* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:06:30] GIVE [00:06:30] FOR A SECOND TO HELLO. HI, VICE CHAIR. HOW'S IT GOING? ALL RIGHT, PHILLIP. [CALL TO ORDER] ALL RIGHT. UH, CHAIR. THE TIME IS 3 0 3. THANK YOU. SHOULD WE DO ROLL? [ROLL CALL] COMMISSIONER NOVE? HERE. COMMISSIONER DE BEES. COMMISSIONER GILL. HERE. COMMISSIONER GILLETTE. HERE. COMMISSIONER P*****K. HERE. VICE CHAIR EATON. HERE. CHAIR COLEMAN. PRESENT WE HAVE CORE. I ALSO WANT TO JUST NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT COMM COMMISSIONER D BENEDICTUS, WHILE IT'S NOT HERE, DID INFORM THE COMMISSION AND HAS AN EXCUSE ABSENCE. UM, NOW TURNING TO THE AGENDA, REGULAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE, RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE [1. 26-56345 Recommendation to approve the minutes for the Ethics Commission meeting of Wednesday, September 9, 2026.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] THE MINUTES FOR THE, AT THIS COMMISSION MEETING OF WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 9TH, 2026. CAN I GET A MOTION? AND A SECOND HAS BEEN MOVED BY COMMISSIONER GILLETTE HAS BEEN SECONDED BY, BY CHAIR EATON. UM, ANY COMMENT BY THE COMMISSION? ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEN NONE. LET'S TAKE A VOTE. I MAY HAVE TO VOICE. YEAH. I'M NOT GETTING THE RIGHT SCREEN UP. ONE SECOND. WE'RE GONNA, UH, VERIFY THAT YOU GUYS ARE ABLE TO VOTE, AND THEN WHILE MY PARTNER HERE IS CHECKING THAT OUT, WE CAN TAKE A VERBAL. SO, COMMISSIONER, UH, GILL? YES. OKAY. AND COMMISSIONER P*****K? YES. OKAY. MOTION CARRIES. SORRY. UM, SORRY. I ALSO JUST WANNA CHECK WHEN IT POPPED UP ON MY END, IT SHOWED THAT, UM, COMMISSIONER GILLETTE DID NOT VOTE, BUT I DID SEE . I HAVE THE ABILITY TO SEE THAT SHE DID CAST A VOTE. UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT HER VOTE IS ALSO TAKEN FOR THE RECORD. WAIT, JASON, IT'S STUCK ON, YES. SO WHERE DO I HAVE MY VOTE? OH, THERE. OKAY. THANKS. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MM-HMM . YES. UH, SO JUST TO ADDRESS ON, YES. TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION AND THE CHAIR'S QUESTION, WE DID CAPTURE, UH, COMMISSIONER GILLETTE'S VOTE AS AS YES. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, UM, THE MINUTES, UH, WERE REFLECTIVE OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING. UM, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO. [2. 26-56409 Recommendation to review and discuss the recent Commissioner Priorities Survey results and adopt an actionable work plan for the Commission’s top priorities moving into 2027 calendar year.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE, TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS, UM, THE RECENT, UH, COMM COMM COMMISSIONER PRIORITY SURVEY RESULTS AND ADOPT AN ACTIONABLE WORK PLAN FOR THE COMMISSION'S TOP PRIORITIES. MOVING [00:10:01] INTO THE 2027 CALENDAR YEAR. MAY HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COMMISSIONER P*****K AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GI. UM, HEATHER. THANK YOU CHAIR. SO, YES, I JUST WANNA THANK EVERYONE FOR TAKING THE SURVEY THAT WAS SENT OUT A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. EVERYONE DID RESPOND. UM, WE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE ONE EXTRA RESPONSE. UM, SO THAT MAY SKEW THINGS A BIT. UM, SO I'M JUST GONNA BRIEFLY GO OVER THE RESULTS AND THEN LET LET Y'ALL ENGAGE IN YOUR DISCUSSION. UH, SO JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND REMINDER FOR ALL OF US. UM, BACK IN JUNE, THE ETHICS COMMISSION CONDUCTED A STUDY SESSION ON CURRENT COMMISSION PRIORITIES. LOTS OF DISCUSSION ON AUGUST 12TH, UM, FOR THE AUGUST 12TH MEETING, STAFF PREPARED AND DISTRIBUTED A SUMMARY OF THAT DISCUSSION. UH, DURING THE JUNE STUDY SESSION COMING BACK IN SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER, UM, WE CONDUCTED THE SURVEY, AND THE POINT OF THAT WAS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT EACH OF YOU, UH, VIEWED AS IMMEDIATE PRIORITIES VERSUS LONGER TERM. AND THEN TODAY WE'RE GONNA GO OVER THOSE RESULTS. SO THE QUESTIONS ARE HERE FOR YOU. I WON'T GO OVER ALL OF THEM. UM, I'LL MENTION THEM AS WE GO OVER THE RESULTS. BUT THERE WERE SEVEN QUESTIONS, UM, FOR Y'ALL TO RANK. ONE BEING IMMEDIATE PRIORITY, AND, UH, GOING DOWN THE LINE TO SEVEN BEING THE LONGER TERM PRIORITY, THERE WAS ALSO SPACE FOR EVERYONE TO OFFER ADDITIONAL SUGGESTIONS IF YOU WANTED TO. SO THE SURVEY RESULTS, UM, THEY ARE RANKED IN ORDER OF, UM, IMMEDIATE PRIORITY VERSUS LONGER TERM. UH, THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY WAS TO PREPARE FOR FAIR ACT IMPLEMENTATION AND RELATED GOVERNANCE STANDARDS. UH, THE SECOND PRIORITY WAS IDENTIFIED AS COMPLETE INVESTIGATION PROTOCOL RECOMMENDATION AND SUBMIT TO CITY MANAGER FOR CONSIDERATION. THE THIRD PRIORITY, COLLABORATE WITH OET TO CO-CREATE CONTENT FOR ETHICS TRAINING MODULES AND RELATED RESOURCES. THE FOURTH PRIORITY EXPAND OUTREACH THROUGH NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERSHIP MEETINGS, COMMUNITY AND EDUCATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS AND BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS. FIFTH PRIORITY DEVELOP A TARGETED TOPIC SPECIFIC PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS PLAN. SIX, PRODUCE INFORMATIONAL MICRO VIDEOS ON CAMPAIGN FINANCE AND OTHER, UH, GOVERNMENTAL ETHICS. UH, TOPICS SEVEN WAS TO UNDERSTAND INTERNAL CONTROLS FOR 2028 OLYMPICS ACTIVITIES. AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL RESPONSES, THERE WERE FOUR. UM, THOSE INCLUDE, UH, DISCUSS VALUE OF COLLABORATIONS, MEETINGS WITH OTHER LOCAL ETHICS BODIES. SECOND, WAS IMPROVE INFORMATION FLOW REGARDING CITY INVESTIGATIONS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION, CONTINUE TO ASSIST STAFF AND PARTICIPATE IN PROVIDING COMMISSION FEEDBACK ON ETHICS AND COMPLIANCE RELATED CITY POLICY AND ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATIONS. AND THE FOURTH ITEM, UH, WAS IDENTIFY ADDITIONAL AUTHORITIES THAT THE COMMISSION MAY WISH TO SEEK. THOSE ARE IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER, UM, UH, FOR AS FAR AS WHAT'S IMMEDIATE VERSUS LONGER TERM. SO THE NEXT STEPS, AGAIN, WOULD HAVE YOUR DISCUSSION AND THEN APPROVE IMMEDIATE PRIORITIES VERSUS LONG TERM PRIORITIES. AND IDEALLY, DEVELOP AN HIGH, EXCUSE ME, DEVELOP AN ACTION PLAN EVEN AT A HIGH LEVEL. AND I CAN HELP WITH THAT, UH, TO HELP YOU GUIDE YOU THROUGH THESE PRIORITIES. AND THEN THE REST OF THAT, UH, ATTACHMENT JUST INCLUDED EACH INDIVIDUAL SURVEY. THANKS, CHAIR. I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU. THANK YOU, HEATHER. ANY COMMENT BY THE COMMISSION? UM, COMMISSIONER P*****K. OH, SORRY. I SAW YOUR MIC WAS ON. OH, I SHARED. IS THAT A, IF WE COULD, UH, MOVE THE SLIDE BACK TO THE PRIOR THAT STATES ALL THE PRIORITIES IN LIST THERE, UH, UH, ORDER. UM, SO AS IT RELATES TO RANK NUMBER TWO, COMPLETE INVESTIGATION PROTOCOL RECOMMENDATION AND SUBMIT TO CITY MANAGER FOR CONSIDERATION, I'LL JUST NOTE THAT LATER ON THE AGENDA THIS AFTERNOON, WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT EXACTLY THIS, AND SO I CAN PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION ON OUR PROPOSED NEXT STEPS. THANK YOU. WELL, I, WELL, I WANNA THANK EVERYONE ON THE COMMISSION FOR, UM, TAKING THE TIME TO FILL OUT THE PRIORITIES. I DO THINK THAT THIS HELPS, UM, THE VICE CHAIR, UM, HEATHER AND MYSELF NOW IN OUR AGENDA SETTING MEETINGS, UM, BE REALLY [00:15:01] BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY, UM, WHAT ARE THE TOPICS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS MORE, UM, WAYS FOR DIFFERENT AD HOCS TO NOW, UM, PERHAPS IMPLEMENT SOME OF THESE IDEAS. UM, AND IT KIND OF HELPS TO FOCUS SOME OF OUR NEXT, UH, ORDER BUSINESS. SO I REALLY DO WANT TO APPRECIATE, TAKE THE TIME TO APPRECIATE EVERYONE FILLING OUT THE SURVEY, AND IT WILL GUIDE US IN THE FUTURE. UM, IF I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER COMMENT BY THE COMMISSION, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? SEE NONE. CAN WE VOTE PLEASE? OH, SORRY, CHAIR. I HAVE A, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. I'M SO SORRY, COMMISSIONER. I NO, THAT'S OKAY. UM, JUST TO CLARIFY, THESE ARE, THESE ARE ITEMS THAT WE'LL, THAT WE WILL BE DISCUSSING IN THE FUTURE. IS THIS CORRECT? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. OF COURSE. UM, BACK TO PUBLIC COMMENT, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT SAYING NONE, CAN WE PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES? ONCE AGAIN? I'M NOT GETTING THE VOTE. YEAH, ME NEITHER THE SCREEN. BUT I, UH, WE CAN, WE CAN TAKE A ROLL CALL. VOTE YES. UM, SO, UH, COMMISSIONER GILL? YES. COMMISSIONER P*****K? YES. MOTION CARIES. UM, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, [3. 26-56410 Recommendation to receive and file monthly update from the Ad Hoc Committee on Commission Responsibilities.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE MONTHLY UPDATE FROM THE AD HOC COMMITTEE ON COMMISSION RESPONSIBILITIES. UM, MAY HAVE. THERE WE GO. I, IT'S BEEN MOVED BY VICE CHAIR EATON. IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILLETTE, UM, WHO WILL BE VICE CHAIR EATON. GOOD AFTERNOON. UH, MEMBERS OF THE AD HOC ON THE COMMISSION ON, UH, ON THE COMMITTEE ON COMMISSION RESPONSIBILITIES HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, ALTHOUGH MEET, NOT MEET TOGETHER TO SPEAK SEPARATELY, UM, WITH THE GOAL OF COMING BACK TO, UH, THE COMMISSION WITH, UM, SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS AROUND IMPLEMENTATION OF, UM, THE RECOMMENDATIONS CONTAINED WITHIN THE ORIGINAL REPORT AT ISSUE HERE. THANK YOU. I SHOULD NOTE SPECIFICALLY THAT THE GOAL WOULD BE TO COME BACK TO THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING, WHENEVER THAT MAY BE, UM, UH, TO PRESENT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY COMMENT BY THE COMMISSION ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, CAN WE PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES? ALL MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. UM, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE MONTHLY UPDATE FROM THE AD HOC COMMITTEE ON THE [4. 26-56411 Recommendation to receive and file monthly update from the Ad Hoc Committee on Investigative Protocol.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] INVESTIGATIVE PROTOCOL. MAY I HAVE A MOTION? A SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COMMISSIONER P*****K. IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR EATON. I CHAIR. YES. THANK YOU. AS IT RELATES TO THE AD HOC COMMITTEE ON INVESTIGATION PROTOCOLS, OUR INTENT IS TO COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION IN OUR NEXT COMMISSION MEETING TO PRESENT A DRAFT ACTION PLAN FOR, UM, UH, FOR THE COMPLETION OF THE INVESTIGATION PROTOCOL. UH, AND, UM, ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS RELATED TO THE INVESTIGATION PROTOCOL. THANK YOU. ANY COMMENTS BY THE COMMISSION SCENE? NONE. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, LET PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. OKAY. MOTION CARRIES. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A MONTHLY UPDATE FROM THE AD HOC COMMITTEE ON [5. 26-56412 Recommendation to receive and file monthly update from the Ad Hoc Committee on Social Media and Campaign Activity.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] SOCIAL MEDIA AND CAMPAIGN ACTIVITY. THIS HAS BEEN MOVED BY, UM, COMMISSIONER GILL AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GI GILLETTE. OKAY. UM, DARN IT. UH, SORRY. THIS ITEM [00:20:02] IS, YOU KNOW, I THINK I'M NOT PREPARED TO NO PROBLEM. 'CAUSE I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHERE THE STATUS IS OF, OF IT GOING TO THE COUNCIL. YES. SO THIS, UH, THIS, WHICH LEFT ON THE, UM, AGENDA SINCE THAT, SINCE WE HAVE NOT FORMALLY DISBAND THIS AD HOC, UM, THIS MUST REMAIN ON THE AGENDA. UM, THIS, UH, THE, AS A REMINDER, WE HAVE NOW SENT OUR RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. WE ACTUALLY GOT AN UPDATE YESTERDAY, UM, THAT IS IN THE INBOX OF, UH, ONE OF THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGERS, UM, FOR REVIEW. HEATHER, DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER ON THAT? YEAH, IT'S ON TOM'S DESK, JUST WAITING FOR HIS FINAL REVIEW, AND I ANTICIPATE GOING OUT BY, OUT BY FRIDAY. OKAY. UPSTAIRS TO CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . UM, SO IT'S IN THE WORKS. UM, WE ALSO WERE ABLE TO BRIEFLY TALK WITH A COUNCIL MEMBER YESTERDAY WHO ACTUALLY IDEA WAS, OR STARTED THIS THOUGHT PROCESS OF THE IMPORTANCE OF WHAT EVENTUALLY BECAME A RECOMMENDATION, UM, TO KIND OF LAY THE SEEDS OF BEGINNING CONVERSATIONS THAT THIS WAS COMING, UM, AND TO KIND OF BE ON THE LOOKOUT AND THE IMPORTANCE OF IT. UM, OTHERWISE, ANY OTHER COMMENT BY THE COMMISSION? ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SO, UM, EXCITING. SO JUST, UH, FROM A, OKAY. THE NEXT STATUS. SO LET'S SAY IT GOES THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE BY THE END OF THE WEEK. SURE. WHAT WOULD THE NEXT STEP, EXACT NEXT ONE OR TWO STEPS BE TO GET IT ONTO THE COUNCIL'S AGENDA? IT'S ON THE CITY MANAGER'S DESK, RIGHT? HE WOULD SEND IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL AS THE NEXT STEP, CORRECT? YEAH. OR RIGHT. I THINK HE'S ASKING WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT. SO IT WOULD NEED TO GET PICKED UP BY AT LEAST ONE COUNCIL MEMBER INTERESTED IN MOVING IT FORWARD, UM, AND THEN BROUGHT TO A CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR DISCUSSION. OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . IS IT TRUE THAT IT COULD ALSO GO INTO A COMMITTEE OR THIS ONE? THIS NOT NECESSARILY. I SAID COULD IT DIDN'T SAY. YEAH, I SHOULD. YEAH, IT COULD. YEAH. YOU MEAN A COUNCIL COMMITTEE? YES. IT HAS TO GO FIRST TO COUNCIL, AND THEN COUNCIL HAS TO KICK IT TO A COMMITTEE. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, SO YES. SO AFTER IT IS TRANSMITTED TO, UH, CITY COUNCIL, IT'LL BE ON VICE CHAIR AND THE CHAIR, ALONG WITH TYLER, HEATHER MILLICENT TO START KNOCKING ON DOORS AND GET SOMEONE TO, UM, CHAMPION IT. COMMISSIONER, ADORE, UH, JUST A QUICK THANK YOU TO, UM, TO THE AD HOC AND STAFF WHO ARE WORKING ON THIS AND GETTING IT TO TOM'S DESK. GREAT JOB. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENT BY THE COMMISSION? SEEING NONE. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE. LET'S CAST A VOTE PLEASE. MOTION. OH, SORRY, THAT WAS A LITTLE EARLY. I'LL OPEN THIS BACK UP. IS IT STILL LOADING FOR YOU? JUST SAYS WAITING FROM THE, UH, MOTION. WE CAN TAKE A VERBAL. SO, COMMISSIONER GILL? YES. ALL RIGHT. THE, UH, VOTE IS UPDATED TO REFLECT THE PROPER VOTE. MOTION CARRIES. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX, RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS AND APPROVE THE AD HOC COMMITTEE ON [6. 26-56413 Recommendation to discuss and approve the Ad Hoc Committee on Community Outreach’s presentation for neighborhood associations on the Office of Ethics and Transparency’s mission and the Commission’s jurisdiction and work.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] COM. COMMUNITY OUTREACHES PRESENTATION FOR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ON THE OFFICE OF ETHIC. NO, YOU SKIPPED ONE. DID I? COMMUNITY OUTREACH AD HOC. OKAY. I'M SORRY. NUMBER SIX. I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT I WAS READING. THAT'S WHAT I WAS READING. I'M SORRY. OKAY. UM, ASSOCIATIONS ON THE OFFICE OF ETHICS AND TRANSPARENCY'S MISSION AND THE COMMISSION'S JURISDICTION AND WORK. UH, MAY I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COMMISSIONER GILL. IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILLETTE. COMMISSIONER P*****K, DO YOU WANNA START THIS CONVERSATION, OR, HEATHER, DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION? HEATHER? YEAH. CHAIR. I'LL START US OFF. SO IN YOUR PACKET, UM, THIS IS JUST, UH, A CONTINUATION OF THE DISCUSSION THE COMMISSION HAD LAST MONTH ON THIS PRESENTATION. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY ARE JUST THE, UM, THE INCORPORATED FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE COMMISSION LAST WEEK. SO IN YOUR PACKET, UM, EACH OF THE SLIDES UNDERNEATH INCLUDES THE NOTES. SO WE WORKED TO REALLY ABBREVIATE THE SLIDES. [00:25:01] HOWEVER, UH, THE TALKING POINTS THAT WERE IN THE SCRIPT THAT WAS SENT OUT AS WELL. UH, THE FULL BODY OF THE TALKING POINTS ARE IN THE NOTES UNDERNEATH THE SLIDE, AND YOU WON'T SEE IT ON THIS PRESENTATION, BUT AGAIN, IT IS IN YOUR PACKET. UM, SO THE FOCUS REMAINS THE SAME OET INTRODUCTION, THEN WE TALK ABOUT THE COMMISSION BACKGROUND, AUTHORITY, ACCOMPLISHMENTS, ONGOING PRIORITIES, AND WE DID ADD, EXCUSE ME, UH, PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT SLIDE, UH, TO TALK MORE SPECIFICALLY AND DIRECTLY TO THE PUBLIC. AND THEN, UH, Q AND A. SO THE OET SLIDE DIDN'T CHANGE MUCH, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT ABBREVIATED. UM, AND THEN AGAIN, LOTS MORE TALKING POINTS IN THE SCRIPT AND NOTES. UH, WE DEFINITELY TOOK SOME OFF OF THIS SLIDE. UM, SHORTENED IT A BIT. AND, UH, AGAIN, ALL THE NOTES, SIR, IN THE NOTES AND SCRIPT. UM, WE UPDATED EVERYONE'S TITLE TO CURRENTLY REFLECT YOUR ROLE ON THE COMMISSION. UM, SO THAT'S BEEN DONE. THIS SLIDE DIDN'T, WELL, A LOT OF THE DESCRIPTION CAME OFF. UM, SO STILL TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THINGS THE LAST PRESENTATION WAS TALKING ABOUT, BUT ALL OF THOSE TALKING POINTS ARE NOW IN THE NOTES AND SCRIPT SHORTENED THIS A BIT. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, INCLUDED, WHATEVER WE TOOK OUT IS INCLUDED IN THE NOTES AND SCRIPT, UH, SHORTENED THIS ONE A LOT. UM, ONGOING PRIORITIES WE TALK ABOUT, OR COMMISSIONERS WILL TALK, TALK ABOUT, UH, THE FAIR ACT AND, UH, GIVE AN UPDATE ON THAT. AND THEN TALK ABOUT THE SOCIAL MEDIA RECOMMENDATION. UH, THAT WAS OR WILL BE UP WITH CITY COUNCIL SOON. AND THEN WE ADDED THE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT SLIDES. SO, UM, JUST TALKING ABOUT WHEN AND WHERE THE COMMISSION MEETS EVERY MONTH, UH, REMINDING THAT THERE IS OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT ONLINE FOR THESE MEETINGS. AND, UH, JUST HIGHLIGHTING THE OFFICE OF ETHICS AND TRANSPARENCY IN OUR HELPLINE. AND, UM, WE THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO ENCOURAGE THE PUBLIC TO CONSIDER EITHER BECOMING AN ETHICS COMMISSIONER WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY ARISES, OR GENERALLY SPEAKING, BECOMING A COMMISSIONER, UM, UNDER THIS PROGRAM IF, IF THEY SEE THERE'S VALUE IN THAT. UM, SO TALKING ABOUT THE COMMISSION PROGRAM IN GENERAL, I ADDED SOME QR CODES. UH, THE ONE ON TOP WILL TAKE YOU TO THE MEETINGS AND AGENDAS, AND THEN THE GREEN ONE, UH, TAKES YOU TO THE COMMISSIONS AND BOARDS, UH, PAGE UNDER THE MAYOR'S SITE. AND THEN WE DO Q AND A AND THEN, UH, JUST ADDED EMBELLISHED MORE THE CONTACT INFORMATION AND RESOURCES SLIDE. AND THAT'S IT. THANKS, HEATHER. UM, COMMISSIONER P*****K? YEAH, I, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO NOTE THAT, UM, THE NOTES CONTAIN A LOT OF INFORMATION RESPONSIVE TO THE INPUT FROM THE COMMISSION AT THE LAST MEETING, PARTICULARLY WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT TO ME AS A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY? AND WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT TRAINING IN A MORE FULSOME MANNER, UM, AND CONNECTED TO, UH, MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THE SLIDES THEMSELVES IN TERMS OF WHAT, IF WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW THE SLIDES ARE, ARE, ARE VERY BARE BONES, BUT THE TALKING POINTS WHICH ARE CONTAINED IN THE NOTES AND SOMEWHAT, UH, IN THE OUTLINE THAT WAS ALSO ATTACHED, HAVE WE HOPE THE INFORMATION THAT THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDED WE INCLUDE. THANK YOU. UM, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER P*****K. BEFORE WE START FURTHER CONVERSATION ABOUT THE PRESENTATION, I DO THINK, AND I USUALLY RESERVE MY COMMENTS FOR AFTER EVERYONE ELSE HAS SPOKE, BUT I DO THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL JUST TO OUTLINE HOW A CONVERSATION MIGHT BE HELPFUL. UM, IN MY VIEW, I KIND OF SEE THIS AGENDA ITEM AS A THREE PARTER, ONE TO COM TO DISCUSS THE ACTUAL PRESENTATION AND THE, UM, UH, WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING WITHIN THE PRESENTATION. SECOND, I THINK IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS BY THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION ON, UM, ITEMS WITHIN THIS PRESENTATION, IF THERE'S CLARITY, IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ON AN AD HOC AND THERE'S DETAILS THAT YOU THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL AS YOU ARE ABLE TO, UM, BE SPEAKING TO THE PUBLIC, UM, SO THAT IF, FOR INSTANCE, I'LL USE AN I STATEMENT, [00:30:01] I WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THE SELECTION OF THE INDEPENDENT TION REDISTRICTING COMMISSION, I THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL FOR THOSE ON THE COMMISSION TO PROVIDE A BIT OF COLOR. UM, SO THAT'D BE THE SECOND PART OF THIS DISCUSSION. AND THEN THE THIRD PART WOULD BE IF THE COMMISSION FEELS THAT WE ARE IN A POSITION TO DO SO TO THEN APPROVE THE AD HOC COMMITTEE, UH, PRESENTATION. SO I JUST THINK THAT WOULD BE MORE HELPFUL IN THIS CONVERSATION, HAVING IT SPLIT UP IN THREE. SO WE'RE NOT KIND OF PING PONGING HERE. SO I WILL OPEN UP THAT FIRST PART. IS THERE ANY COMMENTS ON THE PRESENTATION ITSELF? COMMISSIONER? GO. UH, SO PART OF IT, UH, IS A, IS A QUESTION, UH, JUST FROM MY KNOWLEDGE, IF WE APPROVE THIS PRESENTATION, AND OF COURSE THE NOTES CAN, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY THREE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PRESENTATIONS DOWN THE ROAD, CAN THESE NOTES BE UPDATED AND CHANGED? OR DO THEY HAVE TO BE OFFICIALLY THE NOTES BECAUSE WE VOTED ON 'EM TODAY? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I DO NOT SEE US PRECLUDING THE ABILITY TO THEN COME BACK AND DISCUSS IF WE WANT TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE PRESENTATION. AND I ALSO THINK JUST REALISTICALLY, UM, ASK FOLKS ARE GOING TO GIVE THIS PRESENTATION, IF I GIVE THE PRESENTATION VERSUS YOU, IT WILL LOOK SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT. UM, JUST BASED ON STYLES, WHAT MIGHT, UM, BE MORE PERTINENT FOR THE, THE GROUP THAT YOU'RE TALKING WITH. UM, SO I DON'T THINK THIS IS A, YOU HAVE TO READ LINE BY LINE SITUATION. WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS, INSTEAD OF SAYING GO FORTH AND CONQUER, UM, INSTEAD HAVING A GUIDE THAT WE ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH AND COMFORTABLE WITH TO GO FROM. NOW I'M WITH THAT. I, IT'S NOT A PERMISSION STRUCTURE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ON HERE TO START GOING WAY, YOU KNOW, , I FAILED NECESSARILY. UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, I, I DO LOOK AT IT AND I TRUST AND RESPECT EVERYONE ON THE DIET. SO I, WE'RE ALL BIG BOYS AND GIRLS, WE CAN GO AND KIND OF TWEAK IT, BUT, UM, IT, THIS WAS JUST SUPPOSED TO BE KIND OF A GUIDE. YEAH, IT'S JUST MY, I, I MIGHT HAVE BROUGHT IT UP IN THE PAST, BUT ONE, ONE OF MY STRONG BELIEFS WOULD BE THAT AS WE DO PRESENT THIS OUT TO GROUPS AND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THEIR REACTIONS, COMMENTS, AND QUESTIONS WILL INFLUENCE US AND WANTING TO MAKE CHANGES TO IT. SO THAT'S WHY I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN MAKE EVEN A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE, UM, NOT TO GO OUT IN LEFT FIELD OF COURSE, BUT MAKE, YOU KNOW, HOW OUR PRESENTATION MIGHT CHANGE A MONTH OR TWO DOWN THE ROAD BASED ON OUR PRIOR EXPERIENCE. AND THAT IT WOULD BE GREAT THAT WE BROUGHT IT IN SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE THAT DISCUSSION YEAH. TO SAY, OH, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS OVER IN LAKEWOOD VILLAGE OR I WAS OVER IN BLUFF PARK, YOU KNOW, THESE WERE THE TYPE OF QUESTIONS I WAS GETTING. AND IF WE CHANGED THIS OR INCLUDED THAT, THAT IT WOULD MAKE A STRONGER PRESENTATION. NO, I AGREE. AND I ALSO THINK IT'D BE HEALTHY TO, UM, I'M SORRY, LEMME, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? I THINK IT, I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, BUT YOU COULD SPEAK FIRST. OKAY. I THINK, I THINK IT WOULD BE HEALTHY TO, UM, ALSO JUST TALK ABOUT GENERALLY HOW ARE THESE CONVERSATIONS GOING AS A GROUP AS WELL. UM, SO I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY. UH, AND YOU KNOW, THE FACTS ARE CHANGING TOO, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS THE FAIR ACT. AND THE FAIR ACT IS MOVING FORWARD, BUT IT'LL BE, YOU KNOW, FIVE STEPS FORWARD, ONE BACK, ET CETERA. SO WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE A WAY OF COMMUNICATING UPDATED INFORMATION THROUGH THE MEETINGS. SO WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T RUN A FOUL OF THE BROWN ACT, BUT THAT WILL CHANGE THE OUTLINE CONSTANTLY. AND OTHER, UH, AS WE MAKE PROGRESS ON OTHER PROJECTS, THE OUTLINE'S GONNA HAVE TO EVOLVE. YES. SO THEN I GUESS JUST TO CLOSE OUT MY COMMENT, THEN, I'M, UM, PERSONALLY, UH, VERY THANKFUL OF THE COMMENTS WE'VE HAD PRIOR. AND I AM, UM, EXTREMELY, UM, THANKFUL OF THE HELP THAT HEATHER HAS PROVIDED, IN FACT, MORE THAN HELP THE LEADERSHIP ON THIS . AND, UH, I, I, I REALLY, UH, DO LIKE WHERE WE'RE AT SO FAR ON THIS PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GILL. COMMISSIONER GIL? YES. I WANTED TO FIND OUT WHEN WOULD WE GET A LIST OF THE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND HOW WE'RE GONNA ASSIGN EACH OTHER. UH, AND IF I, I FEEL THAT TWO, AT LEAST OF TWO WOULD BE A GOOD NUMBER FOR EACH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION INSTEAD OF SENDING EACH OF US ALONE TO THESE, UH, MEETINGS. I THINK WE HAD AGREED THAT IT WOULD BE TWO PER MEETING [00:35:02] AT LEAST. I MEAN, I THREE COULD SHOW I'M SURE, BUT MINIMUM OF TWO, WE CAN, WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION DURING THE NEXT ITEM. OKAY. UM, OKAY. UM, WE WILL SAY THAT FOR THE NEXT ADAM. UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR SURE. IF I, OH, SO SORRY. SURE. UM, I, UH, I JUST WANTED TO COMPLIMENT THE THOROUGHNESS OF THE PRESENTATION AND OF THE NOTES. IT'S INCREDIBLY HELPFUL AND I THINK IT WILL HELP US ALL BE WELL PREPARED FOR THESE PUBLIC OUTREACH, UM, OPPORTUNITIES. BUT I, UM, HAD BEEN THINKING ABOUT, UH, HOW TO PREPARE FOR, UM, QUESTIONS THAT WE'LL GET FROM, UH, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO ARE THERE THAT AREN'T, DON'T NECESSARILY FIT WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE PRESENTATION. UM, IF INDIVIDUALS HAVE PERSONAL COMPLAINTS, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT THEY CHOOSE TO RAISE IN THE CONTEXT OF THOSE, UM, UH, MEETINGS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, AND WHETHER THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMISSION TO, UM, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT, UM, POTENTIAL APPROACHES TO ADDRESSING THOSE KINDS OF QUESTIONS. UM, IT, UH, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO SORT OF PRACTICE OR DO AND ROLE PLAY, BUT TO WORK THROUGH SOME CONTINGENCIES IN ADVANCE OF ANY OF THESE MEETINGS. THANK YOU. JUST SO THAT I, LET ME REPEAT IT BACK SO I UNDERSTAND. UM, IS THE, IS THE COMMENT THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A POSS IT WOULD HAVE TO BE BROWN ACT. OKAY. SO A SPECIAL MEETING TO PRACTICE THE PRESENTATION AND OR GO THROUGH SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT MAY ARISE OR THAT WE CAN, COULD ANTICIPATE ARISING. I THINK THAT IF THERE ARE PERHAPS A SET OF HYPOTHETICALS THAT WE COULD PUT TOGETHER AND THEN, UH, THINK ABOUT POTENTIAL RESPONSES THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO EACH OF THE INDIVIDUALS MAKING THESE PRESENTATIONS. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S HELPFUL. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON PART ONE OF THIS AGENDA ITEM? CHAIR, IF I MAY, UM, VICE CHAIR, JUST SO I AM CLEAR, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT QUESTIONS YOU MAY GET WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE WORK OF THE ETHICS COMMISSION? OR A QUESTION OR A CONCERN THAT YOU MAY GET UNRELATED TO THE WORK OF THE COMMISSION? I THINK BOTH. AND, YEAH. OKAY. SO THE SECOND ANSWER WOULD BE YOU WOULD JUST REFER THEM TO ME. COMMISSIONER, GO. SO JUST, I MEAN, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR, SO THAT WAS PERFECT. I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT'S VERY CLEAR THAT SOMEONE SAYS, UH, THEY ASK A QUESTION, UH, YOU KNOW, WE THINK X IS DOING A TERRIBLE JOB AS COUNCIL MEMBER, OR, YOU KNOW, Y ISN'T THAT YOU AREN'T DOING MORE COLLABORATION WITH THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION. OUR CANNED RESPONSE SHOULD BE THAT THAT'S NOT WITHIN OUR AREA, AND THEY SHOULD BE CONTACTING HEATHER ON THAT. IF THEY'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IT FURTHER, TALK ABOUT THAT OUTSIDE OF THE PRESENTATION WHILE I AM THERE, THEN I CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION AND THEN CONNECT THEM WITH WHOMEVER IS THE MORE APPROPRIATE PERSON. GREAT. WHICH PROBABLY WON'T BE ME, BUT AS CITY STAFF, I'LL BE THAT LIAISON. GREAT. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . ANY OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT PART ONE? ALRIGHT, UH, THEN LET'S NOW MOVE ON TO PART TWO. I, I GAVE US A ROADMAP, , I GAVE US A ROADMAP. ALL RIGHT. ARE THERE, AS, AS COMMISSIONERS WENT THROUGH THE PRESENTATION, WERE THERE ANYTHING THAT JUMPED OUT THAT YOU WOULD LIKE MORE? UM, COLOR ON THAT. THERE'S PERHAPS QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO ANSWER, UM, AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS NOW. COMMISSIONER NORWAY. THANK YOU, CHAIR. UH, FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANNA THANK THE AD HOC AND HEATHER, UM, FOR ALL THEIR TIME AND EFFORT PUT INTO THIS PROJECT. UM, I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT'S GONE INTO IT. I DO HAVE A FEW SUGGESTIONS THAT I HOPE MIGHT HELP, UM, MAKE THE PRESENTATION EVEN MORE EFFECTIVE AND ACCESSIBLE TO THE COMMUNITY. HOWEVER, THERE ARE NUMEROUS, UH, SUGGESTIONS. SO I'M WONDERING WOULD IT BE BETTER IF I JUST WORKED CLOSELY [00:40:01] WITH HEATHER OFFLINE TO CREATE, UM, TO ADD MY SUGGESTIONS AND THEN SEND IT TO THE AD HOC? UM, NO. I THINK THAT THIS IS, THIS IS A PART OF THE DISCUSSION AND OKAY. I THINK IT'S HELPFUL. OKAY. FOR THE FULL COMMISSION HERE. WELL, IN GENERAL, I BELIEVE, UM, THERE'S STILL TOO MUCH, UH, INSTITUTIONAL LANGUAGE. IT'S NOT VERY, UH, IT'S NOT PLAIN ENGLISH. I MEAN, I DON'T THINK RESIDENTS ARE GONNA UNDERSTAND. UM, I'M REFERRING TO, UH, UH, SLIDE NUMBER SIX. UM, SUPPORT AND GUIDANCE, EDUCATIONAL ADVOCACY, UH, CONFLICT OF INTEREST CODES. I DON'T THINK THOSE ARE SELF-EXPLANATORY AT ALL. UM, STEWARDS OF PUBLIC RESOURCES, I DON'T KNOW IF RESIDENTS, UM, SOME RESIDENTS WORK TWO JOBS AND THEY'RE GONNA SHOW UP. THEY'RE NOT GONNA UNDERSTAND WHAT ALL THIS IS. SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. UM, PERHAPS CONSIDER A LINK OR A QR CODE UNDER THE CURRENT COMMISSIONER SLIDE IN CASE, UH, THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO KNOW OR LEARN MORE ABOUT THE COMMISSIONERS UNDER THE BACKGROUND. UH, IT MIGHT BE NICE TO, UH, MAKE IT MORE CLEAR. UH, THERE ARE SEVEN COMMISSIONERS. UH, THEY SERVE FOUR YEAR TERMS WITH A LIMIT OF TWO TERMS. I THINK THE, UH, AGAIN, BACK TO THE AUTHORITY AND RESPONSIBILITIES, I THINK THE ITALICIZED PORTION, UM, WHERE WE HAVE A DISCLAIMER, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE PROMINENT. AND MAYBE THE HEADLINE, UH, A SUB-HEADLINE CAN BE WHAT CAN'T IT DO IT REFERRING TO THE COMMISSION. UM, AGAIN, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO, UM, TO DISTINGUISH THAT OR NOT TO BE MISTAKEN FOR AN INVESTIGATORY OR ENFORCEMENT AGENCY. I THINK THAT MIGHT CLEAR IT UP UNDER THE EARLY ACCOMPLISHMENTS SLIDE. UM, THERE'S A NUMBER OF BULLET POINTS, BUT THERE ARE NO WHYS, LIKE REWROTE CODE OF CONDUCT. THERE'S NO WHY, UM, ADVOCATED FOR A CITY TO CREATE, UM, A, A DEDICATED ETHICS OFFICER. THERE'S NO WHY. I DON'T KNOW IF THE WHY WOULD BE IMPORTANT, EXPLAIN WHY ALL THESE SHOULD MATTER, OR IT MAY MATTER TO RESIDENTS. UH, FOR EXAMPLE, I MEAN, WE CAN, UNDER THE WHY'S, DEPENDING ON WHICH ONE WE'RE LOOKING AT, WE COULD PUT GREATER TRANSPARENCY, UH, CLEAR ETHICS STANDARDS, UM, BETTER ACCESS TO PUBLIC INFORMATION AND MORE PUBLIC INPUT TO GOVERNMENT DECISIONS. THOSE ARE SOME OF THE WHY'S THAT I THOUGHT OF UNDER IN THIS SLIDE. UM, WHEN WE TALK ON, UH, SLIDE NUMBER EIGHT, LONG BEACH ETHICS COMMISSION, COLON ONGOING PRIORITIES, SOME OF THE HEADLINES I THINK CAN BE CHANGED. UH, FOR THIS ONE, FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT IS THE COMMISSION WORKING ON? THE ONGOING PRIORITIES? I, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE WORDING, I THINK SOMETHING MORE SIMPLE. UM, I, UM, MAYBE, PERHAPS ADD, UH, UNDER HOW CAN YOU GET INVOLVED IF SOMEONE HAS A, A COMPLAINT OR CALLS THE HELPLINE? CAN WE PUT ON HERE THAT IT'S AN ANONYMOUS, UH, PROCESS IF IT IS RIGHT, BUT AREN'T, BUT AREN'T THE SLIDES GONNA BE GIVEN TO THE PUBLIC, NOT THE NOTES? YES. SO WHAT HE IS ASKING FOR IS HAVE IT ON THE SLIDE. YEAH. UM, I KNOW THE NUMBER, THE EIGHT, THE 8, 3, 3 NUMBER'S ALREADY ON HEATHER'S SLIDE, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING IF IT'S EASIER JUST RIGHT HERE AS WELL. UM, I DO APPRECIATE THAT THE SLIDES ARE A LOT SHORTER AND CONDENSED THAN THEY WERE IN THE PREVIOUS DRAFT. UH, BUT I STILL HAVE, UH, THOSE CONCERNS ABOUT THE, THE LANGUAGE BEING USED AND PERHAPS NOT BEING UNDERSTOOD BY THE RESIDENTS. UM, THOSE [00:45:01] ARE MY SUGGESTIONS. UM, AGAIN, IN THE SPIRIT OF COLLABORATION AND APPRECIATION, UM, I HOPE THE AD HOC, UH, CONSIDERS THEM. AND, UM, WE CAN AT LEAST HAVE ANOTHER DRAFT, UH, BEFORE VOTING ON THIS. UH, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, I DO THINK THAT COMMISSIONER NOVE, YOUR COMMENTS ARE ALWAYS VERY HELPFUL. UM, AND AS YOU KIND OF NOTED SOME OF THEM, I DO THINK THAT UPON REFLECTION, CERTAIN OF THOSE TOPICS, I DO THINK IT WOULD BE NICE FOR THE AD HOC TO GET BACK TOGETHER, UM, AND REVIEW. IF YOU COULD SEND SOME OF THE LANGUAGE SUGGESTIONS TO HEATHER, UM, SO THAT SHE COULD THEN SHARE IT WITH THE AD HOC, I THINK THAT WOULD BE, UM, HELPFUL. WITHOUT RUNNING AFOUL OF THE BROWN ACT. UM, I ALSO TOOK NOTES, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M NOT MISSING THINGS. UM, AND AS ALWAYS, WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. UM, SO THANK YOU. SO WHILE IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'LL NOT, UM, APPROVE THE, UH, UH, PRESENTATION TODAY, I DO STILL THINK THAT ON THIS AGENDA WE DO HAVE THE TIME TO TALK THROUGH POTENTIALLY ITEMS THAT MIGHT NEED CLARIFICATION. SO I WOULD STILL LIKE TO DO THAT TODAY INSTEAD OF POSSIBLY TAKING TIME FROM A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM. UM, SO IF THAT'S ACCEPTABLE TO THE REST OF THE COMMISSION, I WOULD STILL LIKE TO GO FORWARD WITH THAT TODAY. OKAY. SO GOING THERE, IS THERE QUESTIONS ABOUT, UM, TOPICS THAT ARE IN THE PRESENTATION AS CURRENTLY CONSTITUTED? I, AND IF FOLKS ARE, SAY, I'LL BE BRAVE FIRST. UM, LIKE I SAID IN THE, THE ROADMAP TO THIS AGENDA ITEM, UM, I'M NOT SURE HOW THE POOL OF CANDIDATES FOR THE 2020, UM, INDEPENDENT REDISTRICTING COMMISSION WENT. AND WHILE I DON'T, UM, ANTICIPATING IF I WAS DOING THIS PRESENTATION, SPENDING A TIME ON IT, I WOULD LIKE TO BE ADEQUATELY PREPARED IF THERE WAS A QUESTION THAT CAME UP. UM, SO IF, YOU KNOW, I, I CAN TALK A BIT TO IT. YEAH. JUST, YOU KNOW, UM, I KNOW THAT WE HAD TO HAVE REPRESENTATION FROM ALL OF THE DISTRICTS. SO WE HAD APPLICANTS, UM, FROM EACH, AND THEY WERE DIVIDED BY EACH DISTRICT. UM, THIS WAS DURING COVID, SO AN AD HOC WAS SET UP AND WE INTERVIEWED THE APPLICANT. I, I THINK WE SELECTED APPLICANTS FOR INTERVIEW. SO NOT ALL APPLICANTS GOT INTERVIEWED. UM, BUT WE INTERVIEWED MULTIPLE APPLICANTS FROM EACH DISTRICT. UM, THOSE INTERVIEWS WERE CONDUCTED BY, UM, ZOOM OR TEAMS. I, I DON'T REMEMBER WHICH, WHAT, WHAT SOFTWARE WE WERE USING, BUT WE DID VIDEO CONFERENCES. UM, AND THEN THE, UH, UH, AD HOC, UH, HAD SHEETS WHERE WE SCORED THE, YOU KNOW, THE INTERVIEWS WERE ALL THE SAME QUESTIONS. AND SO WE SCORED EACH APPLICANT'S RESPONSES, UM, AND THEN MADE A SELECTION. UM, AND THEN THERE WAS, UH, ONE DISTRICT THAT I, I THINK THAT THERE WAS ONE REPRESENTATIVE THAT WAS AT LARGE. UM, I REMEMBER THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER WISES HAD TO COME DOWN TO THE COUNCIL, UH, CHAMBERS AND, UH, PUT, UH, THE, THE NAMES FOR THE AT LARGE THAT HAD BEEN INTERVIEWED AND APPROVED, BUT FOR THE FINAL SELECTION, SHE HAD TO, UH, DO LIKE ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE THE BALLS GO AROUND AND ROUND AND PICKED ONE OUT, UM, FOR THE FINAL, UH, SELECTION. UM, AND ONE OF THE CONCERNS, UM, WAS, UH, REPRESENTATION, UH, NOT JUST BY DISTRICT, BUT REPRESENTATION OF, UH, ALL OF THE DIFFERENT, UH, ETHNICITIES, RACIAL GROUPS, ET CETERA. AND, UH, UH, THAT, THAT WAS LARGELY BLIND TO US. UH, BUT AS IT TURNED OUT, WE DID HAVE A VERY, UM, DIVERSE, UH, REDISTRICTING GROUP. AND BECAUSE THIS WAS THE FIRST THING THAT [00:50:01] THE ETHICS COMMISSION DID, BECAUSE WE WERE CONSTITUTED JUST IN TIME, NOT REALLY WITH ENOUGH TIME, IT WAS A VERY TIGHT TIME SCHEDULE. UM, UH, WE HAD TO CREATE THE RULES, WRITE UP THE INTERVIEW QUESTIONS, GET THOSE APPROVED, ET CETERA, AND SET UP THE PROCESS. UM, WE DID PUT A MEMO TO THE FILE THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SAVED SOMEWHERE FOR THE 2030 GROUP. THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT THE AD HOC FELT COULD BE IMPROVED NEXT TIME. UM, AND THAT IS CONTAINED IN A MEMO THAT WE DID SUBMIT TO SOMEWHERE. I'LL HAVE TO FIND IT. IT IS SOMEWHERE BEING SAVED FOR THE GROUP THAT, THAT DOES THE 2030 CENSUS COMM, UH, VICE CHAIR. THANK YOU. YES, YES. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER P*****K FOR, UM, PROVIDING SOME OF THAT ADDITIONAL CONTEXT. I THINK AS I'VE, UM, BEEN SITTING HERE LISTENING, I'M, I WOULD, I'M REFLECTING ON WHAT COMMISSIONER ANNOVA SAID RELATED TO, UM, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY NOT, UH, HAVE A FUNDAMENTAL UNDERSTANDING OF THE WORK THAT WE DO, THAT, UM, AND LIKE THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE. WHAT IS THE REDISTRICTING COMMISSION? IF THERE IS A TIGHT EXPLANATION OF WHAT THIS WAS, WHY IT WAS CREATED, AND THEN WHAT OUR PARTICULAR ROLE WAS IN IT, UH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. AND I'D LIKE TO ADD, IF I MAY, THAT, UM, THIS WILL COME UP AGAIN RIGHT IN 2030, RIGHT. IT'S DONE. SO IT IS RELEVANT FOR THE RESIDENTS TO KNOW. YEAH. YEAH. IT IS DONE FOR EVERY CENSUS. UM, THEY HAVE TO LOOK AT WHERE THE POPULATIONS HAVE MOVED SO THAT YOU HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, A DI IT, IT WAS REWRITING THE DISTRICT LINES YES. IN LONG BEACH. YES. UM, BASED ON POPULATION. AND, AND THEY TRIED TO, THE REDISTRICTING COMMISSION ITSELF HAS TO ALSO LOOK AT, UH, AFFINITY GROUPS, IF YOU WILL, SO THAT YOU'RE NOT DIVIDING UP A CONCENTRATED GROUP INTO MULTIPLE DISTRICTS. WERE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT, UM, WHAT'S CURRENTLY WITHIN THE PRESENTATION AND, OR WOULD IT BE HELPFUL TO ALSO INCLUDE THIS IN THE NEXT AGENDA SO FOLKS COULD HAVE MORE TIME, UM, TO LOOK AT THE PRESENTATION AGAIN AND POSSIBLY COME WITH MORE THINGS THAT MAY WANT TO BE ELABORATED UPON BY F BY MEMBERS OF AD HOCS OR, UH, COMMISSIONERS THAT MAY HAVE SOME OF THE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE ON THE, ANY SUBJECT? OR IS THERE A BETTER WAY? CHAIR, I, I MIGHT, UM, UH, SUGGEST THAT WE, THAT THE COMMISSION HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT ONE MORE ITERATION OF, OF THE, UM, OF THE DRAFT, UH, PRESENTATION. UM, AND THEN, UH, TAKE A FINAL VOTE AFTER THAT FINAL REVIEW. OKAY. UH, COMMISSIONER CHOLET, AND ALSO, BEFORE WE FINALIZE ANY OF THE PRESENTATIONS, I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE CAN EXPECT TO BE GIVEN IN TERMS OF TIME BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TO ENSURE THAT WE FIT WITHIN THAT TIMELINE. UM, I KNOW MY DISTRICT, UH, I, I JUST DON'T, LOOKING THROUGH THE MATERIALS, I'M NOT SURE IT COULD BE COVERED IN THAT TIMEFRAME, ESPECIALLY WITH QUESTIONS. UH, SO THAT'S, I THINK WE NEED TO KIND OF EXPLORE HOW MUCH TIME WILL BE GIVEN BEFORE WE FINALIZE THE PRESENTATION. OKAY. UH, THE PRESENTATION WAS CREATED WITH A THOUGHT PROCESS OF HAVING FIVE TO SEVEN MINUTES. UM, IF THAT'S TO THE EXTENT THAT, THAT'S HELPFUL. UM, BUT, AND THE IDEA, THE IDEA ALSO IS THAT, UM, WHILE I DID OPEN UP THAT DOOR BY ASKING A QUESTION ABOUT THE INDEPENDENT REDISTRICTING COMMISSION, 'CAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT IT, UM, THE IDEA IS THAT YOU WOULD NOT HARP ON, OR NOT, HARP IS THE WRONG WORD, UM, NOT REALLY, UM, DISCUSS EACH AND EVERY ITEM IN AS FULLY AS WE COULD. WE COULD. I'M SURE MANY OF US COULD SPEAK AT LENGTH ON A LOT OF THESE DIFFERENT BULLET POINTS. UM, UH, BUT THAT WE ARE SIMPLY EXPLAINING WHAT WE DO, AND THEN TO HAVE THE BACKGROUND, IF [00:55:01] THERE IS THAT QUESTION, TO THEN ELABORATE ON IT. UM, BUT I TAKE YOUR POINT OF WE'RE NOT DOING A 20 MINUTE PRESENTATION HERE. , UM, COMMISSIONER, YOU GO. DID I SEE YOUR HAND? UH, UH, I GUESS, SO AS FAR AS THE, THE CONTENT, UM, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A PUBLIC DOCUMENT. UM, IS IT, AND MAYBE IT'S A QUESTION FROM, UH, MILLICENT, IS IT LAWFUL OR PROPER? I MEAN, COULD I TAKE THIS AND HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC ABOUT WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE ON THIS? OR WOULD THAT BE OUTSIDE OF SOME BOUNDS? I THINK YOU Q YOU MEAN PRIOR TO THE COMMISSION APPROVING THE PRESENTATION? YEAH. I MEAN, THIS IS A PUBLIC DOCUMENT. COULD I GO TO A NEIGHBOR AND SAY, HEY, THIS WAS POSTED, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING WE DISCUSSED PUBLICLY YESTERDAY. WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS ON IT? WOULD THAT BE OUT OF BOUNDS? YEAH. I MEAN, YOU WOULDN'T, YOU DON'T HAVE AUTHORIZATION TO DO THAT AS A, IN YOUR CAPACITY AS A COMMISSIONER. OKAY. UM, I THINK IT'S BEST TO SPEAK AS ONE VOICE IN THE COMMISSION. SO IF WE TAKE A DRAFT OF A DOCUMENT AND ASK THE PUBLIC WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT IT, I DON'T THINK, UM, THAT REALLY, UH, SERVES THE COLLECTIVE BODY, THE COMMISSION IN TERMS OF SPEAKING WITH ONE VOICE. OKAY. I MEAN, AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, WHEN I SAY A DRAFT, I'M TALKING ABOUT A PUBLICLY PRESENTED DOCUMENT. CORRECT. BUT IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE COMMISSION IS NOT APPROVING THIS TODAY. SO THAT'S WHY I, I HAVE SOME CAUTION ABOUT ASKING THE PUBLIC ABOUT A, A DOCUMENT THAT'S NOT APPROVED. THE, THE DOCUMENT IS ON THE PUBLIC. THIS DRAFT IS ON THE PUBLIC RECORD. SO YES, RIGHT NOW WE'RE ASKING FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. YES. UM, THE CHAIR WILL BE ASKING FOR PUBLIC COMMENT SHORTLY. COULD MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION SAY, HEY, WE'VE ASKED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. CAN WE KEEP THE COMMENT PERIOD OPEN? MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ALWAYS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SUBMIT WRITTEN COMMENTS AFTER, UH, AFTER THE MEETING, THE MEETING MEETING. UM, IT'S NOT, UH, TYPICAL THAT MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, AT ANY COMMISSION ASK FOR PUBLIC INPUT AFTER THE MEETING. RIGHT. THIS IS THEIR, THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE THAT, UH, FEEDBACK IF THE PUBLIC WANTS TO. OKAY. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I DIDN'T GO OUTBOUND ON ANYTHING I TRIED. OKAY. UH, LET ME ASK MY QUESTION IS, WOULD I KNOW IN THE PAST SOMEONE HAS SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE COMMISSION TO ME, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT SCENARIO, AND THEN I HAVE HAD TO MAKE A RECORD OF IT THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE HAD A EX PARTE CONVERSATION WITH ME ABOUT SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION WAS WORKING ON. I THINK IT WAS WHEN THE LOBBYING ORDINANCE WAS HAPPENING. SO WE'LL MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT THAT I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH X, Y, AND Z PERSON ON THE RECORD. UM, AND THIS WAS WHAT WE DISCUSSED IS THAT, AND IT'S PURE QUESTION DIFFERENT FROM THE SCENARIO THAT COMMISSIONER GILL HAS, UM, MADE A HYPOTHETICAL OF. RIGHT. A NEXT PARTY CONTACT IS TIED TO DUE PROCESS. RIGHT. SO IT'S, IT'S WHEN YOU'RE ACTING IN A QUASI OR, OR JUDICIAL CAPACITY. AND THE ISSUE IS THERE IS IF YOU'RE SPEAKING TO ONE PARTY, SUBJECT TO A HEARING AND NOT THE OTHER, IT'S, IT'S UNFAIR TO THE OTHER PARTY. 'CAUSE THEY CAN'T REFUTE WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT TO THE ONE PARTY. WHAT COMMISSIONER GILL IS TALKING ABOUT IS MORE OF, UM, UH, IT'S A LITTLE ATYPICAL IN TERMS OF ASKING THE PUBLIC FOR FEEDBACK FOR AN ITEM AFTER A MEETING THAT'S ALREADY WHERE IT'S ALREADY ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED. RIGHT. WE POST THE MEETING WITH THE AGENDA IN ADVANCE, AND THE PUBLIC CAN PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY AS, AS THEY CAN, UM, AT, AT THAT POINT. ALRIGHT. UM, ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. UM, IS, ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS, UM, ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER P*****K? I, I DO WANNA FIND THAT MEMO AND I'LL, I'LL GET WITH HEATHER TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT MEMO ON THE REDISTRICTING COMMISSION IS SOMEWHERE FINDABLE. THANK YOU, . UM, IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTION, IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS, I DO THINK WE NEED A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THIS AGENDA ITEM THAT DOES NOT, THAT ALLOWS US TO RECEIPT FINAL, UH, YEAH. WELL, YEAH. [01:00:01] UM, WOULD THAT BE IT? WOULD IT BE RECEIVING FILE HERE NOW? IT WOULD BE A RECEIVING FILE. IT, IT WOULD BE THE, UM, SAME MOTION WE MADE LAST MONTH. I JUST DON'T REMEMBER THE VERBIAGE WE HAVE, UH, THE LANGUAGE. I COULD READ THAT FOR YOU. UM, THAT'D BE HELPFUL. PHILIP , . I THINK I DID ON THE FLY LAST WEEK, BUT I HAVE A HEADACHE TODAY AND IT'S NOT, THE BRAIN IS NOT WORKING. , I THOUGHT WE LAID OVER THE VOTE TO OH, THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, THAT'S WHAT WE LAID OVER. SO THE, UH, LANGUAGE WE USED ON, UH, ITEM FIVE, A LAST, UH, LAST MEETING, UH, WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT THE COMMITTEE ON COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND APPROVING THE OUTREACH PRESENTATION WAS AS FOLLOWS, TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION AS AMENDED TO REQUEST AD HOC COMMITTEE ON COMMUNITY OUTREACH TO COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION WITH A PRODUCT THAT RESPONDS TO THE INPUT PROVIDED, WHICH I BELIEVE APPLIES TO THIS TODAY. THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. IS THERE ? IS THERE, UM, I'M NOW FORGETTING WHO WAS DO, YEAH. COMMISSIONER GID. DO YOU ACCEPT THAT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? I WOULD ACCEPT THAT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT AND, UH, COMMISSIONER GILLETTE. I ACCEPT. OKAY. THEN MAY WE, OH, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? SAY NONE. MAY WE THEN MAKE A VOTE ON THE ITEM AS AMENDED. THANK YOU. THE MOTION CARRIES AS AMENDED. THANK YOU. UM, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, WHICH IS THE RECOMMENDATION TO GRANT APPROVAL TO [7. 26-56414 Recommendation to grant approval to all Commissioners to contact Long Beach neighborhood associations on behalf of the Commission and request time at an upcoming neighborhood association meeting to share the community outreach presentation created by the Ad Hoc Committee on Community Outreach.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] ALL COMMISSIONERS TO CONTACT LONG BEACH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. UM, ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSION AND REQUEST TIME AT A, AN UPCOMING NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING TO SHARE THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH PRESENTATION CREATED BY THE AD HOC COMMITTEE ON COMMUNITY OUTREACH. MAY WE, I STILL, I STILL NEED A, UM, MOTION A SECOND EVEN TO LAY IT OVER. CAN I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. IT'S BEEN, UM, MOVED BY COMMISSIONER P*****K. IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR EATON. MAY WE LAY THIS ITEM OVER UN UNLESS OTHERS, OTHER COMMISSION FEEL DIFFERENTLY? WELL, SINCE WE DO HAVE TIME SURE. SHOULD WE TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS? SURE. IS THAT WITHIN OUR, AND THEN WE WILL, WE'RE NOT GONNA GRANT APPROVAL, SO WE'LL MAKE IT FRIENDLY 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE PRESENTATION, BUT AT LEAST WE COULD TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS. SURE. UM, AND, UH, I GUESS I, I WOULD START WITH MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WOULD BE TWO COMMISSIONERS AT EACH MEETING. WE WOULD TRY AT LEAST INITIALLY FIGURE OUT IF, IF WE'VE GOT MULTIPLE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS REPRESENTED ON THE COMMISSION, UM, TRY TO DO OUR HOME DISTRICTS IF THAT WORKS. I KNOW, HEATHER, YOU WANTED TO PARTICIPATE IN AS MANY AS POSSIBLE. YEAH, I MEAN, IDEALLY I SH I'LL PARTICIPATE IN ALL OF THEM IF I'M OKAY, GREAT. YOU KNOW, IF IT'S NOT ON CHRISTMAS DAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN I, I DON'T PLAN TO BE SCHEDULING ONE FOR CHRISTMAS DAY, SO DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT. UM, OTHER THOUGHTS? WELL, IF HEATHER IS PLANNING TO ATTEND OR WOULD ATTEND ALL OF THE MEETINGS, IS IT NECESSARY TO HAVE TWO COMMISSIONERS IN ADDITION TO HEATHER PRESENT AT EACH OF THE MEETINGS, I SHOULD SAY? I DON'T THINK SO. COMMISSIONER, GO, UH, I, I THINK THAT I WOULD AGREE WITH THE VICE CHAIR, BUT MAYBE THE FIRST FEW WHO WOULD BE AN ADVANTAGE TO HAVE EVEN THREE COMMISSIONERS, UM, YOU KNOW, AT THE FIRST FEW PRESENTATIONS, JUST TO SEE HOW THAT FLOWS. UM, SO THEN AS FAR AS POSSIBLE PROCESS, UH, I'M IN COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE, I'M A ON A NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD, AND OUR COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE, WE HAVE QUARTERLY MEETINGS OF EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BOARD COMBINED. SO WE DO THAT ON A, ON A QUARTERLY BASIS. SO I'M, I'M EXTREMELY FAMILIAR WITH ALL THE NEIGHBORHOOD BOARDS, IN, IN MY NCD FIVE, UM, PLUS OTHER, OTHER ORGANIZATIONS. SO I THINK THAT CERTAINLY LEVERAGING, [01:05:01] UH, NOW OF COURSE THERE'S ONLY SEVEN OF US, SO IT'S IMPOSSIBLE THAT WE LIVE IN ALL NINE . BUT I I THINK THAT, UM, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME LOW HANGING FRUIT AND SOME HIGHER UP IN THE TREE FRUIT, UH, AND CERTAINLY TO LEVERAGE THE LOW HANGING FRUIT AS MUCH AS WE CAN CAN. SO I THINK CERTAINLY IN COUNCIL CHAPTER FIVE, I THINK IT'D BE PRETTY EASY FOR ME TO, UH, TO, UH, COMMUNICATE THAT OUT, UH, AND TO SOME OF THE OTHER ASSOCIATIONS. SO HOPEFULLY THAT, UH, THAT CAN WORK OUT REALLY WELL FOR US, CERTAINLY TO GET, UH, THE PROCESS MOVING ONCE WE ARE READY FOR IT TO MOVE. UH, COMMISSIONER GILLETTE, DID I SEE YOUR HAND? UH, JUST TO, AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, COMMISSIONER GILL, YOU MENTIONED YOU'RE ON THE BOARD OF A, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. I JUST WANTED, UH, TO CLARIFY, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE PUTTING ON YOUR COMMISSION HAT VERSUS WHEN YOU'RE PUTTING ON YOUR BOARD HAT, YOU CAN'T PRESENT, MAKE THIS PRESENTATION YOUR CAPACITY AS A BOARD MEMBER. UM, NOR SHOULD I THINK YOU SHOULD PRESENT TO YOUR COMMISSION OR TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. UM, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR ON THE RECORD. THANK YOU FOR THAT. DID YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER GILLET? YES. I, I JUST WANTED TO FIND OUT HOW MANY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ARE WE LOOKING AT? I'M NOT TOO FAMILIAR WITH THE ENTIRE CITY. THERE, THERE IS A LIST ON NEIGHBORHOOD RESOURCES. UH, IT'S NOT PARTICULARLY ALWAYS CURRENT. I MEAN, IT, IT LISTS A COUPLE HUNDRED, BUT I, BUT I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY ABOUT 50 ACTIVE ORGANIZATIONS OR SO. UM, SOME ARE MORE ACTIVE THAN OTHERS. UM, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT NINE HAS FIVE TO SEVEN COUNCIL, LIKE FIVE HAS EIGHT OR NINE. UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, BUT, UH, THERE IS ACTUALLY A BOOK , BUT THE, THE BOOK IS NOT ALL THAT CURRENT, EVEN THOUGH THEY CLAIM IT'S CURRENT. IT'S NOT CURRENT. IT'S SHOWS ALMOST, I THINK ALMOST 200 OR SOMETHING. BUT YEAH, SO I, I THINK REALITY IS, IT'S PROBABLY 50 40 TO 50, HEARING THAT THERE'S ABOUT 50 AND, UH, CHAIR GI I MEAN, WHAT COMMISSIONER GILL, YOU MENTIONED THAT, UH, YOUR PARTICULAR DISTRICT HAVE QUARTERLY MEETINGS. WHAT, WHEN IS THE NEXT ONE? AND I, I, I GUESS I'M JUST WONDERING IF THE OTHER DISTRICTS HAVE SIMILAR QUARTERLY MEETINGS WHERE WE COULD HIT MANY OF THEM IN ONE MEETING. SO SPEAKING LESS THAN AUTHORITATIVELY, UM, THE, WHAT WE CALL RIVER RIVER, BECAUSE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER KERR'S, UH, DISTRICT GOES FROM ONE RIVER TO THE OTHER. SO RIVER RIVER, UH, OUR NEXT MEETING IS LATER THIS MONTH, AND THEN OUR NEXT ONE WILL BE EARLY NEXT YEAR. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, AND AGAIN, NOT AUTHORITATIVELY THAT DISTRICT NINE STILL HAS, UM, NEIGHBOR ASSOCIATION, MULTI NEIGHBOR ASSOCIATION MEETINGS. I KNOW THEY USED TO HAVE QUITE A FEW WHEN, UH, BEFORE, UM, REX WAS MAYOR. I'M NOT SURE WHAT IF THEY STILL HAVE QUITE A FEW TODAY, BUT THEY USED TO, SO I BELIEVE THEY STILL DO. SO I, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE OTHER AREAS AS FAR AS WHETHER THEY HAVE MULTI ASSOCIATION MEETINGS. I'M NOT SURE IF OTHERS MAY BE ON THE D ARE, SO WHY DON'T WE FIGURE THAT OUT? I'M SORRY. WE NEED TO FIGURE THAT OUT. YEAH. IF, IF THE DISTRICTS DO HOLD MULTIPLE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, MEET SINGLE MEETINGS WITH MULTIPLE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, WELL WE NEED TO FIND THAT OUT AND BRING IT BACK FOR THE NEXT, UH, MEETING. RIGHT. WHETHER WE'RE LOOKING AT NINE OR 15 OR 50. AND MAYBE I NEED CLARIFICATION ON THIS AS WELL. I'M SORRY. IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER, UM, THAT WANTS THE COMMISSIONER TO FILL IT? AND THEN MY NEXT QUESTION, UH, WITH RESPECT TO THE QUARTERLY MEETINGS, HOW BIG, HOW MANY ATTENDEES IN THE QUARTERLY VERSUS THE INDIVIDUAL NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING? BECAUSE IF, WHEN I'M THINKING QUARTERLY, AND MY IDEA IS IF WE COULD GRAB AS MANY PEOPLE ALL AT ONCE, THEN WE COULD HAVE SEVERAL COMMISSIONERS THERE. BUT IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT JUST MAYBE 20 AT THE QUARTERLY AND 30 AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THEN PERHAPS THAT'S NOT THE BEST SA CASE SCENARIO. SO I KIND OF WANNA UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT THE ATTENDANCE. SO, SO NOW THAT YOU JUST SPARKED THAT IN A LITTLE MORE THOUGHT PROCESS, THE RIVER RIVER MEETINGS, OUR QUARTERLY MEETINGS IN COUNCIL CIRCLE FIVE ARE O ARE ONLY THE BOARD MEMBERS OF THE ASSOCIATIONS. MM-HMM . NOT THE ASSOCIATIONS, NOT THE GENERAL, UM, RESIDENTS. WHAT IT DOES ALLOW US TO DO THOUGH, IS WE HAVE IN THE PAST USED THAT FORUM TO PUT TOGETHER LARGER MEETINGS BECAUSE [01:10:01] IT'S NOT AS IF YOU'RE TRYING TO REACH OUT AND FIGURE OUT WHO THESE DIFFERENT PEOPLE ARE. BY HAVING THOSE QUARTERLY MEETINGS, IT'S ACTUALLY EASY FOR THEM TO PUT TOGETHER. UH, TYPICALLY IT'S BEEN ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AIRPORT. SO FOR EXAMPLE, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S EASY TO GET A HUNDRED PLUS PEOPLE ON ONE SIDE OF THE AIRPORT IN COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE AND, AND 50 TO 80 PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AIRPORT IN COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE. SO POSSIBLY THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE THING THAT I THINK TO YOUR POINT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT IS, ARE THERE THESE AGGREGATIONS OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS THAT EITHER MEET IN BIG GROUPS OR WOULD MAKE IT EASY TO CREATE SOME BIG GROUP MEETINGS? MM-HMM . UM, DID YOU, OKAY. UM, ANY OTHER, UM, COMMENTS BY THE COMMISSION? UM, AND BEFORE WE TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK MAYBE I ALSO NEED TO CLARIFY MY THINKING HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF I HAD IN MY VIEW THAT WE'D GO TO ALL 40 TO 50, UM, MEETINGS. UM, I DON'T THINK WE'RE SEVEN PEOPLE. HEATHER'S ONE PERSON. THAT'S A LOT OF MEETINGS. UM, BUT THE IDEA WAS TO, UH, TO, UH, GO TO AS MANY AS WE CAN. AND THERE'S ALSO UNDERSTANDING THAT, UH, WE MIGHT NOT, WE PUT THE INVITATION, YOU KNOW, THE OFFER OUT, THAT MIGHT NOT MEAN WE GET INVITED TO EVERY MEETING THAT WE OFFER. UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I, I LIKE TO THINK OF US AS A PRETTY IMPORTANT COMMISSIONER. UM, I THINK OTHER PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE OTHER PRIORITIES THAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW. AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE IDEA IS TO GET OUT THERE TO DO AS MUCH, UH, OF WORK THAT WE CAN, UM, AND NOT NECESSARILY SEEK OUT PERFECTION IN LET'S, YOU KNOW, TRY TO GO ALL AFTER ALL OF THEM. I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, TO ME IT WOULD HAVE BEEN, UH, KIND OF THE BEGINNING OF THIS, ESPECIALLY AS WE SHARPEN OUR PRESENTATION, WAS TO REACH OUT TO THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, OUR COMMUNITY, UM, UM, MEETINGS THAT YOU KNOW OF, UM, TO ALLOW SOME OF THE, UM, FOR US TO START OUR PRESENTATION KIND OF CIRCUIT. UM, AND AS, ALTHOUGH WE HAVE LISTED THIS AS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, AND THIS IS A REMINDER TO PREP, UM, UH, DO SOME CHANGING ON THE LANGUAGE FOR NEXT TIME. UM, YOU KNOW, I DO, THE AD HOC IS ON COMMUNITY OUTREACH. UM, AND SO SOMETIMES THERE MIGHT BE OTHER COMMUNITY GROUPS, UM, IN THE CITY THAT MIGHT CROSS DISTRICT. UM, YOU KNOW, SO, UH, I KNOW I'M A PART OF USING I STATEMENTS. I'M A PART OF A COUPLE BLACK ORGANIZATIONS IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH. UM, THERE MIGHT BE, UM, AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT AT ONE OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS, AND THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY A QUOTE UNQUOTE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. UM, AND SO, UH, THOSE ARE JUST A THOUGHT THAT I HAD, UM, AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH THIS. UM, SO SEEK TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY WITHOUT SEEKING NECESSARILY PERFECTION ON EVERY SINGLE GROUP OUT THERE. UM, COMMISSIONER, UH, VE I SAW YOUR MIC ON FIRST, SO I'M GO TO, UM, THANK YOU CHAIR. UM, I APPRECIATE THE ENTHUSIASM, UM, AND THE DETAILED QUESTIONS ABOUT ON, ON THIS AGENDA ITEM, BUT IF I MAY, I SUGGEST THAT WE OBTAIN A COPY OF ALL THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND OR ANY UPCOMING TOWN HALLS HELD BY THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. UM, AND AT THAT POINT, WE CAN GO THROUGH THE LIST AND MAKE A SELECTION OF WHAT ASSOCIATIONS OR GROUPS WE WANT TO SPEAK TO. AND AT THAT POINT WE CAN DECIDE WHAT COMMISSIONERS, UH, WILL ATTEND WHAT MEETING. UM, I THINK WE'RE GETTING TOO MUCH INTO THE WEEDS IN TERMS OF NUMBER OF COMMISSIONERS. UH, HOW, HOW LONG IS THE MEETING? UM, HOW MANY MEMBERS I, AT THIS POINT, IT, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S REALLY RELEVANT. LET'S GET A, LET'S GET A LIST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS FIRST AND THEN ANY TOWN HALLS, BECAUSE WE CAN ALSO DO A TOWN HALL. UM, AND THEN AT THAT POINT WE CAN DISCUSS, UM, DETAILS ABOUT TIMES, COMMISSIONERS, ET CETERA. THAT'S HOW I WOULD DO IT. UM, COMMISSIONER, UH, SORRY, HEATHER , IF I MAY, I JUST WANTED TO, WE HAD DISCUSSED THIS BRIEFLY A COUPLE MONTHS AGO. THERE IS, UM, A DISTRIBUTION LIST THAT THE CITY HAS TO ALL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS THAT I CAN EASILY EMAIL, SEND AN EMAIL TO, TO GAUGE INTEREST FROM THESE GROUPS. UM, EACH COUNCIL OFFICE ALSO, YOU KNOW, HAS REGULAR GROUPS THAT THEY MEET WITH AND PRESENT TO BRING UPDATES TO. [01:15:01] WHEN I WAS DOING THIS ON MY OWN, GOING TO DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, I WAS ACTUALLY WORKING DIRECTLY WITH COUNCIL OFFICES, UM, AND COMING UNDER THEIR INVITATION. UM, SO THAT'S ANOTHER WAY TO EASILY SOLICIT WHO'S INTERESTED, WHO'S NOT. SO I JUST WANTED TO REMIND US THAT THERE'S AN EASIER WAY TO START THIS PROCESS THAN PERHAPS GETTING OUT THE PHONE BOOK AND, AND CALLING EVERY ASSOCIATION. THANK YOU, HEATHER. UM, IF I MAY, CAN I WORK MY WAY THIS WAY? YEAH, SORRY. DO YOU STILL HAVE, DID YOU STILL HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT? UH, NO. I, WHAT COMMISSIONER NOVE HAD JUST SAID, TALKED TO HIM ABOUT THE TOWN HALLS, WHICH WAS, WAS MY NEXT THOUGHT. BUT, UM, IS THERE ANY ISSUE WITH US GOING TO AN OFFICIAL TOWN HALL? I MEAN, WE CAN BE PART OF THOSE PRESENTATIONS BY A COUNCIL MEMBER. OKAY. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. YEAH, I MEAN, WE WILL FINE, I'LL DEFER TO MILLICENT, BUT IT JUST HAS TO BE INFORMATION IN, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A BACK AND FORTH DISCUSSION. IT'S PRESENTING INFORMATION SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO HERE DURING PUBLIC COMMENT. SO THE Q AND A PORTION IN THAT INSTANT WOULD NOT BE, THAT'S A GOOD POINT. I MEAN, YOU CAN HAVE Q AND A MILLICENT JUMP IN, BUT YOU CAN HAVE Q AND A RELATED TO WHAT'S IN THE PRESENTATION. YEAH, I THINK A, I THINK A, UH, GOOD RULE OF THUMB IS JUST TO SPEAK ABOUT WHAT YOU KNOW, SO, YOU KNOW, THE COMMISSION'S JURISDICTION, YOU CAN SPEAK ABOUT THAT. AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING, UM, UH, PARTICULAR LAKE CITY OPERATIONS, PARTICULARLY TO HEATHER'S ROLE THAT YOU CAN DIRECT THEM TO? HEATHER? SOUNDS GOOD. UM, VICE CHAIR, THANK YOU CHAIR. AT THE OUTSET, WE HAD, UH, TALKED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR LAYING OVER THIS AGENDA ITEM, BUT I WANTED TO, UM, PRESENT A POTENTIAL ALTERNATIVE SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SOME PROGRESS ON MOVING THIS ITEM FORWARD. COULD WE DO A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THIS AGENDA ITEM, TO GRANT APPROVAL TO HEATHER TO BEGIN OUTREACH TO THE NEIGHBOR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AS SHE DESCRIBED? MY, THE HESITATION THAT I'M HALF WITH THAT I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THE NOTION BECAUSE IT WILL TAKE TIME TO, UM, IT COULD POSSIBLY TAKE TIME TO GET ON SOME OF THESE, UM, UH, AGENDAS. BUT IF THERE IS A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT WILL, MIGHT SAY YES, YOU KNOW, RIGHT AWAY, UM, AND US NOT HAVE APPROVAL, UM, I DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY GET AHEAD OF OURSELVES AND WE HAVE NOT FINALIZED THE PRESENTATION, BUT, UM, I DO DEFER IF HEATHER THINKS THAT STARTING THE PROCESS NOW WOULD BE HELPFUL. YEAH, I MEAN, WE CAN DEFINITELY START SCHEDULING THESE. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO THE PRESENTATION. UM, SO WE CAN START SCHEDULING PROBABLY, I MEAN, IT'S GOTTA BE AFTER THE NOVEMBER MEETING, SO WE MAY GET A COUPLE BEFORE THE HOLIDAYS. I DOUBT A LOT OF THESE ASSOCIATIONS GO DARK DURING THE HOLIDAYS, SO I IMAGINE THAT THE BULK OF THIS WILL START IN JANUARY, FEBRUARY. I THINK WE COULD ALSO BE CLEAR THAT OUR INTENTION WOULD BE TO BEGIN THE PRESENTATIONS IN JANUARY AND THEN LOOK AT SCHEDULING WITH THEM. THANK YOU. OKAY. THAT SOUNDS GOOD. DO YOU WANNA OFFER THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT ? UH, SO I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, UH, TO THIS AGENDA ITEM, UH, THAT WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO GRANT APPROVAL TO THE ETHICS OFFICER. UH, TO, UH, BEGIN, SORRY TO, JUST TO INTERRUPT FOR A SECOND. SO SORRY. SO, UM, YOU CAN DIRECT HEATHER TO REACH OUT TO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, THE COMMISSION. UM, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S NECESSARY TO MAKE A FRIENDLY ALMA. YOU CAN JUST DIRECT HEATHER TO DO THAT. WHAT WE CAN DO IN TERMS OF A FRIENDLY IS, UM, WE CAN WORD IT SO AS TO MAKE CLEAR THAT THIS APPROVAL IS CONTINGENT UPON THE APPROVAL OF THE PRESENTATION, OR WE CAN LAY OVER THIS ITEM TO THE NEXT MEETING, WHICHEVER, UH, IS YOUR, UH, PREFERENCE. LET'S JUST LAY IT OVER. UM, BUT ARE, I MEAN, WE HAD A DISCUSSION, I THINK WE MIGHT BE TALKING NUTS AND BOLTS NOW, BUT ARE WE LAYING [01:20:01] AN ITEM OVER IF WE HAD A FAIRLY ROBUST CONVERSATION ABOUT IT? YEAH, IN THAT CASE, WE CAN DO A FRIENDLY OKAY. UM, THEN CAN, I'LL OFFER A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, UM, TO DISCUSS, UM, CONTACT OF LONG BEACH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSION AND REQUEST TIME AT AN UPCOMING NEIGHBORHOOD AND DIRECTION TO REQUEST TIME AT AN UPCOMING NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS AND COMMUNITY MEETINGS TO SHARE THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH PRESENTATION CREATED BY THE AD HOC COMMITTEE ON COMMUNITY OUTREACH. UM, IS THAT SOUND GOOD TO YOU? COMMISSIONER P*****K? ARE YOU OKAY WITH ? IT DOES. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEAR WE'RE STARTING IN JANUARY THAT WE'D BE SCHEDULING FROM JANUARY FORWARD. YEAH, I, I THINK THAT WAS A PART OF OUR DISCUSSION. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. AND COMMISSIONER OR VICE CHAIR EATON, IS THAT FRIENDLY OKAY. WITH YOU AS WELL? YES, IT'S, THANK YOU. OKAY. WELL THEN, UH, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, MAY WE PLEASE VOTE ON THIS ITEM AS AMENDED? I'LL GIVE A VERBAL, AYE I'M HAVING TROUBLE WITH MY VOTING. THAT WAS A, UH, AYE BY CHAIR COLEMAN. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES AS AMENDED. UM, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, RECOMMENDATION TO [8. 26-56415 Recommendation to discuss anticipated Ad Hoc Committees for upcoming projects; and, if appropriate, take action to dissolve, create or reauthorize Ad Hoc Committees.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] DISCUSS ANTICIPATED AD HOC COMMITTEES FOR UPCOMING PROJECTS AND AN APPROPRIATE, IF APPROPRIATE, TAKE ACTION TO DISSOLVE, CREATE, OR REAUTHORIZE AD HOC COMMITTEES. MAY HAVE A MOTION. MAY I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE. IT'S BEEN MOVED BY, UM, COMMISSIONER P*****K AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILLETTE. ANY COMMENTS BY THE COMMISSION? SAY NONE. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? CAN WE PLEASE TAKE A VOTE? MOTION CARRIES, UH, RECOMMENDATION, UH, SORRY. AGENDA [9. 26-56416 Recommendation to receive and file a monthly update from the Ethics Officer.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] ITEM NUMBER NINE, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A MONTHLY UPDATE BY THE, FROM THE ETHICS OFFICER. MAY HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COMMISSIONER GILL, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER NOVE. HEATHER, THANK YOU CHAIR. I IMAGINE THE CHAIR AND COMMISSIONER P*****K, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS IN A MINUTE, BUT JUST WANTED TO GIVE A QUICK FAIR ACT UPDATE. AS WE ALL KNOW BY NOW, IT DID COME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL YESTERDAY FOR A STUDY SESSION. I THINK IT'S THE O'S PERSPECTIVE AND MANAGEMENT'S PERSPECTIVE THAT THE STUDY SESSION WENT REALLY WELL. UM, AND I THINK THE CITY ATTORNEY WOULD AGREE TOO. COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE ENGAGED ASKING QUESTIONS AND PROVIDED THE NECESSARY FEEDBACK THAT STAFF HAS BEEN WAITING FOR. UM, SO DEFINITELY ABLE TO FINALLY, UH, START MOVING FORWARD. AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW IS THAT STAFF WILL INCORPORATE THE CITY COUNCIL FEEDBACK INTO AN UPDATED DRAFT. UH, THE MAYOR HAS REQUESTED THAT WE RETURN, UH, ONE MORE TIME TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL FEEDBACK BEFORE WE GET INTO THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE PROCESS, WHICH STARTS WITH THE MEET AND CONFER PROCESS. I JUST WANNA, UH, BRACE US ALL THAT THIS COULD BE THE LONG PART OF THIS WHOLE PROCESS. UM, THE MAYOR WAS, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA TO HAVE IT DONE BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, BUT THAT'S JUST NOT GONNA HAPPEN WITH THE MEET AND CONFER PROCESS. IT COULD BE A COUPLE MONTHS, IT COULD TAKE A YEAR. UH, SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND. SO ONCE THE MEET AND CONFER PROCESS WRAPS UP, THE CITY ATTORNEY, UH, MILLICENT AND HER TEAM WILL TAKE THAT FEEDBACK, UM, AND INCORPORATE THAT INTO A DRAFT, UM, AND MAKE EDITS AS NECESSARY, AND THEN RETURN TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE FIRST READING. UM, SO THAT'S HOW YESTERDAY WENT AND THAT'S HOW, UH, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. I DID WANNA SHARE TOO, THAT WE ARE KICKING OFF OUR LEADERSHIP ETHICS VIDEO SERIES, WORKING WITH LBTV AS A PARTNER, AND, UH, WE'RE KICKING THAT OFF WITH TOM MOCA, UH, DOING A TAPING WITH HIM AT THE END OF THIS MONTH TO TALK ABOUT GENERAL ETHICS, BUT REALLY TALK ABOUT THE RULES AROUND GIFTS SINCE IT IS THE SEASON. [01:25:02] UH, THE EMPLOYEE ETHICS SURVEY, WE FINALLY GOT THE GREEN LIGHT, UM, WE ARE LAUNCHING BY FRIDAY. UH, SO THAT WILL START WITH, UH, EMAIL CITYWIDE, UH, COMING FROM TOM MOCA. AND THEN WE'LL START SENDING IT OUT THROUGH OUR TRADITIONAL, UM, PATHWAYS, AND THAT WILL RUN UNTIL NOVEMBER 30TH. WE'VE ALSO STARTED, UM, OUR ANNUAL CAMPAIGN AROUND, UH, THE RULES AROUND GIFTS. AND THEN I SENT OUT AN EMAIL JUST BEFORE THIS MEETING ABOUT THE ANNUAL FILING OF WAIVER OF COMPENSATION FOR 2027. UH, THIS IS A FILLABLE DOCUMENT. ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS, UM, HAVE TO FILL THIS OUT, AND THAT'S DUE BY NOVEMBER 30TH. SO JUST LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT. WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU CHAIR. THANK YOU. UM, COMMISSIONER P*****K, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DISCUSS? OKAY, SURE. UM, YEAH, I, I'M GLAD OET AND MANAGEMENT WERE HAPPY WITH THE MEETING YESTERDAY. I CERTAINLY WAS PLEASED. UM, THINGS ARE MOVING FORWARD. UM, MOST OF THE ISSUES THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS RAISED WERE THINGS THAT, UM, DON'T REALLY, UH, GO AGAINST ANY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE ETHICS COMMISSION HAD MADE. UM, THEY ARE, UM, SEEKING MORE CLARITY ON, ON ISSUES. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, ETHICS COMMISSION RATE RECOMMENDED THAT, UH, ANY ENTITY THAT, UH, MAKES THREE OR MORE CONTACTS REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST. UH, SEVERAL OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ASKED FOR MORE CLARITY ON WHAT IS A CONTACT SO THAT IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE, WHAT WAS THE WORD, MILLICENT? YOU HAD A GREAT, GREAT WORD. INCIDENTAL CONTACT, INCIDENTAL CONTACT IN THE GROCERY LINE. UM, SO, UH, YEAH, I THINK THAT KIND OF CLARITY IN THE ORDINANCE IS, UM, APPROPRIATE. UM, THE MAYOR DID ASK THAT THEY ADD THAT WE ADD A SECTION, UM, RELATING TO CONTACTS WITH, UH, CITY STAFF AND ELECTEDS, UM, DURING THE RFP PROCESS. SO I, MILLICENT WILL BE DRAFTING SOMETHING ON THAT AND, UH, HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT WHEN, WHEN YOU'VE GOT A DRAFT. UM, UH, UH, CHIEF AND I BOTH, UH, SPOKE AS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, UH, MADE A FEW POINTS. UH, ONE ISSUE THAT DIDN'T GET ANY DISCUSSION AMONG THE COUNCIL IS THAT THE MAYOR'S RECOMMENDATION WAS THAT LOBBYISTS FILE QUARTERLY. UM, EVERY TIME I'VE APPEARED BEFORE THE COUNCIL OR THE GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS AND EFFICIENCY COMMITTEE, I'VE ASKED THAT THEY CHANGE THAT TO MONTHLY. I'M NOT GIVING UP, UM, BECAUSE THE FEELING, MY FEELING IS THAT, UM, THE LOBBYIST REPORTS ARE TO PROVIDE TRANSPARENCY PRIOR TO DECISION AND QUARTERLY FILING TYPICALLY WOULD, UH, WOULD, WOULD GO, WOULD, WOULD END UP HAVING THE FILING GO, COME OUT AFTER THE DECISION IS MADE. UM, THERE WAS ONE COMMENT, UM, BY THE MAYOR THAT THERE WERE SOME ALLEGATIONS THAT WE HAD RECOMMENDED GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND HE WOULD RATHER SEE THEM COME TO THE ETHICS COMMISSION. I'M NOT SURE HOW MILLICENT'S GONNA WRITE THAT ONE UP. UM, BUT, UH, I LOOK FORWARD TO LOOKING AT THE LANGUAGE. UM, UH, OVERALL I WAS VERY PLEASED WITH THE DISCUSSION. I THINK THE CITY COUNCIL WAS PREPARED. THEY'D READ THE MATERIALS AND THEY ASKED REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS AND MADE REALLY GOOD COMMENTS. CHIEF. YEAH, I MEAN, I ALSO, YOU HIT ALL THE POINTS. THE ONLY THING I WOULD HIGHLIGHT IS THAT THE RECOMMENDATION, JUST SO THAT THE COMMISSION UNDERSTANDS THE RECOMMENDATION BY THE MAYOR REGARDING THE R-F-P-R-F-P PROCESS WAS ABOUT BLACKOUT PERIODS, UM, SO THAT ANYONE IN FRONT OF, OR SO THAT IF THEY WERE GOING THROUGH AN ACTIVE RFP PROCESS, THEY COULD NOT DISCUSS IT WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS DURING THAT BLACKOUT PROCESS, WHICH, UM, WAS ENCOURAGING, YOU KNOW, KIND OF, UM, FURTHER, UM, REQUIREMENTS DURING, UM, AN ACTIVE BIDDING PROCESS, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS, UM, A GOOD SIGN. UM, OVERALL I LEFT WITH A POSITIVE, UM, UH, UH, FEELING THAT WE WERE TAKING THE STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. UM, I LOVE THE MAYOR'S TIMELINE OF BY THE END OF THE YEAR, UH, THE WE CONFER PROCESS. [01:30:01] I THINK, UH, HAVING SEEN THOSE PLAY OUT, UM, MIGHT BE A, UH, THROW A WRENCH IN THAT A BIT. UM, BUT THE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY AN IMPORTANT PROCESS. SO, UM, WE ARE NOT TRYING TO NECESSARILY RUSH THAT WHILE ALSO HOPING THAT WE DO GET, UM, THAT'S ACROSS THE FINISH LINE IN A TIMELY MANNER. UM, UH, BUT OVERALL I DID LEAVE FEELING THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WERE PRESENT UNDERSTOOD THE, UM, UM, UNDERSTOOD THE, UH, FAIR ACT AND WERE IN FAVOR OF PUSHING IT FORWARD, ALBEIT SOME, UM, POLICY DECISIONS THAT IT IS WITHIN THEIR PURVIEW TO MAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BY THE COMMISSION? OH, SORRY. YEAH, VICE CHAIR. UM, I JUST HAD A PROCESS QUESTION. I, UM, WANTED TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD NEXT STEPS CLEARLY. AND THAT IS THAT, UM, STAFF WILL INCORPORATE COMMENTS AND THEN, UH, PUBLISH A NEW DRAFT. IS THAT UPDATED DRAFT BEING BROUGHT BACK TO THE COUNCIL OR ARE WE SHIFTING IMMEDIATELY INTO THE MEET AND CONFER PROCESS? YEAH, I CAN ANSWER THAT. UM, SO PART OF THE DISCUSSION WAS ALSO ADDING ANOTHER LAYER OF COUNCIL REVIEW. SO TYPICALLY, OR THE WAY IT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED LAST YEAR WAS THAT WE WOULD, WE ALREADY GOT STAFF OR DIRECTION TO GO DRAFT IT, GO THROUGH MEETING AND CONFER, AND THEN BRING THE ORDINANCE AS A FIRST READ. UH, YESTERDAY THE MAYOR ASKED THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY ONCE WE BASICALLY UPDATE THE, THE DRAFT FRAMEWORK AND ADDRESS SOME OF THEIR COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS YESTERDAY TO BRING THAT TO COUNCIL. UH, SO THEY HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE IS THIS IN THE DIRECTION THAT THEY'RE, UM, THEY WANT. SO I THINK WHAT WE'LL END UP DOING IS, UM, UPDATING THE DRAFT, UM, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING THEIR COMMENTS AND, AND CLEARING UP ANY OF THE, THE LOOSE ENDS. AND THEN WE'LL BRING THAT TO COUNCIL, UM, AND THEN HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY OTHER DIRECTION AND FEEDBACK. THEN WE WOULD GO THROUGH MEET AND CONFER. UM, THINGS MIGHT TWEAK FROM THERE. UM, BUT THEN WE CAN BRING BACK AFTER MEET AND CONFER THE FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE AND EXPLAIN ANY OF THE OTHER CHANGES THAT MAY HAVE HAPPENED THROUGH THE PROCESS. WILL COMMISSIONER P*****K, WILL THE ETHICS COMMISSION SEE THE DRAFT BEFORE IT GOES TO THE CITY COUNCIL? UH, NO. IT WOULD JUST GO STRAIGHT TO COUNCIL AND THEN THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE PUBLIC PRO COMMENT PROCESS. COMMISSIONER, WHAT? I JUST WANTED TO THANK, UH, COMMISSIONERS AND CHAIR AND FOR, FOR ATTENDING THE MEETING LAST NIGHT. UM, I SHOULD HAVE STAYED LONGER SO I COULD, WE HAVE BEEN THERE AS WELL, BUT I APPRECIATE YOU REPRESENTING THE ETHICS COMMISSION. THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY. UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS BY THE COMMISSION? SEEING NONE, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? CAN WE TAKE A VOTE ON THIS ITEM PLEASE? NO, A CHAIR. I'LL TAKE A VERBAL. I, OKAY. THAT'S I FROM CHAIR COLEMAN. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. UM, MILLI, WOULD IT BE OKAY IF I TAKE AGENDA ITEM 11 BEFORE 10, PLEASE? IS THAT ACCEPTABLE? WE, WE WILL STILL GET TO 10. THAT'S WITHIN YOUR, UM, RIGHTS AS CHAIR. ALL RIGHT, THEN I'M GOING TO TAKE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11, RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS POTENTIAL [11. 26-56418 Recommendation to discuss potential agenda items for future Commission meetings.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] AGENDA ITEMS FOR FUTURE COMMISSION MEETINGS. CAN I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PLEASE. UH, HAS BEEN MOVED BY COMMISSIONER GILL. BEEN SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER NOVE. UM, I BELIEVE IT'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER NOVE AND A SECOND BY, UH, COMMISSIONER GILLETTE. OH, IT'S THE WRONG, SORRY. UM, MY SCREEN IS WRONG. UM, IT'S BEEN MOTIONED BY COMM COMMISSIONER NOVE. IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILLETTE. UM, ANY COMMENT? THANKS, CHAIR. UM, I HAVE TWO ITEMS, UH, FOR CONSIDERATION. UM, ONE IS TO DISCUSS THE 2027 MEETING CALENDAR AND RECOMMEND CANCELING THE JULY, 2027 REGULAR ETHICS COMMISSION MEETING TO ALLOW STAFF AND COMMISSIONERS A SUMMER BREAK AND TIME TO RECHARGE. AND I HAVE A SECOND ITEM, UH, DISCUSS THE POSSIBILITY OF AMENDING THE COMMISSION'S BYLAWS TO FORMALLY ESTABLISH THE CANCELLATION OF THE REGULAR [01:35:01] JULY MEETING ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER, NOR ANY OTHER, UM, POTENTIAL AGENDA ITEMS. OKAY. ANY COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC? UH, MAY WE PLEASE VOTE ON THIS ITEM? MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO BACK TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10. RECOMMENDATION TO CANCEL THE ATHLETE COMMISSION [10. 26-56417 Recommendation to cancel the Ethics Commission regular meeting of Wednesday, November 11, 2026, and reschedule the meeting to a different day in November.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] REGULAR MEETING OF WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 11TH, 2026, UM, AND RESCHEDULE THE MEETING TO A DIFFERENT DAY IN NOVEMBER. MAY I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PLEASE? IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COMMISSIONER GILLETTE. IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR EATON. UM, UH, I'LL TAKE THIS ONE. IT WAS, UM, BROUGHT TO, UM, OUR ATTENTION THAT, UM, THERE ARE OTHER COMMISSIONS THAT, UM, POSSIBLY GO DARK IN NOVEMBER. I THINK THAT IS THIS DAY, POSSIBLY A HOLIDAY AS WELL. IT'S, IT'S A VETERAN'S DAY. A VETERAN'S DAY DISCUSSION. YEAH, IT'S A VETERAN'S DAY AS WELL. UM, AND SO THE IDEA HERE IS TO THAT THERE MIGHT BE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION THAT HAVE THIS DAY OFF, UM, FROM THEIR WORKPLACES AND MAY ENJOY A, UM, FULL DAY OF REST. UM, AND SO TO POSSIBLY FIND, UH, TO, TO CANCEL THIS DAY AND THEN RESCHEDULE IT TO, UM, JUST ANOTHER DAY IN NOVEMBER SO THAT WE DON'T, UM, NECESSARILY MISS A MONTH, BUT THAT WE ALSO RESPECT, UM, THE CALENDARS OF, UM, OUR COLLEAGUES. ANY COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? SURE. COMMISSIONER GILL. UH, I WOULD STRONGLY SUPPORT THAT WE DO, UH, SCHEDULE A MEETING IN NOVEMBER. I THINK WE'VE GOT A COUPLE THINGS ON THAT WOULD BE ON THE POSSIBLE AGENDA THAT, UH, WOULD NOT WANNA WAIT TILL DECEMBER. YEAH, I DEFINITELY, I DON'T, I DON'T SUGGEST THAT WE CANCEL, UH, DON'T HAVE A MEETING IN NOVEMBER. UM, I AM JUST SEEKING OUT IF, UH, PEOPLE WILL ARE FINE WITH THE 11TH, IF THEY WOULD PERHAPS LIKE A DIFFERENT DAY IN NOVEMBER. IT'S UH, IS IT A CITY? IS THE 11TH A CITY HOLIDAY? OKAY. . ANY OTHER COMMENT? COMMISSIONER NORBY. THANKS, CHAIR. UM, I DO HAVE THE HOLIDAY WITH THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES, BUT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ATTEND THE MEETING. UM, IF THE COMMISSION FEELS LIKE IT WANTS TO STAY ON SCHEDULE VICE CHAIR, MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO LEAVE IT ON THE NOVEMBER 11TH DATE. THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR. ANY OTHER COMMENTS BY THE COMMISSION? UM, WELL, , UH, ACTUALLY THEN WHAT IT'S SOUNDING LIKE IS THAT, UM, THE COMMISSION IS COMFORTABLE WITH THE 11TH MAINTAINING. SO IF THAT IS TRUE, AS WE GO TO THIS VOTE, REMEMBER THAT IF YOU HIT YES, IT WOULD MEAN TO CANCEL THE MEETING AND CHANGE IT. AND IF YOU HIT THAT NO BUTTON, IT WOULD MEAN THAT NOTHING CHANGES. JUST AS WE THINK ABOUT HOW WE ARE GOING TO VOTE, UM, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM, UM, THEN LET'S TAKE A VOTE. IT'S GONNA FAIL. MISERABLE . UM, MY VERBAL IS NO. VE THAT WAS, UH, COMMISSIONER VE NO. YEAH. MOTION FAILS. , ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANY NON-AG [PUBLIC COMMENT Opportunity to address the Ethics Commission on non-agenda items. Each speaker is limited to three minutes to make their comments unless extended by the Chair.] AGENDA ITEM? SEEING NONE, ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? [ANNOUNCEMENTS] UM, WITH THAT, WE MAY [ADJOURNMENT] BE ADJOURNED. ALL RIGHT, THE [01:40:01] TIME IS 4 36. YOU'RE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.