEAR.

IT'S, IT'S STILL A, A, A CONSIDERABLE NUMBER BETWEEN A AVAILABLE, UH, AND EXPENDITURES.

WHETHER IT DOESN'T ALIGN, UH, UH, BY, UM, BY THE, THE MONTH A, A A $950,000 CARRYOVER IS, IS IT, AND I, I KNOW THE RESOURCES THERE JUST AREN'T, YOU KNOW, ENOUGH LAWYERS TO, TO COVER TO, TO, TO, TO TAKE ALL THE MONEY.

IF, IF WE DID INCREASE THIS, IF THE CITY WERE ABLE TO INCREASE THIS FROM ONE POINT WHATEVER TO 3 MILLION, WOULD IT, WOULD WE HAVE THE RESOURCES TO, TO ACCEPT THAT, THAT MONEY, THOSE PAYMENTS, THOSE, AND WHAT WOULD IT BE? WHAT WOULD IT BE SPENT ON THAT? IF FUNDING FOR THE BUDGET FOR THE JUSTICE FUND WERE TO INCREASE, THEN THE CITY WOULD GO THROUGH A FORMAL PROCUREMENT PROCESS TO IDENTIFY LEGAL SERVICE PROVIDERS WHO CAN PROVIDE THESE SERVICES.

AND THEN AT THAT POINT, WE WOULD DEVELOP SCOPE OF WORKS WITH EACH INDIVIDUAL PROVIDER, UM, SO THAT THEY CAN DELIVER SERVICES BASED ON THE FUNDING THAT WE WERE GIVEN THAT YEAR.

I, I JUST, I JUST SEE A, A LOT OF CARRYOVER IS, SO THE $957,000, UH, UH, UH, CARRYOVER FROM 25 TO 26, WAS, WAS THAT SPENT, WAS THAT EVENTUALLY ALLOTTED OR DID THAT JUST THAT, SO THAT, AGAIN, CARRYOVER MONEY DOESN'T NECESSARILY

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MEAN UNSPENT MONEY.

IT MEANS MONEY THAT'S BEEN COMMITTED TO, FOR SERVICES WITH EXISTING CONTRACTS.

SO THOSE $900,000 THAT CARRIED OVER WERE SPOKEN FOR AND CONTRACTED SERVICES, BUT IT JUST MEANS THAT THE CONTRACTS DIDN'T ALIGN WITH THE FISCAL YEAR.

SO WHEN THE FISCAL YEAR ENDED IN SEPTEMBER 30TH, UM, WE HAD THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY LEFT OVER IN, IN, UH, IN CONTRACTS.

UH, COMMISSIONER, DO YOU HAVE A RESPON DIRECT RESPONSE TO THAT? I DID.

I THINK JUST FOR THE PUBLIC'S SAKE, UM, MY TAKEAWAY FROM THIS ROBUST DISCUSSION IS, UH, CLARITY IS THAT THE NEED IS DEFINITELY THERE, RIGHT? AND DEFINITELY COULD USE SOME MORE FUNDING.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHEN IT SHOWS UP IN THE BOOKS, BECAUSE THE MONEY HAD NOT BEEN, UH, ACTUALLY SPENT YET, BUT THE CONTRACTS WERE THERE.

SO THAT'S ALL THAT, ALL, ALL THAT'S THE TAKEAWAY.

SO THE NEED IS DEFINITELY THERE.

I JUST WANNA UNDERSCORE THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER SAMWELL.

GOOD EVENING.

SO DURING THE, UM, PRESENTATION, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.

UM, I, I HEARD SOME, SOME BARRIERS TO BEFORE, UM, TO THE COMMUNITY OF TRYING TO ACCESS THESE TYPES OF SERVICES.

ONE WAS BEING, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN OTHER PLANNING BODIES, WE'VE NOTICED THAT THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS OR FAMILIES WHO ARE NOT SEEKING HELP, UM, BECAUSE OF FEAR DUE TO THE, UM, CURRENT ADMINISTRATION.

I'M WONDERING, WOULD THESE FUNDS, OR, YOU KNOW, WOULD THE REPRESENTATIVES HERE, UM, FROM THESE ORGANIZATIONS, IF YOU WERE ALLOTTED OR ALLOCATED ADDITIONAL FUNDING, WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE THE MEASURE? HOW ARE WE GOING TO, UM, ENSURE THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS, UH, YOU KNOW, TRUSTS THE ADMINISTRATION IN WHICH THEY ARE TRYING TO HELP THEM? SO THEY SEEK THESE SERVICES? AND YOU'RE BOTH WELCOME TO COME TO THE PODIUM IF YOU'D LIKE.

HI.

UM, UH, SORRY.

YEAH, TO ANSWER YOUR YOUR QUESTION, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER JOHN.

SO THE, UH, I THINK THE FIRST CONTRACT, TONY, IT WAS BECAUSE WE WERE, WE HAD THAT ISSUE WITH THAT, UH, A LAWYER, UH, GROUP, WHICH THEY DID NOT PROCESS A LOT OF OUR CLIENTS THAT WAS WAITING.

SO IT WAS, UM, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? YOU KNOW, THEY WERE WAITING TO GET SERVICES AND BECAUSE OF THE, THE, THE CONTRACT THAT WAS WAITING FOR THEM TO GET PROCESSED.

AND THEN CURRENTLY, THAT'S WHY SOME, UM, THAT'S WHY PART OF THE FUNDING WAS LEFT OVER.

AND THEN ALSO NOW WE JUST GOT THE PUBLIC COUNCIL AND ESPERANZA THE NEW, UM, UH, LAWYER, UH, TWO LAWYERS, UH, GROUP THAT HAVE COME IN, AND THEN THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING INTAKE.

SO IT'S A WHOLE NEW GROUP TO START PROCESSING A COUPLE HUNDRED CLIENTS IN THERE.

AND SO, SO THEY'RE FORMING A CLIENT INTAKE FORM, AND THAT'S NOT EVEN DONE YET.

, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE PROCESSES BEEN SO SLOW, UH, AND YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE IN IMMIGRATION NEED AND FAMILIES, UH, NEEDING HELP, YOU ARE GONNA START LOSING FAITH IN THE SYSTEM AND THEN MAYBE NOT EVEN SEEK HELP AND JUST KIND OF GO AWOL, RIGHT? BUT WE'RE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND MEMBERS TO, TO BE ABLE TO STAY WITH US AND TO ASK FOR THESE, THESE HELP AND SUPPORT.

BUT I THINK THAT I, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF THAT WAS, UH, THE ONLY THING THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE FUNDING WAS LEFT OVER AND CARRIED OVER, THAT WAS DEFINITELY ONE OF THEM.

INCREASE IT TO 3 MILLION, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, THEN FUNDING CAN THEN BE SPENT DOWN.

SO IT, IT IS, AND SORRY, I THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME OF THAT.

IN, IN 2024, WE HAD A LEGAL SERVICE PROVIDER WHO, UM, WAS UNABLE TO COMPLETE THEIR REQUIRED, UM, UH, SCOPE OF WORK.

UM, SO THEN THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY WE ALSO WENT INTO EXCEPTIONS TO POLICY WITH ESP, ESPAN AND WEST AND WESTERN STATE TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT NEED DURING THAT TIME.

AND THEN, UH, UH, A COMMISSIONER, UM, UH, UH, UH, AND NOLAN, UM, THAT'S WHY FOR US IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO PARTNER WITH COMMUNITY CONNECTORS, UM, SO THAT THE COMMUNITY TRUSTS, UM, IS, IS DIRECTLY LINKED TO THE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS.

UM, AND THEY'RE MAKING THE WARM HANDOFFS TO THE LEGAL SERVICE PROVIDERS, UM, AT, AT AS A WAY TO, TO SUPPORT COMMUNITY TRUST.

COMPLETELY.

I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAID.

IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.

UH, IT'S VERY CHALLENGING TIMES AND COMMUNITY TRUST IS, IS IS SOMETHING WE'RE TRYING TO NAVIGATE.

AND, AND WE, WE HOPE THAT WE DO THAT THROUGHOUT COMMUNITY CONNECTORS.

AND, AND JUST ONE, ONE MORE THING.

SO WITH, WITH THESE PUBLIC COUNSEL, ZA, THAT'S COME ON NOW.

UH, COME ON BOARD, THEY ARE, THEY, THEY HIRE, UH, DIFFERENT LAWYERS WITHIN THEIR OFFICE TO DO PROOF PROCESS THESE WORK.

SO HOPEFULLY AS WE CONTINUE, WE'VE JUST BEEN MEETING WITH THE, THE LEGAL SERVICE PROVIDER.

SO HOPEFULLY NOW THERE'S KIND OF LIKE A STREAMLINE TO GO THROUGH GOING FORWARD TO BE ABLE, IF WE CAN

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SO IT JUST TOOK A LONG TIME TO KIND OF GET TO WHERE WE'RE AT.

AND EVEN AS A COMMUNITY CONNECTOR WORKER, IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING.

YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? YES, PLEASE.

SORRY.

UM, ALSO AN ADDITIONAL COMMENT ON LIKE THE, THE ROLLOVER FUNDING, I BELIEVE AS A COMMUNITY CONNECTOR, THERE WAS ALSO A PERIOD FROM 2025 INTO EARLY 2026, AND WE WERE FINALIZING THE CONTRACT WITH PUBLIC COUNCIL AND ESPERANZA, UM, WHERE FOLKS WERE ONLY ABLE TO, THE LEGAL SERVICE PROVIDERS WERE ONLY ABLE TO TAKE CASES FOR PEOPLE WHO WERE DETAINED.

SO NOT ANY OF THE OTHER ADDITIONAL SERVICES.

SO THAT'S WHY FOR THAT TIME PERIOD WHILE THE CITY WAS NEGOTIATING CONTRACTS GOING BACK AND FORTH, UM, ONLY DETAINED CASES WERE BEING SEEN AND NOT ALL OF THE CASES FOR ALL THE OTHER DIFFERENT SERVICES, UM, THAT THE JUSTICE FUND PROVIDED.

UM, BUT SINCE THEN, WITH THE FUNDING BECOMING MORE AVAILABLE, UM, PUBLIC COUNCIL AND ESPERANZA HAVE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB ABOUT GOING THROUGH THE BACKLOG AND SEEING LIKE FROM DECEMBER UNTIL LIKE MARCH OR MAY OR WHENEVER IT WAS THAT THE CONTRACT WAS FINALIZED, UM, MAKING SURE THAT THOSE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN REACHED BACK OUT TO AND CONNECTED TO A SERVICE AS WELL.

UM, SO THOSE FUNDS WILL BE SPENT AT SOME POINT.

IT'S JUST THE CASES TAKE A LONG TIME.

UM, AND THEN ALSO IN REGARDS, UM, TO YOUR QUESTION, COMMISSIONER ABOUT, UH, COMMUNITY TRUST.

I THINK SOMETHING THAT I'VE SEEN THROUGH THE PROGRAM IS PEOPLE WILL OFTEN COME LOOKING FOR LIKE THE REMOVAL DEFENSE.

UM, AND THEN OFTENTIMES WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING IS THEY'LL SAY LIKE, OH, I'M NOT IN REMOVAL PROCEEDINGS, BUT I WOULD WANT INFORMATION ON MY CASE 'CAUSE I'VE BEEN, UM, LIVING IN LONG BEACH FOR LIKE X AMOUNT OF YEARS OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE.

UM, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE WAYS, UM, THAT WE GET ALL THE DIFFERENT COMMUNITY MEMBERS, UM, WHO MIGHT BE SCARED TO LIKE, REACH OUT TO US, UM, IS THROUGH LIKE KIND OF LIKE COLLATERAL.

LIKE WE'LL TALK TO THEM FOR ONE REASON AND THEN ANOTHER REASON COME UP.

UM, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE I'VE DONE A REFERRAL WHERE I CALLED ABOUT A HUSBAND AND THEN I ENDED UP REFERRING THE MOTHER AND THEN THREE DIFFERENT DAUGHTERS AS WELL.

UM, SO THAT ENDS UP HAPPENING, UM, AS WELL AS PEOPLE SOMETIMES LIKE, WHICH IS HERE IN GENERAL, THAT WE'RE HELPING SUPPORT WITH LAWYERS AND THEN CALL AND SAY LIKE, I, I AM NOT A REMOVAL DEF DEFENSE, UH, IN REMOVAL PROCEEDINGS, BUT I WANNA TRY TO GET A WORK PERMIT, OR, HEY, I HAVE THIS POLICE REPORT, I WANNA TRY TO FILE FOR A U VISA, FOR EXAMPLE.

UM, SO I THINK THE PROGRAM ITSELF IS HELPING BUILD SOME OF THAT COMMUNITY TRUST BACK.

UM, BUT IT'S LARGELY BEEN THROUGH WORD OF MOUTH.

SORRY, MY APOLOGIES.

I'M GETTING OVER BEING SICK.

SORRY.

UH, COMMISSIONER DOCKER, DO YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP? YEAH, I, UM, REALLY APPRECIATE TONY, WHAT YOU'VE PUT TOGETHER.

I USED TO BE ON THE FAIR HOUSING FOUNDATION BOARD AND WE WERE DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE 20 YEARS AGO, NOT TO THE EXTENT THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH IT NOW, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE'VE RECEIVED.

UM, I WANNA GO BACK TO OUR, AND, AND MAYBE IT'S NOT, AND WE ARE NOT GONNA GET AN ANSWER HYPOTHETICALLY.

AND I'M JUST, UM, IF I WANTED TO GIVE $10,000 TO THIS FUND, WE DON'T KNOW THAT I COULD DO THAT RIGHT NOW.

CORRECT? THAT THAT'S CORRECT.

AS A, AS A PRIVATE DONATION.

I I BELIEVE IT, IT, IT MAY HAVE TO COME THROUGH A DIFFERENT FUND.

THAT'S SOMETHING I'M STILL GONNA GET BACK TO.

WE DO HAVE THE OPTION DURING OUR AD HOC PORTION OF THE MEETING IF, UM, ANYONE WANTS TO FORM AN AD HOC TO LOOK AT THIS MORE CLOSELY, UM, PER THE REQUEST, UM, OF OUR GUESTS, UH, TO BE ABLE TO, TO DIG INTO SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS THAT COULD BE A COMPELLING USE OF AN AD HOC TO SUPPLEMENT THE RESEARCH THAT ATO DOING.

LET ME ASK YOU ANOTHER QUESTION.

IF OTHER COMMISSIONS WHO HAVE A LOT OF MONEY WANTED TO GIVE TO THIS FUND, COULD THEY BE ABLE TO GIVE TO THIS FUND THROUGH A GRANT PROCESS? I CAN CONFIRM WITH YOU THEORETICALLY.

I THINK THAT IS DIFFERENT THOUGH, BECAUSE IF IT'S, IF IT'S COMING FROM ANOTHER COMMISSION, THAT WOULD BE PUBLIC FUNDS ALREADY.

PUBLIC PUB, PUBLIC MONIES, NOT, NOT A, ANY TYPE OF PRIVATE COMMINGLING.

SO I THEORETICALLY I THINK THAT MAY BE OKAY, BUT AGAIN, WITH MY RESEARCH, I, I WILL CONFIRM THAT.

CAN WE GET AN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION? THANK YOU.

THESE ARE GOOD QUESTIONS AND I APPRECIATE THAT THERE IS, I THINK, AN ACTIVE INTEREST IN PROBLEM SOLVING, UH, TOGETHER TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT WHAT IS, I THINK IT SEEMS PRETTY CLEARLY A SHARED UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS AN ASSET TO OUR COMMUNITY, UH, AND TO THE CITY.

UM, AND SO HOW DO WE FIND WAYS TO, TO, TO ADVANCE THAT? UM,

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SO PUTTING THAT OUT THERE AS AN OPTION FOR COMMISSIONERS WHEN WE GET TO THE A TALK SECTION COULD BE A COMPELLING THING, UH, TO LOOK INTO.

UM, COMMISSIONER SEMI WEILL OVERDUE.

I JUST HAD A SECONDARY QUESTION.

SO, UM, I HEARD ANOTHER, ANOTHER BARRIER, ANOTHER GAB, AND I THINK, UM, UH, UM, COMMISSIONER SCHULTZ HAD ALLUDED TO IT.

SO IN, UH, IN REGARDS TO WORKFORCE CAPACITY AND THE LACK OF SPECIALTY ATTORNEYS OR LAWYERS FOR, UH, IMMIGRATION LAW, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT THE CITY OF LONG BEACH CAN DO? OR IS THERE SOMETHING IN PLACE WHERE WE MAY BE ABLE TO PROVIDE EDUCATIONAL SUBSIDIES SUCH AS LIKE THE LONG BEACH PROMISE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHERE SOMEONE COULD PURSUE IMMIGRATION LAW, UM, BUT IN RETURN THEY WORK IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH OR IN ONE OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS FOR TWO YEARS OR WHATEVER.

UM, I KNOW THAT THAT IS, UM, SOMETHING THAT THEY'VE DONE IN OTHER, IN OTHER SPACES.

SO WONDERING IF THERE'S SOMETHING CREATIVELY THAT WE CAN DO OR THINK OF THAT, UM, WE COULD POTENTIALLY PURSUE.

SO IN TERMS OF LEGAL SERVICE PROVIDERS IN, IN LONG BEACH, UM, HISTORICALLY WHAT WE FOUND OUT IS THAT, UH, WHEN WE, WHEN THE JUSTICE FUND PARTNERS WITH LEGAL SERVICE PROVIDING ORGANIZATIONS THAT SPECIFICALLY FOCUS ON PROVIDING, UM, IMMIGRATION LEGAL SERVICES TO COMMUNITY, LONG BEACH IS A LEGAL DESERT WHEN IT COMES TO THOSE ORGANIZATIONS, WHICH IS WHY THE JUSTICE FUND HAS BEEN PARTNERING WITH ORGANIZATIONS FROM LOS ANGELES AND OR SAN DIEGO.

UM, DON'T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT WHAT THE CITY OF LONG BEACH CAN DO TO ADDRESS THAT, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATIONS, UM, WHO DO THESE SERVICES.

SO THEN, YEAH, SO JUST, I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING TO REFLECT ON BECAUSE IF THE CITY OF LONG BEACH HAS A LACK OF ORGANIZATIONS SPECIFICALLY TIED TO A MAJOR, YOU KNOW, UM, ISSUE, UM, TO OUR, RELATED TO OUR CITIZENS, I THINK THERE IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK, WE COULD LOOK INTO THERE.

I THINK WE HAVE A RESPONSE FROM, UH, THE GUESTS.

SOMETHING THAT, UM, MAYBE YOU COULD LOOK INTO.

UM, I LEARNED ABOUT, UM, I BELIEVE A PERSON OR THAT'S A PART OF AN ORGANIZATION CAN BECOME DOJ ACCREDITED.

UM, SO THAT WOULD MAKE IT SO I BELIEVE THEY'RE ABLE TO ACT AS A LAWYER UP UNTIL THE POINT OF LIKE ACTUALLY REPRESENTING SOMEONE IN COURT.

UM, I BELIEVE, UM, OR CAN'T BE, UM, DOJ ACCREDITED BECAUSE WE'RE A FISCAL SPONSOR THROUGH ANOTHER NONPROFIT.

UM, BUT A NONPROFIT THAT WAS ITS SOLE ENTITY I BELIEVE COULD BE DOJ ACCREDITED.

UM, SO MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY OR THIS COMMISSION TO WORK OUT, UM, LIKE IN AN MOU PROCESS OR SOMETHING TO HAVE SOMEONE BECOME A DOJ ACCREDITED REP TO HELP WITH LIKE VERY BASIC, UM, IMMIGRATION, UM, RELATED NEEDS.

UH, COMMISSIONER COLE? YES.

WE, WHEN WE'VE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL, WE'VE ALSO EXPLAINED THE, THE, THE CARRYOVER AND THE, THE CONTRACTS.

UM, I, I'M JUST JUMPING AHEAD.

IN MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE COMMISSION AND WORKING ON LETTERS TO THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, PERHAPS THERE IS A WAY, I ASSUME THERE'S BACKUP TO THIS CHART BECAUSE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ARE ARISING ABOUT THIS CARRYOVER NUMBER.

'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S NOT CLEAR IF YOU'RE NOT IN THE DAY-TO-DAY OF IT, BUT I THINK, I'M NOT A FINANCE PERSON, BUT I, WE CAN GET HELP TOO TO BREAK IT OUT, TO SHOW HOW IT DOES ALIGN, HOW THIS, THESE FUNDS, YOU COULD DO IT MONTHLY, HOW IT ALIGNS WITH THE CITY BUDGETS.

AND I KNOW THERE ARE ALL THESE FOOTNOTES, BUT I THINK THERE'S WAYS, UH, OUR GUESTS GAVE SOME EXAMPLES OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT TRANSPIRED TO CONSOLIDATE THAT FEEDBACK BECAUSE WE HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL, AND THEY RECEIVE SO MANY REQUESTS THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO BE CONCISE AND CLEAR.

SO DOES THAT BACKUP EXIST? OR HOW WOULD WE GET HELP TO DO THAT? AND DO YOU THINK WE CAN DO THAT TO BREAK IT OUT? TO PROVIDE A, NOT VERY DETAILED, BUT, UM, 'CAUSE I, I WAS FOLLOWING ALONG, BUT I USED YOUR HANDOUTS.

SO ON PAGE 12 WITH THE , WITH THE COLUMNS, WITH AVAILABLE EXPENDITURES CARRY OVER, I JUST THINK IT'S A RED FLAG AND SOMEONE ON THE CITY COUNCILS CAN SEE THAT AND NOT UNDERSTAND IT, OR WHY HASN'T THIS BEEN SPENT? AND IT WILL RAISE A RED FLAG AND NOT PROVIDING VOTING YES.

ON PROVIDING MORE FUNDS.

YES, MOST DEFINITELY.

AND

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UM, AGAIN, NOT ALIGNING WITH THE FISCAL YEAR, UH, BUT YES, WE, WE CAN DEFINITELY TRACK BACK THE FUNDING TO THE INCEPTION OF THE PROGRAM.

SO YOU HAVE THE BACKUP.

SO IF WE NEEDED TO, WE COULD WORK ON THAT.

AND THEN I DID HAVE A QUESTION 'CAUSE WE HAVE THOSE IMPACT STATEMENTS, BUT THERE WAS SOMEWHERE ELSE, UM, LIKE CASES, LIKE JUST TRYING TO QUANTIFY , UM, AND LIKE, MAKE OUR POINT.

THERE WERE, LET'S SEE, I WANNA SAY 19 TO TWENTY FIVE, A HUNDRED FOURTEEN REMOVAL DEFENSE CASES AND 36 AFFIRMATIVE CASES.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? 36 AFFIRMATIVE CASES.

LIKE WERE THOSE 36 HELPED AND THEY'RE HERE AND THEY'RE OKAY.

THOSE PEOPLE OR FAMILIES.

SO, SO AGAIN, IMMIGRATION LAW IS INCREDIBLY COMPLEX.

SO WE ARE MEASURING WHAT THE REPORT INDICATES IS THE CASE THAT HAD BEEN ACCEPTED FOR REPRESENTATION.

A LOT OF THE CASES ARE STILL ONGOING.

UM, SO OF, OF THE 114 REMOVAL DEFENSE CASES, UM, THOSE WERE THE ONES THAT WERE ACCEPTED.

UM, AGAIN, SUMMER, SO ONGOING.

SO I, I CAN'T GIVE YOU AN EXACT NUMBER OF WHAT THE OUTCOME OF ALL 114 CASES HAS BEEN.

AND THEN ONE ITEM TO NOTE, UM, JUST CIRCLING AROUND THIS ISSUE, NOT NECESSARILY IN LONG BEACH, BUT IN OUR COUNTRY AS FAR AS WHETHER IT'S BUSINESSES PROVIDING FUNDING OR INDIVIDUALS, I HAVE HEARD INSTANCES WHERE PEOPLE WERE RESISTANT OR QUESTIONED GIVING FUNDING BECAUSE THEY ARE AFRAID OF RETRIBUTION.

SO IF THERE'S A WAY TO OBTAIN FUNDS AND PEOPLE CAN DO THIS ANONYMOUSLY, PERHAPS THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE WORKED THROUGH AS WELL.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT I, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME PRACTICES THAT ON THE CITY SIDE AND ON THE COMMUNITY CONNECTOR SIDE THAT IS DONE TO TRY AND PROTECT THE PRIVACY, PARTICULARLY WITH FEDERAL INFORMATION SHARING.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU WANNA SHARE A LITTLE BIT ON, ON WHAT PRACTICES ARE IN PLACE TO DO THAT PROTECTION.

UH, YEAH.

SO WHAT, THAT'S, AGAIN, THAT'S WHY WE WORK DIRECTLY WITH COMMUNITY CONNECTORS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE FEEL THE COMMUNITY TRUST LIES.

UM, SO, UH, THE CITY ADMINISTERS CONTRACTS AND THE, THE, THE FUNDING OF THE JUSTICE FUND, WE PROVIDE THAT TO THE COMMUNITY CONNECTORS WHO MAKE THOSE DIRECT LINKAGES VIA REFERRALS TO LEGAL SERVICE PROVIDERS.

AND THEN THE LEGAL SERVICE PROVIDERS PRO PROVIDE A CONSULTATION.

THEY ASSESS THEIR CAPACITY, AND THEY'RE ABLE TO DECIDE IF THEY CAN OR CANNOT TAKE A CASE.

BUT THE ENTIRE TIME THERE'S CLIENT, UM, UH, LAWYER CLIENT PRIVILEGE.

SO THAT INFORMATION STAYS WITHIN THE COM.

THE, THE LEGAL SERVICE PROVIDERS AND THE COMMUNITY CONNECTORS.

I THINK IT'S GREAT WHEN WE CAN TALK TO THE PEOPLE IN THE, UH, IN THE AUDIENCE.

USUALLY THEY ASK US QUESTIONS AND WE CAN ONLY STARE BLANKLY AT YOU, BUT WE GET TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A DIALOGUE BECAUSE, UH, YOUR SPEAKERS.

SO I WANNA THROW IT, UH, BACK TO, TO BOTH OF YOU.

REFERRALS TO THE JUSTICE FUND, A FAMILY MEMBER WILL CALL AND ASK LIKE, HEY, IS THERE ANY UPDATE ON MY CASE? UM, AND THEN IN THAT INSTANCE, I MIGHT ASK THE LAWYER, UM, FOR WHAT THE UPDATE IS AND THEN SHARE THAT INFORMATION BACK WITH THE CLIENT.

UH, UH, AND THIS IS A QUESTION FOR BOTH OF YOU.

UH, THERE JUST, I, I COULDN'T EVEN IMAGINE, UH, UH, UH, THE, THE, THE WORK YOU DO, UH, THE PEOPLE YOU REPRESENT AND WHAT THEY GO THROUGH, EVEN WHEN THEY DO IT RIGHT THERE, THEY SHOW UP TO COURT AND DISMISS.

TAKE 'EM AWAY.

UH, I, I I I, I JUST, YOU'RE THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND.

UH, UM, WE CAN'T REALLY DO ANYTHING ABOUT, UH, FEDERAL COURT.

WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IMMIGRATION.

UM, WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

UM, SO IN, IN THAT VEIN, UH, MY QUESTION TO BOTH OF YOU, UM, WHAT SHOULD WE RECOMMEND? WHAT ARE, WHAT YOU'RE THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND.

WHAT, WHAT BARRIERS, WHAT RED TAPE ARE YOU COMING UP AGAINST? UH, WITH THE CITY OF LONG BEACH, UH, I MEAN, I KNOW THE RED TAPE I COME UP AGAINST WHEN I PRODUCE AN EVENT OR, UH, OR DO THINGS WITH NONPROFITS.

UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT RECOMMENDATIONS CAN WE MAKE ON YOUR BEHALF AS A COMMISSION TO THE CITY LEADERS? PERFECT.

UM, BEFORE I ANSWER THAT QUESTION, I WANTED JUST TO RESPOND QUICKLY TO THE PIECE ON PRIVACY, UM, WITH THE LEGAL SERVICE PROVIDERS, UM, THE WAY THAT IT WORKS RIGHT NOW IS I DON'T BELIEVE THE CITY COLLECTS, UM, SENSITIVE INFORMATION LIKE PEOPLE'S A NUMBERS, COUNTRY OF ORIGIN, ANYTHING THAT COULD BE USED AGAINST THEM.

UM, THAT INFORMATION IS SURELY SHARED BETWEEN, UM, THE COMMUNITY CONNECTORS, THE PERSON RECEIVING THE HELP AND THE LEGAL SERVICE PROVIDERS.

UM, WE'VE ACTUALLY TAKEN STEPS TO EVEN INCREASE THAT FURTHER.

UM, AN EXAMPLE OF THIS WOULD BE, UM, SOMETIMES WHEN I DO

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UM, BUT OUR NEW PROCESS NOW IS WHEN SOMEONE ASKS THAT QUESTION, I'LL REFER THEM DIRECTLY TO THE LONG BEACH JUSTICE FUND, UM, COORDINATOR.

SO THEN I WON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE UPDATE OR THE DETAILS OF THE CASE.

BUT THAT'S SHARED SPECIFICALLY ONLY BETWEEN, UM, THE CLIENT AND THE LEGAL SERVICE PROVIDERS.

UM, AS WELL AS WE TAKE A LOT OF DIGITAL SAFETY STEPS.

SO ALL OF OUR, UM, LIKE, UH, SPREADSHEETS THAT WE USE TO KEEP TRACK OF EVERYTHING IS UNDER PASSWORD PROTECTION.

UM, LOCK-IN KEY.

IF WE TAKE DOWN ANYONE'S INFORMATION FOR ACCOMPANIMENT, UM, WE'LL SHRED IT.

UM, AND, UH, COMING UP HERE PRETTY SOON, UM, THE LEGAL SERVICE PROVIDERS ARE DEVELOPING THEIR OWN PLATFORMS FOR REFERRALS, UM, THROUGH LIKE THEIR LEGAL SERVER, I BELIEVE IS WHAT IT'S CALLED.

UM, SO THEN WE'LL HAVE EVEN MORE PROTECTION, UM, FOR THE REFERRALS AND PEOPLE'S INFORMATION.

UM, SO THEN THAT WAY ALL OF THE SENSITIVE INFORMATION WON'T BE STORED WITH THE CITY, BUT IT'LL BE STORED WITH THE LEGAL SERVICE PROVIDERS AND THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO PROTECT THAT DATA SINCE THEY'RE LIKE A PRIVATE, UM, ENTITY.

AND THEN, UM, IN REGARDS TO THE RED TAPE, UM, I THINK A BIG HICCUP WAS DEFINITELY THAT TIME PERIOD THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER WHERE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS WERE STILL GOING ON, UM, BECAUSE PEOPLE STILL NEEDED SERVICES.

UM, SO I THINK TO THE BEST THAT WE'RE ABLE TO STREAMLINE, UM, LIKE FUNDING TO THE PROGRAM AS WELL AS, UM, WHEN THE PROGRAM'S ACTUALLY BEING ABLE TO BE USED, UM, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

UM, I THINK THE CITY, UM, THIS PAST TIME THERE WAS JUST A LOT OF LIKE BACK AND FORTH TO CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS.

UM, SO I THINK WHATEVER THE COMMISSION CAN DO TO STREAMLINE, UM, THOSE CONVERSATIONS OR THOSE PROCESSES, UM, WOULD DEFINITELY BE GREAT.

UM, I WILL ALSO SAY, UM, SPECIFICALLY IN REGARDS TO YOUR COMMENT AROUND LIKE, NOT ONLY IMMIGRATION COURT, BUT THERE'S ALSO A COURT HERE IN LONG BEACH AS WELL AS LIKE THE LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL, WHERE WE HAVE SEEN A COUPLE, UM, SIGHTINGS OF IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT BEING PRESENT, UM, AND TAKING PEOPLE, UM, COMING UP SOON HERE ON NOVEMBER 10TH, UM, THERE'S GOING TO BE A AGENDA ITEM ON THE LONG BEACH VALUES ACT, WHICH IS OUR LOCAL SANCTUARY CITY POLICY.

AND ONE OF THE DEMANDS IN THERE IS TO REMOVE, UM, EXCEPTIONS FOR SB 54 VIOLATIONS, WHICH IS A STATE, UM, LAW THAT SAYS THAT IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT ISN'T ABLE TO WORK WITH, UM, LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENTS, UM, AND WELL AS, UM, DIFFERENT COURTS TO SHARE INFORMATION, UM, ON PEOPLE'S LIKE IMMIGRATION STATUS.

UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION CAN DO.

IF Y'ALL COULD WRITE A LETTER TO SUPPORT THE LONG BEACH VALUES ACT, UM, THERE'S A BUNCH OF OTHER DEMANDS IN THERE AS WELL.

UM, WOULD BE HAPPY TO SHARE, UM, A TWO PAGER ON SOME OF THE DEMANDS ON WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.

UM, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH CITY COUNCIL TO PASS THOSE PROTECTIONS 'CAUSE THEY ARE THINGS THAT ARE NOT TIED TO BUDGET ITEMS, UM, THAT THE CITY COUNCIL CAN DO TO PROVIDE STRONGER PROTECTIONS, UH, FOR THE IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY.

UM, ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE DEMANDS, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, IS BANNING THE YOUTH, UH, PUBLIC GROUND FOR FEDERAL IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT OR STAGING.

UM, SOMETHING WE SAW LAST YEAR IN OCTOBER DURING THE RAIDS WAS THAT, UM, USING THE HOME DEPOT ON WILLOW AND CHERRY, FOR EXAMPLE, IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT WOULD GO THERE, GRAB THE DAY LABORERS, AND THEN THEY WOULD TAKE THEM TO THE BEST BUY PARKING LOT DOWN THE STREET, UM, ON CHERRY THAT WAS EMPTY DURING THE DAY.

THEY WOULD LOAD THEM UP INTO A VAN, AND THEN THAT'S WHERE THEY WOULD GO TO BE PROCESSED.

UM, SO WE'RE URGING THE CITY TO PASS, UM, IN THE VALUES ACT, SOMETHING THAT SAYS THAT, UM, THEY WON'T ALLOW FEDERAL IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT TO USE, UM, PUBLIC PROPERTY FOR STAGING.

SO TO RECAP, I WOULD DEFINITELY SAY, UM, IF THERE'S ANY HICCUPS DURING THE, UM, CONTRACT NEGOTIATION OR PROCESS, IF WE COULD LEAN ON THE COMMISSION, UM, FOR SUPPORT AND HELPING STREAMLINE THE PROCESS, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

UM, AS WELL AS A LETTER OF SUPPORT, UM, FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO PASS THE LONG BEACH VALUES ACT AS WELL.

UH, THANK YOU.

AND THEN ANOTHER COMMISSIONER LARA.

OH, YEAH, SORRY, SORRY, SORRY.

I HAVE, I HAVE A SHORT RESPONSE I THINK IN TERMS OF JUST, UH, UH, ONE OF THE COMMISSIONER WAS ASKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE DONATIONS OR THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, WHEN WE GET FUNDING, AT LEAST FOR OUR ORGANIZATION, UNITED CAMBODIA COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, THAT FUNDING GOES INTO SPECIFIC BUCKET.

FOR EXAMPLE, IF, IF, IF YOU ALL WANT TO, TO RAISE FUNDS AND THEN SAY, OKAY, CAN YOU JUST SPEND THIS ON IMMIGRATION TOPICS ONLY? AND THEN THAT'S WHAT WE ALL LOCATE IT FOR, WHETHER THAT GOES TO STAFF FUNDING OR, UH, CLIENT SUPPORT SERVICES, YOU KNOW, THAT HELPS TO PAY FOR THEIR BILLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, BUT, UH, YEAH, JUST, UH, TO TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON THE, THE, THE LONG BEACH VALUES ACT, THE, UH, OUR OUR CLIENT AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS OUT THERE PERHAPS ARE FEARFUL AROUND, YOU KNOW, APPLYING FOR MEDICARE, FOR EXAMPLE.

SO THEIR, THEIR PRIVATE INFORMATION DOESN'T GET THAT.

THAT'S ALSO IN THE NEWS AS WELL, IN TERMS OF JUST THE ICE AGENCIES TRYING TO GET, UM, CLIENT INFORMATION.

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SO THEN THAT, THEN THAT DETERS PEOPLE FROM SEEKING HELP OR SEEKING SOCIAL SERVICES.

UH, AND, AND WE, WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THE, UM, THE, THE CAMERAS ARE GOING UP NOW HERE IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH AS WELL.

AND WE KNOW THAT, I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE PUBLIC WORKS OR, UM, BUT WE ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, CAMERAS AND THINGS LIKE THAT DOESN'T GET SHARED THROUGHOUT THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH, UH, FOR THE LONG, UH, FOR THE VALUES ACT, UM, O ONLY BECAUSE THE, IT'S JUST EVERYWHERE.

AND WE UNDERSTAND TOO THAT, UM, THERE'S ALSO PRI PRIVATE PROPERTY CAMERA, UH, AS WELL.

AND THEN THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE LIKE, LEGAL STRAIGHT, UM, WAS IT LE LEGAL REALM TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THAT.

UM, BUT IT, WE KNOW IT'S COMPLICATED, BUT WITHIN THE CITY, DEFINITELY THAT'S THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AREA THAT WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT THAT'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, TO PROTECT, UH, CLIENTS AND, UH, COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

THANKS.

THANK YOU BOTH.

COMMISSIONER LARA.

UH, UM, I WANTED TO ALSO LEVERAGE BOTH OF YOUR EXPERTISE, UM, AND ASK ABOUT FURTHER IMPACT THAT IS ALSO IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE INTERSECTIONAL FRAMEWORK THAT THIS COMMISSION HAS USED HISTORICALLY.

UM, WHEN THE LONG BEACH IS A, IS A, IS A QUEER CITY, RIGHT? SO IF YOU HAVE ANY, YOU KNOW, UM, ANY VIGNETTES OR ANYTHING THAT HAS HELPED IN ORDER TO, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO TRANS, UM, OR JUST BROADLY THE LGBT COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THERE'S OTHER LAYERS OF CON UH, CONFIDENTIALITY, ANONYMITY, PROTECTION AND COMPLEXITY IN THOSE CASES.

AND I THINK THERE'S A GENERAL ASSUMPTION IN THE PUBLIC THAT WHEN IT COMES TO IMMIGRATION, IT IS PRIMARILY A LATINA ISSUE.

UH, BUT IT IS ALSO A CAMBODIAN ISSUE.

IT IS ALSO A FILIPINO ISSUE, AND IT'S ALSO A BLACK ISSUE.

AND THE WAY IN WHICH THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM INTERSECTS WITH IMMIGRATION, AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, ALTHOUGH IT DIDN'T SURPRISE ME, THAT OF ALL IMMIGRANTS, IT IS OUR BLACK IMMIGRANTS THAT GET DETAINED FOR THE LONGEST PERIOD OF TIME IN THE, I DON'T LIKE TO CALL THEM DETENTION CENTERS, CONCENTRATION CAPS, IS WHAT I PREFER TO CALL THEM.

UM, I KNOW MY MEMBERS, I, BUT I THINK IT'S, WE NEED TO NAME IT.

SO, AND THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S IMPORTANT.

SO IF ANY OF YOU HAVE ANY VIGNETTES TO SHARE, WHICH IS ALSO TRANSLATING TO QUALITATIVE DATA AS WE PEPPERED IN THIS PRESENTATION, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

AND IF NOT, NO WORRIES.

RIGHT.

UM, BUT I WILL SAY THAT IF THAT HASN'T PRESENTED ITSELF IN YOUR, IN YOUR CASES, THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN IT DOESN'T EXIST IN LONG BEACH BECAUSE IT'S THERE.

THAT'S SOMETHING I'VE EXPERIENCED.

UM, YEAH, THOSE CASES DO EXIST AND THEY COME IN VARIOUS DIFFERENT FORMS. UM, THINKING ABOUT, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, LIKE SEXUAL ORIENTATION OR SEXUAL IDENTITY MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE USE AS A REASONING FOR THEIR ASYLUM CASE, FOR EXAMPLE.

UM, SOMETHING ELSE I'VE EXPERIENCED IS JUST QUEER PEOPLE ALSO BEING SCARED TO VOLUNTEER IF THEY'RE IMMIGRANTS AS WELL.

UM, I'VE GOTTEN THAT REQUEST, UM, AS WELL.

UM, SO THERE ARE THOSE CASES.

AND THEN TO YOUR MENTION, YOUR EARLIER POINT ABOUT THE INTERSECTIONALITY, WHICH I VERY APPRECIATE AND APPRECIATE YOU ALSO NAMING, UH, THE DETENTION CENTERS AS CONCENTRATION CAMPS.

'CAUSE THAT IS, UM, A LOT OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE ALSO HEAR TO THE JUSTICE FUND.

IT'S JUST HOW TERRIBLE, UM, THE CENTERS ARE.

UM, I GET TO WORK WITH SOME OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT GET RELEASED AFTER THE FACT THAT THEY'VE SHARED SOME PRETTY, LIKE, HARROWING, LIKE VERY TERRIBLE THINGS THAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH.

AND WE TRY TO CONNECT THEM, UM, TO DIFFERENT RESOURCES.

UM, BUT I WOULD SAY THE BIGGEST INTERSECTIONS THAT WE COME ACROSS ARE, UM, ACT, UH, HOUSING INSECURITY.

SO WHEN SOMEONE'S DETAINED, THEIR FAMILY, UM, OFTEN EXPERIENCES A FINANCIAL WHOLE, UM, BECAUSE THEIR FAMILY MEMBER, MAYBE THE BREAD, THE MAIN BREADWINNER OF THE FAMILY ISN'T THERE.

UM, SO THE MAIN TWO WOULD DEFINITELY BE, UM, LIKE HOUSING INSECURITY AFTER, UM, AS WELL AS FOOD INSECURITY.

SO ALL THINGS KIND OF RELATED TO, UM, THERE BEING A, UM, LIKE FINANCIAL GAP BEING LEFT BY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING DETAINED.

UM, AND THEN I ALSO JUST WANNA ECHO THE FACT THAT, UM, YESTERDAY IS A, UM, WIDER ISSUE THAN JUST LIKE A LATINA ISSUE.

IT AFFECTS ALL PEOPLE.

AND THROUGH THE JUSTICE FUND THAT ALSO HAS BEEN REFLECTED.

WE'VE HELPED PEOPLE FROM VARIOUS OTHER COUNTRIES, UM, TO NAME A FEW LIKE GERMANY, UM, DIFFERENT PARTS OF AFRICA, UM, FROM LONG BEACH RESIDENTS WHO REACH OUT TO US JUST BECAUSE THEY HEAR THAT, OH, THESE PEOPLE ARE HELPING WITH LAWYERS.

UM, SO THEY'LL STILL REACH OUT AND WE STILL ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE, UM, THAT SERVICE FOR THEM.

BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR, UH, COMMENTS AND RESPONSES AND QUESTIONS AS WELL.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR RESPONSE.

IN DETENTION OR IN CONCENTRATION CAMPS, AND WE'D EVEN TOUCH ON THINGS LIKE MEDICAL NEGLECT AND LIKE THE, THE HEALTH IMPACTS THAT LONG BEACH RESIDENTS ARE FACING IN THESE SITES LIKE ALTO, RIGHT? SO WE COULD HAVE ANOTHER HOUR TALKING ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT INTERSECTIONAL COMPONENTS OF THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.

THANK YOU ALL.

I THINK THIS WAS A VERY ROBUST DISCUSSION AND I THINK, UH, WE COVERED A LOT OF GROUND AND THERE'S SO MUCH THAT WE DON'T EVEN GET TO TALK ABOUT EVEN WITH THIS, RIGHT? WE FOLKS MENTIONED THINGS ABOUT, UH, THE EXPERIENCE

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UM, SO WITH THAT THOUGH, I DO WANNA REALLY APPRECIATE, UM, OUR TWO GUESTS JOINING US AS COMMUNITY CONNECTORS.

UM, AND FOR TONY, AS I MENTIONED UP TOP, UM, FOR REALLY BEING LIKE OUR, OUR ANCHOR FOR THIS PROGRAM HERE AT THE STAFF LEVEL.

UH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE IT'S AN EXAMPLE OF THE PUBLIC AND THE COMMUNITY, THE PUBLIC, PUBLIC SECTOR IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, MOVING THROUGH A LOT OF THESE CHALLENGES AND ACTUALLY DOING A PROGRAM THAT IS HELPING PEOPLE'S LIVES, UM, AND MODELING THAT KIND OF WORK.

AND SO THAT PUBLIC TRUST QUESTION THAT CAME UP A COUPLE TIMES, UM, THIS IS, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A BRIGHT SPOT.

UH, AND I THINK IT'S ALSO A REMINDER THAT THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF CITIES THAT HAVE THIS, UM, AROUND THE COUNTRY.

IT'S INCREDIBLY RARE FOR MUNICIPALITIES AND COUNTIES TO HAVE A PUBLIC INVESTMENT IN THIS KIND OF DEFENSE PROGRAM.

UM, AND SO LONG BEACH IS A LEADER IN THIS WAY, UM, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, WE SHOULD AT LEAST, IN MY VIEW, BE PROUD OF AS A CITY, EVEN AS WE WORK TO IMPROVE IT.

UM, AND SO, AS I MENTIONED, THE AD HOC PORTION IS A GREAT TIME OF FOLKS, UH, ARE INTERESTED IN TRYING TO, UM, CONTINUE TO, UH, ADVANCE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AROUND THIS ISSUE.

THE AD HOC SECTION, UM, ITEM FOUR, I BELIEVE ON THE AGENDA, IT WOULD BE A GOOD TIME FOR SOMEONE TO MAKE A MOTION IF THEY WANTED TO, UH, TO CREATE THAT.

UM, AND SO WE'LL HOLD THAT PERIOD FOR THEN ANY FINAL COMMENTS FOR THE GOOD OF THE GROUP? UM, FROM THE REMAINDER OF THE COMMISSION? ALRIGHT.

OH, GO AHEAD, YTO.

AND, UH, C COMMISSIONERS, I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM FOR, TO MAKE SURE I'M, I'M, I HAVE THIS, UH, CORRECT.

SO COMMISSIONER LARA AGAIN FOR YOU, IT'S, IT JUST FINDING OUT IF PRIVATE FUNDS CAN BE ADDED TO THE JUSTICE FUND AND, UH, IF THAT IS ALLOWED OR, OR WHAT, IF ANY, RESTRICTIONS.

AND, UH, COMMISSIONER DOCKERY WAS, UH, SIMILAR, BUT CAN OTHER CITIES FUND THE JUSTICE FUND AS WELL AS ANY OTHER COMMISSIONS THAT HAVE ANY EXTRA PUBLIC MONIES? CAN THOSE ALSO BE DONATED INTO THE FUND? AND IF THEY CAN, WHAT'S THE PROTOCOL CORRECT AS A GRANT? AS, AS A GRANT? OKAY.

UM, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND PASS IT TO THE CLERK TO MOVE US TO THE CLOSE.

THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME, IF ANYONE WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM IN THE ZOOM MEETING, PLEASE RAISE, USE THE RAISED HAND FEATURE.

SEEING NONE.

THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT CHAIR.

ALRIGHT, I THINK WE MOVE TO A VOTE.

ARE WE WAITING ON ANYTHING HERE OR OPEN IT? OH, OKAY.

AWESOME.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND READ THE NEXT ITEM.

AND THANK YOU TO OUR GUESTS.

YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY LONGER IF YOU'D LIKE.

AND WE MAY TALK ABOUT STUFF FROM AD HOC.

YOU ALSO DO NOT HAVE TO STAY HERE FOR ANOTHER 90 MINUTES IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO.

ITEM THREE IS THE RECOMMENDATION TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS A LETTER FROM THE EMERGENCY DISASTER AND EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS PREPAREDNESS AD HOC COMMITTEE REGARDING RECOMMENDATIONS TO STRENGTHEN EQUITABLE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH AND OBTAIN COMMISSIONER FEEDBACK.

[3. 26-56364 Recommendation to review and discuss a letter from the Emergency Disaster and Extreme Weather Events Preparedness Ad Hoc Committee regarding recommendations to strengthen equitable emergency preparedness in the City of Long Beach and obtain Commission feedback. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

UM, ALRIGHT.

UH, WE DO HAVE A, UH, LETTER ATTACHED TO THIS, UM, WHICH I HOPE FOLKS ARE ABLE TO READ.

I THINK WHAT I'LL DO NOW IS I'LL PASS TO THE AD HOC MEMBERS, UM, VICE SCHULTZ, COMMISSIONER DOCKERY, COMMISSIONER COLE, COMMISSIONER BROWN, UM, WHO, UH, CAN WALK US THROUGH, UM, THE HARD WORK THAT'S GONE INTO THE DRAFT LETTER.

UM, AND BEFORE WE DIVE IN, I JUST WANNA REALLY APPRECIATE, UM, THIS GROUP MEETING MULTIPLE TIMES OVER THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS.

UM, FINDING TIME EVEN WHEN EVERYONE CAN MAKE IT, UH, UH, TO WORK WITH TONY AND EACH OTHER TO TAKE A PASS AT THIS LETTER.

UM, I BELIEVE THE INTENT IS THAT THIS IS, UH, TIME FOR US TO GATHER FEEDBACK.

IT'S NOT THE TIME NECESSARILY TO PASS IT TODAY, BUT TO REALLY GATHER FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL.

SO I'LL PASS TO THE AD HOC TO WALK US THROUGH THE CONTEXT, ANY OTHER FRAMING YOU WANT TO GIVE, AND THE LETTER ITSELF.

THANK YOU, JOSH.

UM, WE CREATED A LETTER, UH, UH, TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, OVER THE PAST MONTH OR SO.

UH, AND JUST OVER THE PAST WEEK WE HAD, UH, TWO, UM, I THINK WILDLY SUCCESSFUL, UH, WORKING SESSIONS, UH, WITH TONY AND, UH, RICHARD AND, UH, UH, AND CHERYL, UM, AND RICKY.

WERE, RICKY WAS THERE TOO? UH, NO.

WELL, I WAS JUST TRYING TO GIVE YOU CREDIT.

FOR THE RECORD, RICKY WAS NOT THERE.

UH,

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MM-HMM.

UH, OKAY.

SO THE LETTER, UH, IS IN YOUR PACKET AND IT LOOKS, UH, VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHEN WE STARTED.

UM, IT WAS, UH, THAT'S MY FAULT.

I, I WAS, UM, UH, I SEE CERT AS A, AS JUST A, A REALLY GREAT CITY RESOURCE.

AND, UM, AND THANKFULLY WE HAVE, UH, UH, ATTORNEY, UH, A TOY, UH, LET US KNOW THAT MAYBE IT WAS TOO CER CENTRIC, UH, AND WE HAD TO DECERTIFY SOME.

SO RATHER THAN BEING THE CONTEXT, UH, UH, THE, THE CONTEXT OF THE LETTER, IT BECAME JUST ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE CONTENT AND DEALT WITH THE MORE WIDELY RANGING, UH, UH, UH, UH, WAY OF HOW WE RESPOND TO DISASTERS, UH, USING A, UH, AN EQUITABLE LENS.

UM, SO, UH, THIS WAS IN YOUR PACKETS.

UH, WE, WE GOT THIS TO YOU WITHIN MINUTES OF, UH, OF OUR FINAL DRAFT ON, ON MONDAY.

UH, AND WE, WE SENT IT TO YOU FIRST, RICKY, LIKE, WE, WE MADE SURE THAT YOU HAD IT AS SOON AS WE HAD IT.

UH, BUT I, I HOPE THAT YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THIS LETTER.

UH, AND, UM, UH, AND WE'VE EDITED IT TO, TO THE POINT TO WHERE WE HOPE THAT WE COULD GET, UH, COMMENTS FROM THE ENTIRE COMMISSION, UH, AND THAT, UH, UH, ANY TWEAKS, TUNES AT ITS CAN BE DONE SO THAT WE COULD HAVE THIS, UH, BRING THIS, UH, ON THE NOVEMBER, NOVEMBER AGENDA, UH, FOR APPROVAL TO, UH, SEND TO, UM, CITY COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, AS, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

CERTAINLY BEFORE WE, WE GO DARK AND, AND WE HAVE TO WAIT TILL JANUARY TO DO IT.

UH, SO, UH, I'D LOVE TO SEE, UM, ANY COMMISSIONERS QUEUE UP OR NOT, UH, AND, AND GIVE ANY INPUT ON THIS LETTER, ANY FEEDBACK ON THIS LETTER, UM, SO THAT WE CAN, WE CAN GET THIS GOING.

YOU KNOW, OUR GOAL WAS TO HAVE IT DONE, UM, AND APPROVED AT THIS MEETING.

UH, AND WE JUST, UM, WE, WE COULDN'T QUITE GET THERE.

SO, UM, I'D LOVE TO HEAR FEEDBACK FROM, FROM, UH, FROM ANYONE THAT HAS FEEDBACK.

CAN I GO C COMMISSIONER MONTGOMERY? I'LL JUST, I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY.

UM, I THINK I SAID SOMETHING SIMILAR THE LAST TIME AN AD HOC COMMITTEE GAVE A LETTER AND MAYBE LIKE, WE COULD COME UP, NOT NOW, BUT IN THE FUTURE, COME UP WITH SOME SORT OF LIKE, STRUCTURE FOR HOW WE COMPOSE LETTERS AS A COMMISSION.

UM, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD HELP A LOT.

UM, I THINK THE RECOMMENDATION SHOULD JUST COME LAST.

YOU WANNA GIVE YOUR BACKGROUND, THE BACKGROUND IS FINE, AND THEN YOU GIVE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE LETTER AND THEN YOU GIVE CONTEXT.

IT'S A LITTLE BACKWARDS, SO I WOULD, I'M NOT GONNA LIKE, TELL YOU HOW TO FIX IT, BUT I THINK THE RECOMMENDATION SHOULD COME LAST AND THE CONTEXT JUST NEEDS TO BE MOVED UP.

IT WOULD FLOW BETTER AND IT WOULD READ BETTER THAT WAY.

SO WE HAD A, WE QUICKLY SCHEDULED A A, A MONDAY, UM, GET TOGETHER.

YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE SEEN IT BEFORE.

WE HAD THE BACKGROUND OVER THERE AND THE THING WAS ON THE BACK PAGE AND, UH, UH, AND IT WAS JUST A, A TONY'S AMAZING CUT AND PASTE SKILLS THAT BROUGHT THE BACKGROUND UP TO THE FRONT OF THE LETTER WHERE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE FIRST PLACE.

BUT I, I DEFINITELY TAKE YOUR, YOUR FEEDBACK AND, AND IF, IF TONY'S FINGERS AREN'T TOO TIRED, WE COULD GET HIM TO SWITCH THE CONTEXT WITH THE, UH, WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THANK YOU.

ONE WAY TO HANDLE THAT, BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY HAD RECOMMENDATIONS IN THERE TWICE IN THE FRONT AND THE BOTTOM.

SO THAT'S WHY THE IN THE FRONT WAS LEFT AND THE BOTTOM WAS DELETED.

BUT A WAY TO HANDLE IT TOO, 'CAUSE I THINK IT'S SUCH A GREAT POINT TO HAVE A FORMAT, AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ONE.

UM, BUT YOU COULD DO IT SORT OF LIKE AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY ON TOP.

SO WE JUST HAVE BULLETS, BUT THEN THE FULL RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD FOLLOW IF THAT, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IT WOULD CERTAINLY IMPROVE THE READABILITY.

AND THIS WAS DONE REALLY QUICK.

WE, WE HAD, YOU KNOW, A TOY JUST REALLY LET US KNOW THAT, UH, TRY AGAIN, JUST GET BACK UP TO WORK.

AND, AND I THINK IT WAS THURSDAY OR FRIDAY LAST WEEK, THURSDAY, THURSDAY, WE, WE, WE, WE DID A BUNCH OF WORK AND, AND I'M LIKE, LET'S GET THIS DONE IN TIME FOR THE MEETING.

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UM, AND SO, UH, THE STRUCTURE ISN'T PERFECT, BUT WE HAD TO PUT SOMETHING TO PAPER TO PUT IN FRONT OF YOU FOR YOUR FEEDBACK SO WE COULD BE MORE.

PERFECT.

UM, SO YES, UH, THE GOOD, THE BAD, THE UGLY, YOU KNOW, GIVE US YOUR FEEDBACK BECAUSE, UM, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO HEAR IT AND WE GONNA NEED YOUR APPROVAL ON THIS, UH, AT, UM, THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING.

COMMISSIONER LAURA, UM, I APPRECIATE, UM, THE AD HOC BEING, BEING OPEN OF FEEDBACK.

UM, I'M GONNA JUMP ON, UH, COMMISSIONER MONTGOMERY HERE AND, AND, AND PROVIDE SUPPORT HERE.

UM, I THINK THERE MIGHT BE A CREATIVE WAY I HAVE TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME HERE, BUT, UH, TO COMBINE BACKGROUND AND CONTEXT, SOMETIMES OUTSIDE OF CONTEXT, I KNOW I'M BEING REDUNDANT, MAY CONVEY THE SAME THING.

SO COMBINING THE CONTEXT SECTION WITH THE BACKGROUND SECTION, BUT CONDENSING IT AND THEN LEADING INTO THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET THIS DOWN TO TWO PAGES, RIGHT? UM, AND TO, UH, ALSO SHARE IF YOU WANNA DO SOME HIGHLIGHTS AT THE TOP, JUST TO GET THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN, AND THEN SEGUE INTO THE MORE DETAIL THAT, THAT CAN HELP YOU WITH GETTING THIS IN THIS DAY AND AGE.

WE KNOW BREVITY IS KEY, SO, UM, UM, THAT CAN BE HELPFUL, RIGHT? JUST CONDENSING THOSE TWO SECTIONS INTO ONE.

THAT'S IT.

OTHER THAN THAT, UH, GREAT WORK.

I'M GLAD YOU ALL HAVE, HAVE THIS OUT.

AND YOU FOUND A WAY TO INCLUDE, I REMEMBER THE DISCUSSION FROM CERTAIN, IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN ON MY MIND SINCE A COUPLE MEETINGS AGO ONCE YOU, ONCE YOU RAISED IT.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU INCLUDING THAT AS WELL.

FANTASTIC.

UM, THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER LAURA? UH, COMMISSIONER DOCKERY.

I HAVE TO APOLOGIZE.

UM, I'VE BEEN OUTTA TOWN UNTIL YESTERDAY.

NO, YOU DON'T.

UM, AND, AND, BUT I I, AND I HAVE NOT HAD TIME TO REVIEW THE LETTER, THE UPDATED LETTER.

UM, I'M JUST SCROLLING THROUGH THIS.

I DO WANT TO GO BACK TO WHAT THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS POINTED OUT.

AND SO, UM, I JUST AM WONDERING, UM, I KNOW THAT AT THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS, THIS BECAME MORE OF A CERT ISSUE AND NOT JUST A GLOBAL ISSUE ABOUT EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS.

AND I BROUGHT UP MY CONCERN ABOUT THAT AT THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING.

I ALSO BROUGHT UP, UH, MY CONCERN ABOUT FUNDING.

AND SO CORRECT ME.

UM, BUT I HAVE READ THROUGH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S CORRESPONDENCE, AND AGAIN, I HAVE NOT HAD TIME TO GO BACK, BUT HAVE, HAS, HAS, HAVE YOU ADDRESSED THAT IN THIS NEW LETTER? I I ABOUT, ABOUT FUNDING AND ABOUT IT NOT JUST BEING ABOUT CERT? YEAH.

I, I, I, I REALLY THINK THAT WE HAVE.

UH, I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT, LIKE I SAID, UH, I, I LIKE TO SAY WE DEIFIED IT.

, OKAY.

UH, UH, IT WAS VERY CER CENTRIC.

AND AGAIN, I I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

THAT WAS MY FAULT.

I, THAT WAS, THAT WAS, THAT WAS, THAT WAS ALL ME.

WELL, IT'S THE PASSION OF YOURS.

I'M A BASE TOO.

WELL, SURE, BUT IT'S, IT'S STILL, IT'S STILL ONE OF THE MOST UNDERUTILIZED ASPECTS.

WE JUST MET AT CERT LAST NIGHT, AND WE TALKED ABOUT HOW THEY COULD NOT, THEY, THEY DID NOT.

AND THEY COULD NOT, UM, UH, ACTIVATE CERT AT THE, UH, RECENT, UH, PENINSULA CRISIS SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THE ONE PERSON LEFT IN THE OFFICE WAS ON VACATION.

THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY YOU DIDN'T SEE CERT ON THE PENINSULA.

UM, AND, AND I CAN, I, I CAN, UH, I CAN BACK THAT UP AND I CAN CITE MY SOURCE.

UM, UM, SO, UM, I, I SEE IT KIND OF REAL TIME, SO THAT'S WHY IT WAS SO CERTAIN CENTRIC.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR OUR, UH, UH, I, I THINK HE'S CALLED THE DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY.

I DON'T KNOW HIS TITLE, BUT A TOY, OUR, OUR FRIEND OVER THERE WROTE US A LETTER AND SAID, HEY, HOLD ON, TAKE A LOOK.

AND WE TOOK THAT VERY SERIOUSLY, AND WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT HOW IT WAS TOO CERT CENTERED, AND LIKE I SAID, WE DEIFIED IT.

UH, UH, THE WHOLE CONTEXT

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WAS CERT.

NOW IT'S JUST PART OF THE CONTENT.

IT'S JUST ONE OF THE CONTENTS.

IT'S, IT'S STILL IN THERE.

AND IT, I TRULY BELIEVE IT NEEDS TO STAY IN THERE, BUT IT'S NOT THE WHOLE LETTER.

AND, UH, UH, I LOOK FORWARD TO FEEDBACK, UH, EITHER IN WRITING OR, OR, OR, OR, OR TURN YOUR LITTLE BLUE LIGHT, A GREEN LIGHT ON.

AND TELL US WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THE, UH, UH, THE SEVEN PAGE THING WE HAD DOWN TO, UH, THE TWO AND A HALF PAGE THING.

YOU, YOU HAVE ANY FEEDBACK FOR, UM, THE BEFORE AND AFTER? NO, I THINK THIS, THIS DEFINITELY IS, IS NOW ALIGNED UNDER THE, THE UMBRELLA OF EHRC.

SO, SO I SEE THAT IT, TO ME, IT'S JUST A STRONGER NEXUS.

I THINK PREVIOUSLY BEFORE THE WAY THAT YOU COULD READ IT, IT, I THINK, UH, A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC COULD BE LIKE, HEY, THIS, THIS MIGHT BE SOMETHING MORE APPROPRIATE FOR A DIFFERENT BODY.

SO I THINK, I THINK YOU, THE COMMISSION DID A BETTER JOB, UH, FOR FORMULATING THAT NEXUS.

SO I THINK, UH, I DON'T REALLY SEE ANY, ANY, ANY ISSUES AS AS IT IS RIGHT NOW.

UH, UH, HAVE IT AVAILABLE FOR ANYBODY ON THAT HOC COMMITTEE.

IN, IN, AND, AND AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, I HAVE NOT HAD TIME TO GO THROUGH THIS LETTER, SO I'M ASKING QUESTIONS KIND OF MAYBE OFF.

UM, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING FOR THIS AD HOC COMMITTEE WAS ABOUT IN EQUITY IN EMERGENCY SERVICES ACROSS THE ENTIRE CITY, WHETHER IT BE NORTH LONG BEACH OR WHETHER IT BE ON THE PENINSULA.

SURE.

UM, AND SO, UM, I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE NOT MAKING THE DECISION.

I NEED TO GO OVER THIS AND MAYBE GET IN TOUCH AND WELL, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ON THE AD HOC COMMITTEE, , SO, BUT I WAS, YOU YOU DID, WE WE'RE, WE'RE DEFINITELY GONNA CONTINUE TO MASSAGE THIS.

WE'RE JUST AT A POINT NOW TO WHERE WE TOOK THE CITY ATTORNEYS.

I, I DON'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF.

WE TOOK THE CITY ATTORNEY'S ADVICE AND NOW WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO AD HOC AND MAKE THIS MORE BETTER.

AND, AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO ADDRESS ABOUT AD HOC COMMITTEES IS, YOU KNOW, YOU CANNOT HAVE AD HOC COMMITTEES.

AND IT'S LIKE DAY AFTER DAY AFTER DAY IN ONE WEEK.

THAT DOESN'T WORK FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.

AND I'VE, I'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY MANAGEMENT.

UM, WE'VE GOT TO GIVE PEOPLE TIME TO, TO, THIS IS NOT THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE INVOLVED IN THAT WE DO.

AND, AND, YOU KNOW, I, I WAS OUTTA TOWN FOR AN ENTIRE WEEK AND THERE WAS STUFF GOING ON, AND I JUST GOT HOME YESTERDAY AND CATCHING UP ON ALL THIS AND TRYING TO GET TO THIS MEETING AND BEING PREPARED.

AND THERE WERE MULTIPLE MEETINGS THERE, SESSIONS THAT WERE HAPPENING, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST AT THE END OF THE WEEK OF LAST WEEK.

AND, AND, AND THAT'S HARD FOR SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE JOBS OR HAVE OTHER OBLIGATIONS.

THAT'S NOT YOUR, YOUR YOUR FAULT.

UM, I JUST WANT TO BE PRESENT AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I KNOW WHEN I COME TO THIS COMMISSION MEETING THAT I HAVE ALL THE KNOWLEDGE AND I'M PREPARED FOR THIS MEETING.

AND, AND WHEN THERE'S MULTIPLE AD HOC COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, COMMITTEE MEETINGS, UM, ONE RIGHT AFTER THE OTHER, UM, IT'S HARD TO KEEP UP WITH THE, THE, THE, THE EMAIL CHAINS AND THEN WHAT SURE.

I I WHAT ALL OF THAT IS INVOLVED.

AND ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE COMING BACK AFTER BEING GONE FOR A WEEK AND YOU'RE LIKE, OKAY, WHAT'S THE LATEST NEWS? , WHAT'S THE LATEST NEWS? I TRY TO STAY OFF AS MANY AD HOCS AS I CAN, .

AND WE HAD SOME HARD OUTS.

THAT'S HARD.

WE HAD SOME HARD OUTS.

SO THEY WERE VERY SHORT MEETINGS.

AND IT'S LIKE, WE DID SOME EDITING LAST WEEK, AND WE WERE JUST, WE WERE JUST SO CLOSE WE HAD TO GET OFF.

CAN WE JUST, CAN WE JUST SPEND ANOTHER HALF HOUR JUST REORGANIZING, UH, UH, UH, WHAT WAS DONE? LISTEN, I, I, THIS IS PROBABLY THE, I I'VE NEVER BEEN IN TWO AD HOCS IN, IN ONE WEEK.

UM, IT WAS, IT WAS JUST A RUSH TO GET THIS LETTER IN FRONT OF THIS COMMISSION FOR MORE FEEDBACK, THINKING ABOUT NOT WANTING TO HAND IT OVER AFTER THE NEXT TWO DISASTERS EXPECTED BEFORE JANUARY.

SO, UH, UH, IT, IT WAS A SINCERE EFFORT TO, TO TAKE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S ADVICE, PUT AN EQUITY LENS ON IT, UH, UM,

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AND NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE THERE.

BUT NOW WE'RE GETTING FEEDBACK TONIGHT, AND WE COULD TAKE IT BACK, HOPEFULLY, TO JUST ONE MORE AD HOC MEETING.

MAY, MAY I ASK, WELL, WELL SCHEDULED IN ADVANCE, UH, TO HAVE A, A MEETING FOR, UM, TO HAVE IT READY FOR NEXT.

ARE THESE QUEUE UP? OH, I DIDN'T, COMMISSIONER.

JUST, YEAH.

ALSO JUST, UH, COMMISSIONER DOCKERY, VERY VALID POINT.

I THINK YOU, YOU TOUCHED ON SOME OF THE, THE PREMISE OF WHAT, WHY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

WE USUALLY HAVE THAT POLICY OF LIKE RECOMMENDING, YOU KNOW, UH, EVERY BO EVERY BODY OR BOARD NOT CREATE TOO MANY AD HOCS AT THE SAME TIME.

BECAUSE OF THAT, THAT ISSUE AS WELL AS THE RECOMMENDATION FOR, UH, COMMISSIONERS JUST TO BE MINDFUL OF NOT, UH, COMMITTING THEMSELVES TO TOO MANY, UH, TOO MANY AD HOCS BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, IT CAN, IT CAN BE OVERWHELMING WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER'S OWN, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE LIVES AND O OTHER THINGS GOING ON.

UM, WE USUALLY JUST TRY TO REMIND THE, THE COMMISSIONERS OR, OR IF IT'S A BOARD, JUST THE MEMBERS.

UM, JUST ALWAYS BE MINDFUL OF THE, THE AD HOC THAT YOU JOIN BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THERE IS THE EXPECTATION THAT YOU PARTICIPATE, UH, IN ORDER FOR THE AD HOC TO BE, UM, YOU KNOW, FRUITFUL OR, OR, OR TO, TO REALLY BE EFFECTIVE.

ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK THAT PERHAPS, UH, WE COULD TALK TO, TO STAFF, UH, UH, MAYBE A RECOMMENDATION JUST TO HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER ITEM THAT WANTS TO BE SHARED, PERHAPS JUST BE SUBMITTED A LITTLE BIT EARLIER AND THAT WAY IT COULD BE SHARED ACROSS THE, THE BOARD, UH, MAYBE JUST MORE ADDITIONAL TIME FOR THE COMMISSIONER.

SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING, UH, FOOD FOR THOUGHT.

CAN I, COMMISSIONER, JUST STEP IN REAL QUICK.

COMMISSIONER COLE IS UP AND I'LL NOTE I NOTICED THERE'S ALSO THREE PEOPLE WHO ARE QUEUED UP ON THE PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEM.

AND SO IF YOU ARE INTENDING TO SPEAK ON THIS ONE, QUEUE UP UNDER ITEM THREE, BUT COMMISSIONER COLE, OVER TO YOU.

'CAUSE I THOUGHT I WAS, AND THEN I WASN'T.

UM, JUST FROM LIKE A BIGGER PICTURE, UM, FROM AN AD HOC PERSPECTIVE, WE HAVE MULTIPLE MEMBERS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ALWAYS AVAILABLE.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, I WASN'T PREPARED LAST MONTH.

UM, 'CAUSE I KNEW MY MEMBERS ON THE A HOC TEAM WERE WORKING ON IT, AND THEY WOULD MAKE THE PRESENTATION AND I'D CATCH UP.

SO I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS GO AROUND TO WORK ON IT AND WORK ON THE LETTER.

AND SO I DID JUMP IN BECAUSE I WAS AVAILABLE.

AND I THINK THE WAY THESE THINGS WORK, WE WANT TO SPREAD THINGS OUT, BUT THE REALITY IS THERE IS MOST LIKELY OR POTENTIALLY GOING TO BE A FLURRY OF ACTIVITY BEFORE THE MEETING, BECAUSE WE ONLY MEET ONCE A MONTH.

NOT TO EXCLUDE ANYONE, BUT IN ORDER TO KEEP MOVING THINGS FORWARD, SOMETIMES THINGS MOVE, SEEM TO MOVE FORWARD QUICKLY RIGHT BEFORE THE MEETING BECAUSE OUR TIME IS SO LIMITED.

BUT WE ARE INCLUSIVE AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL ABOUT.

BUT WE'RE ALSO SO PASSIONATE ABOUT MOVING THESE ISSUES FORWARD.

SO I'M HOPING THAT MAKES THIS COMMISSIONER FEEL A LITTLE BETTER.

MM-HMM.

UM, I, I HAVE TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF THE BLAME FOR PUSHING THIS BECAUSE, UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED IMMEDIATELY.

WE ARE HERE IN NOVEMBER, WE'RE OUT IN DECEMBER, AND THEN WE'RE BACK IN JANUARY AND EL NINO'S COMING.

AND WE SAW WHAT HAPPENED ALREADY AT THE PENINSULA.

THAT'S WHY WE REALLY DID WORK HARD TO PUSH THIS, AND WE REALLY WANTED TO DO IT TONIGHT AND HAVE THEM THE, EVERYBODY APPROVE THE LETTER TONIGHT.

AND THAT JUST WASN'T ABLE TO HAPPEN.

BUT WE HAVE TO REALLY PUSH THIS FOR NOVEMBER TO GET IT IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE OF THE TIMELINE.

IT, IT REALLY WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT, IT'S SEEN AND, AND, AND MOVED AHEAD BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, CITY COUNCIL, AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, UH, RUNS LIKE BACKWARDS.

IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S A VERY SLOW, SLOW TRAIN.

AND SO ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE IT, UM, MOVE A LITTLE QUICKER THROUGH THE SYSTEM, THAT'S BETTER FOR US.

AND IT'S BETTER FOR THE CITY OF LONG BEACH OVERALL.

COMMISSIONER BROWN? UM, I SAW KIANA.

WAIT, COMMISSIONER? NO.

IT WAS THE OLD HAND.

AND THEN COMMISSIONER BUTLER, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT YOU WANTED TO MAKE OR? NO, I THINK, NO.

ROBBIE, YOU HAVE ANYTHING? OKAY.

AT OUR PERSONAL SCHEDULES AND OUR TIME COMMITMENTS BEFORE WE COMMIT TO SERVING ON THE VARIOUS COMMITTEES HERE.

I, I DIDN'T REALLY HAVE MY HAND UP, BUT I, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD, OFFER THIS, YOU KNOW, ALL OF US ARE HERE TRYING TO MAKE AN IMPACT, TRYING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE, UH, UM, BY PARTICIPATING ON THE AD HOC COMMITTEES AS WELL AS THE COMMITTEE IN GENERAL AND ALL TO ALL OF THE POINTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TONIGHT, I THINK THEY'RE ALL VERY VIABLE POINTS.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK

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UNDERSTANDING THAT IT DOES REQUIRE OUR TIME AND OUR ATTENTION, AND IT'S OKAY TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS SOMETIMES.

UM, AND I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT THE AD HOCS THAT I SIT ON, FOR EXAMPLE, I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO HAVE INPUT AT EVERY MEETING, BUT I CAN CALL OTHER MEMBERS OF THE AD HOC OR, OR MAKE SURE THAT I GET THE INFORMATION SO THAT I DON'T FEEL LEFT OUT.

AND SO THAT IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT I NEED TO CONTRIBUTE, I CAN DO IT HOPEFULLY IN AS TIMELY OF A MANNER AS I CAN.

I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WANNA FEEL THAT WE ARE, ARE, ARE COMING UP SHORT IN OUR RESPONSIBILITIES.

AND TO COMMISSIONER DOCKERY'S POINT, UM, WHEN THINGS ARE MOVING REALLY FAST, IT CAN BE OVERWHELMING SOMETIMES.

IT, IT REALLY CAN, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S A LOT OF PAPERWORK INVOLVED.

AND I PERSONALLY HAVE BEEN IN THAT SITUATION BEFORE, YOU KNOW, NEEDING TO REVIEW THESE DOCUMENTS BEFORE THE MEETING AND FEELING LIKE I DIDN'T HAVE SUFFICIENT TIME TO DO IT, BUT STILL WANTING TO, TO MAKE AN IMPACT ON THE MEETING, STILL WANTING TO BE, UH, A PARTICIPANT, YOU KNOW, IN THE DISCUSSION, SO ON AND SO FORTH.

SO, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANY DEFINITE, UH, A RESOLUTION TO, TO THIS OTHER THAN JUST DO THE BEST YOU CAN.

I THINK THAT'S ALL YOU CAN DO.

JUST DO THE BEST YOU CAN.

SO, IN, IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I DO WANNA SEE IF THERE'S ANY FEEDBACK ON THE LINE ITEM RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, WITHIN THE LETTER ITSELF.

UM, I THINK THE AD HOC REALLY ROBUST DISCUSSION, I DO THINK THERE'S STUFF WE CAN LEARN ABOUT PROCESS.

THINGS LIKE TEMPLATIZING SOME OF OUR LETTERS SO IT'S EASIER TO PLUG AND PLAY IN FORMAT.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COMMISSIONER MONTGOMERY RAISED.

I THINK WE CAN DEFINITELY DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

UM, AND TO THE POINT OF, UH, COMMISSIONER DOCKERY AND, AND TO ALL OF US, RIGHT? LIKE THIS, UM, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THIS COMMISSION ARE HERE BECAUSE THEY CARE ABOUT THE CITY AND DO A LOT OF THINGS.

AND IT'S A BLESSING AND A CURSE, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO HOPEFULLY ARE CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE GROUND, HAVE EXPERTISE IN ENOUGH THINGS THAT WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

AND ALSO WE ARE PULLED IN EVERY DIRECTION BECAUSE WE CARE.

AND SO I DO WANNA EXTEND A LOT OF APPRECIATION TO ALL OF YOU FOR THE SPIRIT DISCUSSION ON THE PROCESS OF MOVING THIS FORWARD.

ANY FINAL PIECES OF FEEDBACK ON THE CONTENT OF THE LETTER ITSELF? UM, SO THE AD HOC COMMITTEE HAS WHAT THEY NEED PROBABLY IN ONE LAST MEETING BETWEEN NOW AND NOVEMBER.

UM, AND I DO COMMIT TO ADDING THIS ON THE, ON THE AGENDA IN NOVEMBER.

UM, SO THEY HAVE WHAT THEY NEED TO ACTUALLY UPDATE IT.

UM, SO ANY, ANY CONTENT FEEDBACK THAT REMAINS THAT HAS NOT BEEN RAISED YET, I CAN OFFER SOMETHING THAT, YES.

UH, SO ON THAT FIRST BULLET POINT, UH, ASSESS EQUITY AND ACCESSIBILITY AND EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS, ET CETERA.

IF YOU HAVE, UM, BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT TIME THE AD HOC COMMITTEE MEETS A SPECIFIC PROTOCOL FRAMEWORK FROM ANOTHER CITY OR ANOTHER SIMILAR ENTITY THAT HAS BEEN PROVEN EFFECTIVE, UM, I THINK THAT COULD MAKE THAT MORE ROBUST.

AND I ONLY SAY THAT BECAUSE IF WE MOVE THIS FORWARD, WHICH IS FINE, WE CAN MOVE THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, IF IT ENDS UP BEING BEING AS IS, BUT, BUT THEN IT'S UP FOR REALLY INTERPRETATION, RIGHT? IN TERMS OF HOW DO WE ASSESS EQUITY, WHAT DO WE MEAN BY ACCESSIBILITY? WHAT, AND THEN WHEN YOU, IF YOU WERE TO LEAD THAT IN WITH THAT AND SAY USING X PROTOCOL, THEN IT BECOMES CONCRETE, RIGHT? UM, SO THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION TO AD HOC IS LOOKING FOR SOMETHING VERY SPECIFIC AND CONCRETE, OR IF NOTHING EX I'D, I'D IMAGINE SOMETHING EXISTS, BUT IF NOTHING EXISTS, ACTUALLY CREATE, LIKE SPECIFYING WHAT WE YOU'RE DOING.

I THINK THAT, UH, THAT COULD MAKE THAT JUST ALL THE MORE SPECIFIC.

COMMISSIONER WALKER.

TO THE REDUCTION, UM, TO MAKE IT MORE OF A STRONGER, UM, ASK.

ANY OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS? SPEAK NOW OR I HAVE RECOMMENDATION WHO, WHO WAS IT? OH, HEY, .

UM, SO, UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME COMMISSIONERS TO, UM, COMPLETE THE RECOMMENDATION LETTER.

I FEEL, UM, THE ONLY YOU KNOW, CONCRETE DATA THAT I SEE IS THAT THE, THAT THERE'S A 66% REDUCTION IN CT PROGRAM STAFFING.

AND I'M WONDERING IF THERE IS SOME WAY WE CAN ADD ADDITIONAL DATA IF THERE IS ANY DATA THAT WE CAN ADD IN REGARDS TO THE REDUCTION IN, LIKE, RESPONSES TO ANY TYPE OF EMERGENCY, UM, DUE

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BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT'S, THIS IS GOING TO LEAD UP TO MAYBE A RECOMMENDATION TO, FOR ADDITIONAL DOLLARS, FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR THE CERT PROGRAM.

UM, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I MEAN, I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER WAY THAT THE CITY COULD POTENTIALLY, UM, IF THEY HAVEN'T ALREADY ADDRESSED HOW THEY'RE GOING TO, UM, CONTINUE TO KEEP THE SAME AMOUNT OF, UM, SERVICES WITH THE REDUCTION.

UM, UNLESS YOU GUYS KNOW MORE, MORE THAN I DO.

'CAUSE I DON'T SEE THAT THERE'S ANY CONCRETE ASK WITHIN, EVEN THOUGH THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, THERE'S NOT LIKE A CONCRETE ASK, RIGHT? WE, I CAN HELP ANSWER THAT.

WE HAD, UM, BUDGETARY CONSIDERATIONS IN THE FIRST EDITION OF THE LETTER MM-HMM .

UM, AND WE WERE TOLD TO TAKE THOSE OUT BECAUSE THE BOTTOM LINE IS 2020 SEVEN'S ALREADY DONE.

SO THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO TELL CITY COUNCIL TO GIVE US MORE MONEY FOR ANY OF THESE PROGRAMS GOING FORWARD.

ALL WE CAN DO IS MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION.

THIS WILL ALSO, BESIDES GOES TO CITY COUNCIL, WILL ALSO GO TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

COMMISSIONER BROWN FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

AND THEY, WITHIN THEIR OWN DEPARTMENT, CAN ALLOCATE THE FUNDS THAT THEY RECEIVED FROM THE CITY TO DO WHAT THEY WENT WITH.

SO THEY CAN ALLOCATE AND SAY, WE NEED TO PUT ANOTHER PERSON IN C WITHIN THE EXISTING FUNDS BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT 2027.

THERE'S, WE'RE ALREADY IN THE HOLE AND THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE CAN DO ABOUT IT.

WE, THAT WAS ADDRESSED IN THE, THE VERY FIRST MEETINGS THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.

WE HAVE TO TAKE THE BUDGET CONSIDERATIONS OUT BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT AT THIS POINT.

THANK YOU COMM.

COMMISSIONER COLE, I WAS JUST SEMI THINKING OUT LOUD.

SO FOR THE RECENT DISASTER AT THE PENINSULA WITH THE, THE FLOODING AND DESTRUCTION OF PROPERTY, UM, THERE'S AN AREA WHERE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SETS UP AND THE VOLUNTEERS GO.

AND NORMALLY THERE WOULD BE LIKE 24 VOLUNTEERS.

AND I THINK THERE WERE POSSIBLY NONE BECAUSE LIKE, I DIDN'T EVEN GET A CALL TO VOLUNTEER AND CHRIS, UH, COUNCIL PERSON DUGGAN WAS THERE AND, UH, CAPTAIN HEFLIN WAS THERE AND THERE WERE VERY FEW PEOPLE THERE, BUT THEY WOULD KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE THERE.

LIKE, CAN THAT BE A DATA POINT IS LIKE, HERE'S A VERY SPECIFIC EXAMPLE.

INSTEAD OF 40 PEOPLE, WE HAD SIX KIND OF A THING WE COULD ASK THAT.

'CAUSE I KNOW THEY REMEMBER .

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER COLE.

ANYBODY ELSE? WELL, I'M, I'M, I'M GLAD THAT, UH, THAT UH, THAT, UH, A MAJORITY OF YOU HAVE, UH, SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT IT, UH, AND ARE PARTICIPATING AND THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT OF US ARE HERE TODAY.

Y'ALL SHUT UP FOR PHOTO DAY .

UM, SO, UH, I'LL, I'LL HAND IT BACK OVER TO, UH, CHAIR, UH, DEION TO, UH, TO, TO CLOSE THIS OUT.

I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S FEEDBACK.

UM, THIS WAS VERY ROBUST.

UH, I THINK OUR NEXT STEP IS WE'LL HAVE TO SCHEDULE A MEETING, UM, FOR THE A ANOTHER MEETING.

YAY.

WE WILL AIM FOR JUST ONE.

I THINK THAT'S THE GOAL.

ONE MEETING.

ONE MEETING, YEAH.

UM, GET THIS BUTTONED UP.

UM, AND THEN, UM, I HAVE AUTHORSHIP OF THE AGENDA FOR NEXT MONTH.

I WILL PUT THIS ON.

UM, AND SO WE WILL COVER THIS AND WRAP IT IN NOVEMBER, IS THE GOAL.

UM, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

LET'S GO AHEAD.

CITY CLERK AND MOVES FORWARD.

CAN I ASK OH YEAH, GO FOR IT.

SURE.

SO SHOULD WE ENGAGE OUR COUNCIL PEOPLE AND THE MAYOR BEFORE WE COME UP WITH THIS FINAL LETTER AND LET THEM KNOW THIS LETTER IS COMING, OR WAIT UNTIL THIS LETTER IS FINALIZED? I DON'T THINK WE CAN SPEAK AS COMMISSIONERS TO, UH, OUR LEADERS UNTIL WE'VE VOTED ADJUDICATED THE, UM, THE AGENDA ITEM, WHICH WOULD MEAN APPROVING THE LETTER.

CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

THAT THAT'S CORRECT.

UH, COMMISSIONER SCHULTZ.

SO THE, THE AD HOC WOULD REPORT BACK TO THE COMMISSION AS A WHOLE, UH, AS, AS A FULL BODY, UH, YOU, YOU GUYS WOULD, WOULD MAKE A DECISION AT THAT TIME.

HEY, IS THIS LETTER, THE, THE FINAL VERSION? IT, IT, IT'S APPROVED, UH, FOR, UH, TRANSMITTAL OVER TO COUNSEL TO SEE IF THEY'LL TAKE IT UP.

AND SO THAT WOULD, WE WOULD APPROVE THIS IN NOVEMBER.

YES, WE WOULD.

WE GREAT.

BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE GOAL, MY COUNCIL PERSON ON A REGULAR BASIS AND I DON'T WANNA SAY SOMETHING THAT I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO SAY, SO YOU WOULD NEVER DO THAT.

OH, HAVE YOU MET HIM? JUST FIVE MORE AD HOCS WORKING AND WE'LL, WE'LL BE THERE.

THAT, UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND PASS CITY CLERK, UH, FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN WE CAN CALL FOR THE VOTE.

WITH

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AT THIS TIME, IF ANYBODY IN THE ZOOM MEETING WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE USE THE RAISED HAND FEATURE S SEEING NUN CHAIR.

THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND READ THE NEXT ITEM OR, YEAH, I GUESS WE VOTE FOR THE STEPHEN FILE COMMISSIONERS BROWN ESTES.

COMMISSIONER BUTLER? YES.

WE CAN DO A ROLL CALL VOTE THEN CHAIR.

IS THAT OKAY? OKAY.

GO FOR IT.

COMMISSIONER BROWN.

COMMISSIONER DOCKERY? YES.

COMMISSIONER ESTES? YES.

COMMISSIONER FLORES? YES.

COMMISSIONER COLE? YES.

COMMISSIONER LAUDER? YES.

COMMISSIONER MONTGOMERY? YES.

COMMISSIONER SAMWELL? YES.

VICE CHAIR SCHULTZ? YES.

CHAIR DE LEON? YES.

ALRIGHT, UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR BEARING WITH, UH, UH, FLEXIBILITY THERE.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM.

ITEM FOUR IS THE RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A REPORT FROM CURRENT AD HOC COMMITTEES.

DISCUSS ANTICIPATED AD HOC COMMITTEES FOR UPCOMING PROJECTS, AND IF APPROPRIATE, TAKE ACTION TO DISSOLVE OR CREATE AD HOC COMMITTEES.

AND THEN I THINK WE'LL TAKE A VERBAL MOTION VOTE OR IS IT OKAY STILL?

[4. 26-56365 Recommendation to receive and file a report from current Ad Hoc Committees; discuss anticipated Ad Hoc Committees for upcoming projects; and, if appropriate, take action to dissolve or create Ad Hoc Committees. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

LET'S TRY IT.

OH, THERE WE GO.

I CAN, I CAN START THIS OFF WITH THE, UH, UM, THE AD HOC ON EMERGENCY DISASTER AND EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS PREPAREDNESS AD HOC.

UH, WE'RE GOOD.

UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND PASS TO THE INDIGENOUS ENGAGEMENT AD HOC COMMISSIONERS, ESTES FLORES AND BROWN, IF WHOEVER'S READY TO SHARE.

UH, SURE.

SO, UH, WE ARE IN TALKS WITH, UH, THE DIFFERENT TRIBAL NATIONS THAT COME TALK AT OUR AD HOC.

UM, AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE GOT SO FAR.

WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY BIG UPDATES, BUT UM, I'M SURE AFTER NEXT MONTH WE WILL.

AWESOME.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, AND THEN WHAT WE WANTED TO ALSO DO IS, AS FOLKS KNOW, WE HAVE OUR NEXT LISTING SESSIONS COMING UP.

I THINK THIS IS ALL THE, ACTUALLY HOLD ON, LET ME STOP THERE.

THIS IS ALL THE CURRENT AD HOCS ARE NOT MISSING ANY, RIGHT? YOU DISSOLVED ALL OTHERS.

UM, SO WE WANNA, UM, ALSO RAISE THE IDEA OF US GETTING THE LISTENING SESSIONS READY FOR, UM, THE NEXT PERIOD.

WE HAVE TWO MORE LEFT.

UM, SO MAYBE IF I COULD PASS TO TONY TO SHARE LIKE, KIND OF WHERE WE ARE IN THE LISTENING SESSION PROGRESS, AND THEN WE CAN SEE WHO ALSO HAS PRE-SIGNED UP FOR THESE AND VERIFY IF YOU STILL WANNA BE PART OF THEM.

YES, ABSOLUTELY.

SO, UH, SO FAR YOU'VE COMPLETED THREE OUT OF THE FIVE LISTENING SESSIONS THAT YOU ALL AGREED TO, UH, FACILITATING BACK IN MAY OF 2024.

UM, AND THEN UP, UP NEXT ON THE LIST WE HAVE A HEALTH CARE ACCESS AND QUALITY.

UM, THAT'S THE THEME, UH, AND TOPIC OF THE NEXT LISTENING SESSION.

AND, UM, THE, THE COMMISSIONERS WHO SIGNED UP TO BE, TO LEAD THE PLANNING OF THIS, UH, AGAIN BACK IN MAY, 2024.

SO THINGS MAY CHANGE, UH, WERE SEMI WHILE, BUT LAUREN DOCKERY.

SO, UM, BRING IT BACK TO YOU CHAIR TO SEE IF YOU WANT TO CREATE THIS AD HOC AND SEE WHO HAS, UM, CAPACITY TO, TO, TO SIT ON THAT.

UM, LET US KNOW WHO WE CAN SUPPORT.

SO I WANNA ACTUALLY CHECK WITH COMMISSIONER S WEILL BUTLER AND DOCKERY.

UM, ARE YOU ALL STILL INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING IN HEALTHCARE ACCESS AND QUALITY LISTENING SESSION? THIS WOULD NOT BE FOR NEXT MONTH, DON'T WORRY.

THIS BE FOR NEXT QUARTER.

UM, SO SOMETIME IN JANUARY, FEBRUARY, OR MARCH OF 2027.

UM, SO LEMME JUST CHECK WITH YOU WHILE EACH WEEK REAL QUICK IF YOU'RE STILL INTERESTED.

AND THEN WE'LL SEE IF ANYONE WANTS TO JOIN.

BUT WHOEVER'S READY, YES.

COMMISSIONER DOCKERY IS IN EITHER OF YOU TWO.

SO, UM, UM, I RECENTLY LOST MY FATHER, SO I'M KIND OF TAKING CARE OF MY MOM.

UM, SO I'M SPENDING MORE TIME THERE.

UM, SO UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T KNOW AT THIS TIME WHERE MY CAPACITY IS.

UM, DO I HAVE TO TELL YOU NOW? I DO IN THE DEEP, YOU KNOW, DEEPEST OF MY HEART.

I DO WANNA PARTICIPATE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ABLE TO, TO BE HONEST.

YEAH, THAT'S COMPLETELY FINE.

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LET'S TALK AFTER, BUT NO PRESSURE AT ALL TO JOIN AND WE CAN ALWAYS RE-ADD PEOPLE TO AD HOCS AT ANY POINT, UM, BETWEEN MEETINGS.

UM, SO I THINK WE MAY WANT TO HAVE SOMEONE ELSE WHO'S INTERESTED POTENTIALLY, UM, STEP IN, UH, UH, TO BACKFILL COMMISSIONER SEMI WILD SLOT.

BUT COMMISSIONER PERLER, ARE YOU INTERESTED IN BEING THIS ONE STILL? SORRY, REPEAT THAT QUESTION.

OH, DO YOU, DO YOU STILL WANT TO BE IN THE, UH, HEALTHCARE ACCESS AND QUALITY LISTENING SESSION, AD HOC, THE NAME OF IT AGAIN? UH, HEALTHCARE ACCESS AND QUALITY LISTENING SESSION.

GREAT.

IT IS OKAY IF THE ANSWER IS NO.

UM, WELL I DO THINK THERE IS SPACE IF ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO JOIN THIS AD HOC.

UM, AND I THINK HEALTHCARE ACCESS AND QUALITY IS MUCH MORE EXPANSIVE THAN JUST DOCTORS, RIGHT? SO WE CAN THINK ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

ANYONE ELSE WHO IS INTERESTED IN JOINING THAT AD HOC? UM, I'M ACTUALLY, I DIDN'T QUEUE UP TO VOLUNTEER FOR THIS AD HOC, BUT I DID WANNA MENTION IF IT HELPS THE AD HOC, UH, COMMITTEE WITH, UH, THE PRIOR AD HOC, WHICH WAS ON EDUCATION WE USED, UM, ON OUR AGENDA.

I CREATED, UM, A FRAMEWORK FOR PLANNING, UM, THAT YOU ARE MORE THAN, UH, TONY HAS ACCESS TO IT IF YOU FIND IT HELPFUL.

I THINK THAT HELPS FOR EFFECTIVE PLANNING.

UH, THE OTHER RECOMMENDATION IS WE WENT FROM JUNE TO SEPTEMBER IN PLANNING.

WE THOUGHT WE, THAT WAS PLENTY OF TIME AND IT ENDED UP BEING A GREAT SESSION.

BUT IF YOU CAN, I WOULD SAY SPEND LONGER BECAUSE ONE OF THE BIGGEST HURDLES IS HEARING BACK FROM FOLKS, UH, WHETHER THEY CAN OR CAN'T AND THEY'RE FOLLOWING UP.

AND, AND THAT THAT TAKES A LOT TIME.

SO IF YOU CAN SPEND PROB, UH, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, EVEN MORE THAN THREE MONTHS, 'CAUSE WE THOUGHT THREE MONTHS WAS GONNA BE ENOUGH.

UM, NOT TO RAISE MORE CONCERNS OR ANYTHING.

I'M JUST TRYING TO KIND OF GIVE MY LESSONS HERE THAT I LEARNED IN THE, IN THE LAST, UH, THREE MONTHS.

AND THEN I THINK THOSE WERE THE TWO ONES.

SO JUST THE FRAMEWORK, UH, REALLY HELPED.

AND THEN, UH, ALLOWING ENOUGH OF A RUNWAY AND ALSO I THINK ON THE DAY OF, AND IT JUST KIND OF CAME TOGETHER ORGANICALLY, BUT I THINK, UM, BUT IT WORKED JUST HAVING THE PROTOCOL FOR PRESENTING THE BIOS AND THE PROCESS AND WHO'S SPEAKING WHEN REALLY CREATE FOR FLOW AND THAT THAT'S ITSELF IN A FRAMEWORK.

AND I THINK ALL THOSE TOOLS ARE ALREADY THERE.

SO IF Y'ALL JUST WANNA BORROW THEM AND USE IT FOR HEALTH, GO FOR IT.

RIGHT.

WE ALSO HAD A BUNCH OF EMAILS MM-HMM .

THAT WE ALL SHARED THAT REALLY HELPED US GET RESPONSES.

SO HAPPY TO LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE THEM ALL, BUT HAPPY TO COMPILE THEM OR SUMMARIZE THEM OR HELP THAT WAY.

IS ANYBODY ELSE INTERESTED IN JOINING THIS AD HOC? I THINK IF NOT, I'LL JOIN IT AND THEN THAT'LL BE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION, UM, TO FORM A HEALTHCARE ACCESS AND QUALITY AD HOC COMPRISE OF COMMISSIONERS, BUTLER, DOCKERY AND DE LEON, WHICH WILL NEED TO BE ACCEPTED BY COMMISSIONERS BUTLER AND SCHULTZ TO BE ADDED, IF THAT'S CORRECT.

WAIT, WHAT? I'M GONNA, YOU NOT MEAN NOTHING.

WHAT? OH NO, YOU'RE THE, YOU'RE THE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE THE SECONDER SO YOU HAVE TO APPROVE THE THE AMENDMENT.

I, I, I, BUT, BUT COMMISSIONER BROTHER HAS TO FIRST OKAY.

SO ANSWER'S YES AND YES ON APPROVING THE, A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO CREATE IT.

WE SET THE AMENDMENT TO YOUR MOTION.

THAT DUDE SAKE.

THE MOTION.

YEAH, YOU MADE THE MOTION .

AND, AND I, AND I, UH, I, I APPROVED THE AMENDMENT.

I ACCEPT, I ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT.

INCREDIBLE.

I ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT.

AND THEN, UM, WHILE WE'RE ON THIS TOPIC, WE ALSO WERE TALKING KIND OF, UM, UH, MR. SCHULTZ, TONY AND I ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE'VE DONE A LOT ALREADY OVER THE LAST FEW LISTENING SESSIONS.

AND THERE MAY BE VALUE IN STARTING THE SYNTHESIS AD HOC SOONER THAN WHEN WE FINISH FIVE, RIGHT? WE'RE ALREADY GETTING INFORMATION.

MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO KIND OF, UH, GET THIS STUFF, GET SOME PEOPLE TO START TO LOOK BACK ON THE LAST THREE WHILE WE PREPARE THE FINAL TWO.

UM, SO TONY, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY WHO HAD SIGNED UP FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT BEFORE? UM, IF NOT, WE CAN SEE IF THERE'S A GROUP THAT WANTS TO BE A PART OF THAT.

I KNOW WE HAVE SOME RESEARCHERS IN THE ROOM, SO I, I WANNA TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.

WELL, WE DO NOT HAVE, WE DO NOT.

THAT WHEN WE FINISH THE LAST TWO, WE'RE NOT STARTING FROM ZERO ON THE CLOSEOUT REPORT.

SO IS THERE ANYONE AT THIS TIME WHO WOULD BE INTERESTED IN JOINING A LIKE SYNTHESIS AD HOC? THIS WOULD PROBABLY LOOK VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE, UM, THE, THE PLANNING FORWARD VERSION THAT'S LISTENING SESSION.

INSTEAD, IT WOULD BE YOU ALL PROBABLY MEETING ONCE A MONTH OR WHATEVER YOU DECIDE ON TO LOOK BACK AT THE MATERIALS AND JUST START TO PULL OUT THEMES, UM, SO

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UM, SO I WANT TO GET US AHEAD OF THEM THERE.

SO ANY PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THAT CONCEPT? COMMISSIONER COLE? I KNEW YES.

I I WANTED YOU TO BE GOOD.

SOME PEOPLE ARE LEANING BACK AND FEEL LEANING FORWARD, SO MAKING A BAD HOC .

UM, ANYONE ELSE WHO'S INTERESTED IN THIS ONE? WE DO NEED MORE THAN ONE, OTHERWISE IT WILL NOT EXIST.

ANYONE ELSE? NO ONE WANTS TO MAKE EYE CONTACT WITH ME.

JOHN HAS A LOT OF GREAT INFORMATION.

, UM, I'LL JOIN.

I HAVE TOO MANY MEETINGS.

RICKY, YOU DON'T WANT, I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS TOO.

I'LL JOIN THIS ONE AS WELL.

UM, WE'RE OKAY IF WE HAVE JUST TWO PEOPLE, RIGHT? YES.

CAN YOU, CAN YOU REPEAT WHO THE MEMBERS ARE? UH, COLE AND DEION FOR NOW.

AND AS WE ROLL OFF, WE'RE GONNA KEEP ADDING.

SO I HOPE THAT OUR GROUP GROWS WITH EVERY FOLLOWING MEETING.

SO I'D ALSO LIKE, I'M SORRY, I WAS GONNA SAY AND I COULD JUST FOR THE RECORD, UM, OUTLINE ALL OF THE AD HOCS YOU HAVE BOTH EXISTING AND NEWLY CREATED, JUST SO WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT WITH AD HOCS AT THIS POINT.

UM, OKAY.

SO WE HAVE THE EMERGENCY DISASTER AND EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS, PREPAREDNESS AD HOC, UM, CONSISTING OF JOSHUA DE LEON, CHERYL COLE, RICKY DOCKERY, JOHN SCHULTZ, RICHARD BROWN.

WE HAVE THE INDIGENOUS ENGAGEMENT AD HOC CONSISTING OF MATT ESTES, LIZETTE FLORES, RICHARD BROWN.

WE HAVE THE HEALTH ACCESS AND QUALITY, UH, LISTENING SESSION, UM, PLANNING AD HOC CONSISTING OF JOSH DELEON, UH, COMMISSIONER BUTLER, UH, BUTLER AND COMMISSIONER DOCKERY.

AND WE ALSO HAVE, UH, LISTENING SESSION, DATA SYNTHESIS AND REPORTING CONSISTING OF COLE AND DELEON.

SO CURRENTLY I DO WANT TO CALL OUT, UM, CHAIR DELEON THAT YOU ARE SITTING ON IN ALL FOUR AD HOCS.

I'LL BE OKAY.

BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONCERN.

AS LONG AS IT'S NOT PROCEDURALLY WRONG, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, WELL, SO THE BYLAWS, AGAIN, FOR THIS PARTICULAR COMMISSION DOES STATE, I THINK IF IT'S OVER TWO, UH, IF A, IF A COMMISSIONER WANTS TO BE ON TWO OR MORE, UH, IT DOES NEED TO GET APPROVAL BY OUR OFFICE.

UM, LET'S, LET'S PULL ME OFF THE HEALTHCARE ACCESS ONE SO THAT I CAN HELP STAND UP THE SYNTHESIS ONE.

UM, AND THEN COMMISSIONERS BUTLER AND DOCKER, YOU TWO CAN TAKE, TAKE LEAD FOR NOW ON HEALTHCARE ACCESS.

UM, AND THEN IF ANYTHING CHANGES FOR OTHERS, WE CAN ADD THEM.

AND, AND I EXPECT TO CLOSE, UH, THE, UH, THE REALLY LONG WORDED EMERGENCY ONE, UH, NEXT MONTH AFTER WE, UH, TURN IN THE LETTER.

RIGHT.

PERFECT.

AND THAT'LL RELIEVE FIVE PEOPLE OF ONE AD HOC THEY INN, WHICH SHOULD HOPEFULLY OPEN UP CAPACITY QUESTION.

WHAT, WHAT'S THE LAST, UH, LISTENING SESSION? WHAT'S THE TITLE OF THAT ONE? IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD AND BUILT ENVIRONMENT.

NEIGHBORHOOD AND A BUILT ENVIRONMENT.

BUILT ENVIRONMENT.

SO THAT CAN BE LIKE ACCESS TO GREEN SPACES AND PARKS, BIKE LANES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

, WE'RE A LITTLE FREEWHEELING RIGHT NOW.

APOLOGIES Y'ALL.

BUT, UM, SO I THINK, OH, MAKE AN ADDITIONAL MOTION TO FORM THE SYNTHESIS AD HOC, UM, COMPRISED OF COMMISSIONER COLE AND MYSELF.

UM, WHICH I ASSUME THERE'S NO ISSUES, BUT LET US KNOW.

COMMISSIONER BUTLER AND SCHULTZ AND CHAIR, JUST TO CONFIRM THE MOTION OF, UH, THIS ITEM WAS COMMISSIONER LARA AND THE SECONDER WAS COMMISSIONER COLE.

OH, MY BAD.

I'M MISREADING IT.

IN THAT CASE, COMMISSIONER LARA, DO YOU ACCEPT THESE? I ACCEPT .

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, LAST THING BEFORE WE CLOSE THIS ITEM OUT.

UM, WAS THERE ANYONE INTERESTED IN INFORMING AN IMMIGRATION AD HOC PER THE RECOMMENDATION FROM OUR GUESTS? I WAS GONNA JUMP IN THAT, BUT I DO WANT CLARIFICATION.

UM, I GUESS IT TECHNICALLY IS UP TO THE AD HOC, BUT THIS IS AN URGENT MATTER.

CLEARLY, IF THERE WERE, IF, I MEAN THIS IS KIND OF, I GUESS I WOULD BE ON ME, UM, AND ANYONE ELSE INTERESTED THE GOAL TO MOVE A POTENTIAL RECOMMENDATION COULD BE NOVEMBER.

'CAUSE WE'RE CLOSE DECEMBER WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT MEETING.

RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.

BECAUSE I'M JUST ALSO THINKING OF LOGISTICS HERE.

I'M ABOUT TO ENTER FOR A HEAVY TRAVEL SEASON FOR WORK.

UM, SO CAPACITY, UM, IF ANYONE ELSE JUST IS INTERESTED, I'M AVAILABLE NEXT WEEK TO MEET.

BUT AFTER THAT, UM, SLIM PICKINGS, WE COULD ALSO EXPLORE MAKING THE AD HOC AT A DIFFERENT MEETING IF WE DON'T HAVE CAPACITY RIGHT NOW.

SO.

DOES ANYONE, SO WE CAN SEE IF ANYONE WANTS TO NOW, IF NOT, WE CAN.

I MEAN, I GUESS THE QUESTION I CAN POSE IF ANYONE ELSE IS INTERESTED AND ALSO NO PRESSURE AVAILABLE TO MEET NEXT WEEK, THAT'S WHEN I'M AVAILABLE TO MEET AFTER THAT IT'S BECOMES, UH, HARD TO SCHEDULE.

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SO, ARE, ARE YOU ARE, I AM INTERESTED, BUT ARE YOU PROPOSING AN, ARE YOU PROPOSING A IMMIGRATION AD HOC? I'M PROPOSING, UH, IMMIGRATION AD HOC, UH, WITH AND JUST AS FY AS WE MAKE DECISIONS, I THINK MEETING NEXT WEEK.

UM, BUT IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, DON'T LET US UP.

WE CAN, WE COULD STILL SCHEDULE, WE CAN BE CREATIVE AND WHEREVER I'M AT, MAYBE ZOOM IN.

COMMISSIONER DOCKERY? YES.

I THINK WE JUST NEED ONE OTHER PERSON TO ONE OTHER VOICE INTEREST, IF I MAY.

IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S CAPACITY CONCERNS, SO WE MIGHT JUST CONSIDER HOLDING OFF.

I ALSO WANNA REMIND THE COMMISSION THAT AN IMMIGRATION AD HOC WAS CREATED EARLIER THIS YEAR, AND A LETTER WAS ALREADY WRITTEN TO COUNCIL IN FEBRUARY WITH RECOMMENDATIONS TO SUPPORT THE VALUES ACT.

THAT'S TRUE.

PERHAPS ONE PATH WE CAN DO IS, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE MADE EARLIER IN THE YEAR ARE IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT COMMUNITY ADVOCATES ARE TRYING TO PUT IN FRONT OF COUNCIL.

UH, THAT WAS MENTIONED NEXT MONTH.

PERHAPS WE CAN SEE WHAT COMES OUT OF THAT AND THEN EVALUATE AND HOLD OFF IF WE WANT TO.

SO WITH THAT, I THINK, SHOULD WE SUMMARIZE THE WHAT WE, WHAT WE DECIDED ON? UM, SO MY SUMMARY IS THAT WE HAVE MADE A MOTION TO, UH, FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS TO THE MOTION TO FORM A HEALTHCARE ACCESS AND QUALITY LISTENING SESSION, AD HOC COMPRISED OF COMMISSIONER BUTLER AND DOCKERY, AND A, UH, LISTENING SESSION, SYNTHESIS AD HOC COMPRISED OF COMMISSIONER COLE AND CHAIR DE LEON.

UM, AND YEAH, I THINK THOSE ARE THE ONLY CHANGES.

ALRIGHT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND TAKE US TO A VOTE AT THIS TIME.

IF, UM, YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THIS ITEM IN THE ZOOM MEETING, PLEASE USE THE RAISED HAND FEATURE.

SEEING NONE.

CHAIR, THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ANYBODY IN THE ZOOM ROOM.

DID YOU WANNA TAKE A VOTE CHAIR? YEAH, LET'S TAKE A VOTE.

I THINK WE'RE HAVING LOADING ISSUES FOR A FEW OF THE MONITORS.

AGAIN, JUST CALL FOR, FOR, CAN WE DO A VOTE? VOICE? VOTE FOR THE, WE COULD JUST DO A ROLL CALL.

VOTE.

SO COMMISSIONER BROWN.

COMMISSIONER LARA? YES.

COMMISSIONER MONTGOMERY.

COMMISSIONER SAN? YES.

VICE-CHAIR SCHULTZ? YES.

AND CHAIR DE LEON? UH, YES.

THANK YOU ALL FOR WORKING THROUGH THAT TOGETHER.

AND APOLOGIES.

I DID MISS RE I WAS ON THE WRONG AGENDA, ED, WHEN I WAS TRYING TO CALL COMMISSIONER BUTLER FOR APPROVING THINGS.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S ON ME LOOKING AT THEM AND THEY WERE LIKE, WHAT'S GOING ON, ? ALRIGHT.

SO WE'VE CLOSED OUT OUR MAIN ITEMS HERE.

WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND PASS TO OUR LAST SUBSTANTIVE ITEM, WHICH IS A MONTHLY UPDATE FROM THE OFFICE OF EQUITY.

LET'S GET A MOTION FOR THIS ITEM.

WE NEED A MOTION IN A SECOND FOR ITEM FIVE.

YOU HAVE IT

[5. 26-56366 Recommendation to receive and file a monthly update from the Office of Equity. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

CHAIR.

WE, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMM OR VICE CHAIR SCHULTZ AND COMMISSIONER LARA, OR SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LARA.

UM, IT LOOKS LIKE THE SCREEN, I HAVE TO REFRESH THAT HEAR.

APOLOGIES.

MY, UH, MONITOR'S NOT CAUGHT UP.

OH, TURN THE LIGHTS OFF ON IT.

NOVEMBER 5TH AT 5:30 PM WE HAVE, UH, ONE HAPPENING AT CESAR CHAVEZ COMMUNITY PARK, UM, ON SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 7TH AND, UH, HOUGHTON PARK, UH, ON WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 18TH.

UM, OKAY.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND PASS TO, UH, OFFICE EQUITY STAFF.

ALRIGHT, SO JUST TWO QUICK, UH, QUICK UPDATES FROM THE OFFICE OF EQUITY.

UM, JUST ONE REMINDER TO PLEASE COMPLETE YOUR RENEWAL COMPENSATION FORM, EVEN IF YOU'RE CHOOSING FOR, FOR YOUR COMPENSATION TO STAY THE SAME.

UM, WE DO REQUIRE A NEW FORM TO BE SUBMITTED, UM, AND WE DO HAVE A DEADLINE OF END OF NOVEMBER TO GET THAT SUBMITTED AND, AND FILED.

AND THEN, UM, SECONDLY, THE OFFICE OF EQUITY IS CURRENTLY INVITING COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO PARTICIPATE IN A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE POTENTIAL RENAMING OF CITY ASSETS CURRENTLY NAMED IN HONOR OF CESAR CHAVEZ.

UM, AND THE OFFICE OF EQUITY EQUITY WILL BE HOSTING LISTENING SESSIONS AT THE FOLLOWING, UM, UH, UH, CITY FACILITIES.

SO WE'RE HOSTING A LISTENING SESSION FOR COMMUNITY AT EL DORADO PARK, UM, SATURDAY, OCTOBER 24TH AT 1:00 PM WE HAVE A VIRTUAL COMMUNITY SESSION ON THURSDAY,

[02:20:01]

GREAT.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS FOR OFFICE EQUITY STAFF? SEEING NONE, LET'S GO AHEAD.

I I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYONE IN THE ZOOM FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, SO I THINK WE CAN MOVE THROUGH IT.

THERE'S STILL ONE ATTENDEE, SO I'LL JUST SEE IF THEY WANNA SPEAK REAL QUICK.

UM, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK IN THE ZOOM MEETING, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

USE THE RAISE HAND FEATURE.

SEEING NONE.

CHAIR, THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.

DID YOU WANT TO GO TO A ROLL CALL? VOTE YES.

COMMISSIONER BUTLER.

I MEAN, COMMISSIONER BROWN.

COMMISSIONER DOCKERY.

COMMISSIONER FLORES? YES.

COMMISSIONER ESTES? YES.

COMMISSIONER COLE.

COMMISSIONER LARA? YES.

COMMISSIONER MONTGOMERY? YES.

COMMISSIONER SAN? YES.

VICE CHAIR SCHULTZ? YES.

AND CHAIR DE LEON? YES.

ALRIGHT, SO WITH THAT, LET'S MOVE TO OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT.

AND WE'RE, UH, CLOSING.

WE FINISHED ALL MEETING AGENDA ITEMS. WE'LL DO PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN ANNOUNCEMENTS.

AT THIS TIME, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON AN AGENDA, PUBLIC COMMENT IN THE ZOOM MEETING, PLEASE USE THE RAISED HAND FEATURE.

SEEING NONE, CHAIR.

BUDGET ON INTERPRETATION SERVICES IN INTER IN, IN INTER INTERPRETERS.

UM, SO WITH THAT, WE'LL PASS TO COMMISSIONERS FOR ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT FOLKS HAVE.

YES, I HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT.

UH, UM, ALL SEE DEPARTMENTS HAVE BEEN ASKED TO CUT THEIR, UH, BUDGET.

WE, WE'VE SEEN IT TOUCH US IN, IN, IN DIFFERENT WAYS.

UM, AND, UM, ONE OF THE WAYS THAT, UH, UH, E HC, UH, OUR COMMISSION IS, UH, IS STRIVING TO BE, UH, FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.

UM, WE SPEND, I THINK, A, A, A GOOD PORTION, IF NOT A MAJORITY OF OUR

[PUBLIC COMMENT Opportunity to address the Equity and Human Relations Commission on non-agenda items. Each speaker is limited to three minutes to make their comments unless extended by the Chair.]

VERY SMALL

[ANNOUNCEMENTS]

UH, AND, UM, SOME MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, OVER, OVER A THOUSAND DOLLARS WHEN NOBODY IS HERE, NOBODY'S CALLING IN, NOBODY'S QUEUING UP.

UH, AND, UM, UH, WE MET WITH, UH, WITH TONY, UH, AND THE CHAIR, UM, AND ARE TRYING TO ALIGN OURSELVES WITH, WITH, WITH OTHER GROUPS THAT, UM, REQUIRE A, A REQUEST FOR INTERPRETIVE SERVICES, UH, 24 HOURS BEFORE, UM, THE, UH, THE, THE MEETING OR THE EVENT.

UH, SO YOU SEE THIS IS, UH, ONE OF THE FIRST MEETINGS WE'VE HAD WITHOUT INTERPRETERS SITTING IN THE BACK, USUALLY NOT DOING ANYTHING.

IT'S A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT SERVICES SERVICE FOR PEOPLE WHO REQUIRE INTERPRETIVE SERVICES, BUT IT'S ALSO A VERY EXPENSIVE, UH, SERVICE.

SO WE'VE, UM, UH, WE'VE TURNED TO A MODEL OF, I BELIEVE IT'S 20 FOOT.

TONY, COULD YOU JUST GIVE US YES, ABSOLUTELY.

THIS, AFTER A CONVERSATION WE HAD WITH THE CHAIR, THE CHAIR AND THE VICE CHAIR, UH, IT WAS DECIDED TO ALIGN WITH THE CITY'S LANGUAGE ACCESS POLICY, WHICH MEANS THAT OUR AGENDAS MOVING FORWARD WILL INDICATE THAT IF TRANSLATION OR INTERPRETATION NEEDS ARE REQUIRED, THEN, UH, AS LONG AS THEY LET US KNOW 24 HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING, WE WILL COORDINATE THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S INTERPRETATION HERE.

UM, FOR THOSE WHO, WHO LET US KNOW 24 HOURS WITHIN, UM, THE, THE, THE MEETING.

THAT'S GOOD.

THANK YOU, TONY.