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          THIS ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT, WE'RE STARTING THE MEETING. 
          CAN I ASK EVERYBODY TO TAKE THEIR SEATS? WE'RE GETTING READY TO START THE MEETING NOW. 
          WE STILL HAVE ONE. 
          OH, THIS IS AT 9 0 4. 
          SO ONE MORE MINUTE. 
          EVERYBODY HAS ONE? YES. 
          ON APPLE, THEY'RE INCORRECT. 
          MORNING. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          I THINK WE HAVE ONE MORE PERSON COMING TOO. 
          WE HAVE ONE. 
          WE CAN GET STARTED. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          I'M DEBORAH CASTRO, CHAIR OF THIS COMMISSION, AND I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE BELMONT CHO PARKING AND BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT AREA ADVISORY COMMISSION TO ORDER TODAY, OCTOBER 15TH, 2026. 
          CLERK, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL BOTH DEBORAH CASTRO PRESENT? NIKKI CLAIRE PRESENT. 
          JEFFREY KAZAR. 
          HERE. 
          HEATHER DUNCAN. 
          MICHAEL JENSEN. 
          HERE. 
          KENDRA MILLER. 
          HERE WE HAVE QUORUM. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA JUMP RIGHT IN. 
          UH, THE FIRST ITEM IS RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE BELMONT SHORE PARKING AND BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT AREA ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING OF THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 17TH, 2026. 
          MAY I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THIS ITEM? MOTION APPROVED. 
          SECOND. 
          NIKKI GLASS MOTION. 
          ALL. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ANY, ANY COMMENTS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES HERE? COMMISSIONERS THE PUBLIC. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY CLARIFICATION? ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THAT ON THE MINUTES? CLERK, PLEASE CALL FOR VOTE. 
          COMMISSIONER CLAIRE? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER COZA. 
          AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER DUNCAN? AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER JENSEN AYE. 
          AND COMMISSIONER? PARDON? COMMISSIONER MILLER. 
          AYE. 
          AND CHAIR CASTRO. 
          AYE. 
          MOTION IS CARRIED. 
          GREAT. 
          NEXT ITEM, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE PRESENTATION FROM THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENTS DEPARTMENT REGARDING BELMONT SHORE PUBLIC SAFETY OPTIONS. 
          MAY I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THIS ITEM? MOTION. 
          SECOND, MAY WE PLEASE HAVE THE REPORTS? YES, ABSOLUTELY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. 
          UH, MY NAME IS CHRISTOPHER KUNZ. 
          I'M YOUR, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY OF LONG BEACH. 
          UM, HE'S PRINTED ODDLY, BUT IT'S FINE. 
          UH, SO A FEW MONTHS AGO, THE CITY COUNCIL ASKED OUR, UM, DEPARTMENT TO TAKE A LOOK AT OPTIONS, UM, FOR IMPROVING PUBLIC SAFETY HERE AT THE SHORE. 
          UM, AND THAT IS WHAT OUR STAFF HAS BEEN UP TO. 
          UM, SO, UM, AS YOU KNOW, THERE HAVE BEEN, UM, DIFFERENT LATE NIGHT INCIDENTS WITH, UM, THINGS AS INNOCUOUS AS COMPLAINTS ABOUT NOISE OR DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR TO AS SERIOUS AS SHOOTING AND BY THE INCIDENTS. 
          UM, SO, UH, MY DEPARTMENT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OVERSEES PLANNING, BUILDING CODE ENFORCEMENT, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND ALL, ALL THINGS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY BASICALLY. 
          WHEREAS YOU MAY BE MORE FAMILIAR WITH, UH, PUBLIC WORKS, BUT HANDLES SORT OF ALL THINGS ON, UM, PUBLIC PROPERTY. 
          UM, SO WE TOOK A LOOK AT WHAT, UM, OPTIONS EXISTED, UM, TO SORT OF ENHANCE, UM, PUBLIC SAFETY, UM, HERE ALONG THE SECOND STREET CORRIDOR. 
          LOOKING AT SORT OF SOME DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT CAN BE, UM, TRIGGERS. 
          SO THOSE FACTORS INCLUDE, UM, SORT OF REGULATION, HOW ALCOHOL SERVICE, UM, WORKS AND WHETHER IT'S BAR, RESTAURANT, LIQUOR STORE, UM, OVERALL BUSINESS OPERATIONS, LATE NIGHT, UM, RULES AND WHERE, UH, BUSINESSES CAN BE LOCATED. 
          UM, AND THEN WHAT RESOURCES WE HAVE, UM, IN PD IN ORDER, UH, TO ADDRESS PEOPLE COMMITTING CRIMES. 
          REGULATION OF THE SIDEWALK, WHICH I THINK YOU ALL KNOW, IS REALLY CHALLENGING BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE DIFFERENT STATE LAWS AND INTERACTIONS THERE. 
          AND THEN HOW WE, UM, PAY FOR ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT, UH, CITY SERVICES. 
          UM, SO WE CAME UP WITH A WHOLE MENU OF OPTIONS. 
          IT STARTS WITH OPTION A, UM, 
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IN YOUR PACKET. 
          UM, AND JUST WANTED TO GO OVER THOSE THIS MORNING. 
          UM, SO OPTION A IS THE ENHANCED STATUS QUO. 
          SO IT'S NOT A DO NOTHING OPTION, BUT IT IS A NO CHANGE IN, UM, REGULATION OPTION. 
          UM, SO OVER THE LAST, UH, MONTHS, YOU'VE SEEN INCREASED, UM, POLICE PRESENCE, UM, HERE ALONG SECOND STREET. 
          YOU'VE ALSO, UM, SEEN GREATER COORDINATION BETWEEN MY DEPARTMENT AND FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT, WHICH IS BECAUSE BUSINESS LICENSES, UM, TO WORK WITH BUSINESSES AND INCREASE THEIR, UM, LEVEL OF COMPLIANCE. 
          UM, AND CONDITIONS HAVE IMPROVED. 
          UH, IT'S NOT TO SAY THINGS ARE PERFECT, BUT, UM, THERE HAVE BEEN, UM, FEWER MAJOR INCIDENTS AND, UM, PD HAS A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH ALL THE BUSINESSES HERE ON THE CORRIDOR AND, AND THINGS HAVE IMPROVED. 
          SO THAT'S SORT OF THE BASELINE. 
          UM, THE SECTION, THE SECOND OPTION WAS A SPECIAL DISTRICT CREATION WITH ENHANCED RULES AND FEES. 
          SO YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR OR MAY NOT WITH DOWNTOWN. 
          DOWNTOWN, UM, HAS A BIG CONGLOMERATION OF BARS AND RESTAURANTS. 
          IT'S CALLED THE DOWNTOWN DINING AND ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT. 
          IT'S A COMBINATION OF CARROTS AND STICKS. 
          IT'S EASIER TO OPEN A BUSINESS DOWN THERE. 
          IT'S ALSO EASIER FOR THE CITY TO SHUT DOWN A BUSINESS IF THEY DON'T FOLLOW THE RULES. 
          UM, SO, UM, WITHIN A DISTRICT SUCH AS THAT, UM, THERE ARE ADDITIONAL, UM, REQUIREMENTS. 
          AND THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE TRIGGERED IF YOU'RE OPEN AT PAST 10:00 PM IF YOU'RE OPEN PAST 12, MIDNIGHT IF YOU'RE A NIGHTCLUB, IF YOU HAVE LIGHT ENTERTAINMENT. 
          UM, AND THEN THERE'S A POINTS BASED SYSTEM. 
          AND IF YOU GET VIOLATIONS, THERE'S A WAY TO REVOKE THAT. 
          UM, OPERATING LIST. 
          WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT, UM, IF WE CREATED, IT WOULDN'T BE AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT, BUT A DINING DISTRICT OR SOME KIND OF SIMILAR REGULATORY TOOL HERE IN THE SHORE. 
          UM, AND THERE WOULD BE FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. 
          SO EVERY BUSINESS WOULD PAY IT, 'CAUSE EVERY BUSINESS BENEFITS FROM, UM, POLICING SERVICES AND, UH, OTHER PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES. 
          BUT, UM, RESTAURANTS WOULD PAY IN MORE. 
          AND AT THE TOP OF THE SCALE, UM, BARS AND NIGHT CLUBS WOULD PAY ABOUT $2,000 MORE IN ANNUAL, UM, BUSINESS TAXES. 
          UM, SO WE LOOKED AT DOING THAT JUST ON SECOND STREET, WHICH IS SORT OF OPTION B ONE. 
          UH, WE'VE LOOKED AT ALSO INCLUDING DOWNTOWN. 
          AND THEN, UM, THAT CREATES SOME EFFICIENCIES ON THE CITY SIDE, BUT MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE DESIRABLE, UM, TO EVERYONE. 
          SO THOSE WOULD CREATE, UM, FEES THAT WOULD PAY FOR ADDITIONAL POLICING, ADDITIONAL BUSINESS LICENSE ENFORCEMENT, ADDITIONAL PROTOCOL. 
          WE LOOKED AT SOME OTHER OPTIONS BECAUSE COUNCIL ASKED US TO, THIS STARTED AS A BELMONT, UH, ITEM, BUT WHEN I GO TO COUNCIL AT NINE COUNCIL MEMBERS, SO AT LEAST NINE OPINIONS, SOMETIMES MORE THAN THAT, EVEN AMONGST THE NINE OF THEM . 
          UM, SO THEY ASK, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT WOULD SOMETHING THAT'S MORE CITYWIDE LOOK LIKE? UM, SO WE LOOKED AT A CITYWIDE ALCOHOL COORDINATOR. 
          SO RIGHT NOW YOU'VE GOT PD, YOU'VE GOT FIRE, YOU'VE GOT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT, YOU'VE GOT ALL THESE DIFFERENT ENTITIES THAT TOUCH DIFFERENT PARTS OF ALCOHOL REGULATION IN SOME CITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, IN PHILADELPHIA, THERE IS ONE PERSON, UM, WHO IS THE OVERALL COORDINATOR, UM, FOR ALCOHOL POLICY AND ENFORCEMENT AND PHILADELPHIA, THEY'RE CALLED THE NIGHTMARE. 
          UM, HERE WE, THEY WOULD BE CALLED SORT OF THE, UM, CITYWIDE ALCOHOL COORDINATOR. 
          UM, AND THEY, THEIR GOAL IS NOT TO SHUT ANYONE DOWN. 
          IT'S TO, IF THERE'S A, A COMPLAINT ABOUT A BUSINESS, GO OUT AND SEE WHAT THE REAL ISSUE IS, TALK TO THE COMPLAINING PARTY, TALK TO THE BUSINESS, SEE WHERE THEY CAN MEET IN THE MIDDLE AND, AND COEXIST. 
          UM, SO, UH, COULD ACCOMPLISH A LOT OF GOOD, UM, WOULD HAVE TO BE PAID FOR. 
          SO AGAIN, THAT'S THE, THE TRADE OFF. 
          THERE WOULD BE ABOUT A $250 FEE ON YOUR BUSINESS LICENSE IF YOU SERVE ALCOHOL. 
          SO IF YOU'RE A COOKIE SHOP AND YOU DON'T SERVE ALCOHOL, IT DOESN'T AFFECT YOU. 
          UH, BUT FOR THOSE WHO DO IT WOULD, UH, OPTION D IS JUST CHANGING THE RULES FOR NEW BUSINESSES. 
          WE CAN MAKE IT MORE REGULATED AND DIFFICULT TO OPEN A NEW BUSINESS, HAVE STRICTER RULES FOR LIQUOR STORES, FOR RESTAURANTS AND BARS. 
          UH, THE DOWNSIDE TO THIS APPROACH IS THAT'S A GOING FORWARD REGULATION. 
          SO THAT DOESN'T REALLY HELP WITH ANY OF THE EXISTING BUSINESSES. 
          OPTION E, WHICH IS, UH, PUSH ON THE STATE, THEY INCREASE RESOURCES AT A, B, C. 
          ALCOHOL ENFORCEMENT IS ACTUALLY NOT A MUNICIPAL THING. 
          IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DONE BY THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. 
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THE DEPARTMENT OF, UM, ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CONTROL. 
          THOSE ARE REALLY HARDWORKING, GOOD PEOPLE. 
          THERE'S VERY FEW OF 'EM. 
          AND THEY ARE SPREAD OUT OVER A WHOLE REGION, UM, OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, NOT JUST, UM, PALM BEACH. 
          SO THIS WOULD HAVE THE CITY ASK THE STATE TO INCREASE THOSE RESOURCES, NO GUARANTEE THAT THEY WOULD. 
          UM, SO THE ONE, UM, THAT IMPACTS THIS COMMISSION, WHICH IS, UM, OPTION F, G AND H, UM, WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING, BUT COUNCIL ASKED US TO LOOK AT ALL OPTIONS. 
          SO OPTION F WOULD LOOK AT WHETHER THIS COMMISSION SHOULD CONTINUE, SHOULD IT, UH, NOT CONTINUE, SHOULD IT BE SOMEHOW CONSOLIDATED, UM, WITH THE BID. 
          UM, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, UM, WE HAVE A SEPARATE PARKING COMMISSION, A SEPARATE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, A SEPARATE, UH, RESIDENT ASSOCIATION AND CITY STAFF ARE ATTENDING MEETINGS WITH ALL OF THOSE ENTITIES. 
          AND, UM, COORDINATING AND, AND SPENDING MONEY. 
          THERE IS SOME INEFFICIENCY THERE. 
          UM, THIS PARKING COMMISSION IS VERY UNIQUE. 
          IT'S THE ONLY ONE IN THE CITY THAT KEEPS A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE PARKING, UM, REVENUE THAT IT GENERATES. 
          UM, SO WE PRESENTED FOR COUNCIL WHAT SOME BENEFITS, UM, AND CONCERNS WOULD BE IF THE COMMISSION WERE EITHER REORGANIZED OR DISSOLVED. 
          UM, OPTION G UM, OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE DONE GOOD WORK AND PARKING RATES HAVE INCREASED PRETTY DRAMATICALLY HERE IN THE S STORE. 
          BUT OPTION G LOOKS AT OTHER PARKING OPTIONS THAT WOULD BRING IN REVENUE THAT COULD BE SPENT ON PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE LOOKING AT THE CUTOFF TIME IN THE EVENING WHERE PARKING COSTS END RIGHT NOW IS AROUND 10:00 PM. 
          UM, IF PARKING RAN ALL THE WAY UNTIL 2:00 AM UM, BAR AND THE NIGHT PATRONS WOULD PAY FOR PARKING, THAT WOULD GENERATE SUBSTANTIAL REVENUE. 
          IT WOULD ALSO MAYBE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE, UM, TO THINK ABOUT TAKING AN UBER OR NOT DRIVING, UM, BECAUSE WE ARE HAVING ISSUES WITH PEOPLE HAVING LOUD ARGUMENTS AND PARKING LOTS VERY LATE AT NIGHT. 
          UM, THIS WAS ALSO LOOKED AT REPLACING THE ACTUAL, UM, KIND OF LEGACY METER STRUCTURES, UM, WITH PARKING STATIONS AND ONLINE PAYMENTS. 
          UM, WHICH FREES UP ADDITIONAL ROOM ON THE SIDEWALK ITSELF AND BRINGS IN, UM, REVENUE MORE RELIABLY BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO PHYSICALLY SERVICE THE LEADERS. 
          UM, AND THAT MONEY COULD GO TOWARDS POLICE OVERTIME OR OTHER, UM, PUBLIC SAFETY USES. 
          AND THEN THE LAST OPTION IS OPTION H, UM, WHICH IS THE UNDERLYING FEE THAT PROPERTY OWNERS PAY INTO THE COMMUNITY FACILITY DISTRICT COULD BE ADJUSTED UPWARD. 
          IT'S BEEN TRIED BEFORE AND WASN'T, UM, SUPPORTED, BUT THAT DEFINITELY WOULD BE A WAY TO, UM, UH, FINANCIALLY SUPPORT ADDITIONAL, UH, SECURITY, UM, OR PUBLIC SAFETY RESOURCES. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S THE MENU WE CAME UP WITH AS WE'VE TALKED TO DIFFERENT GROUPS. 
          I THINK THE BEST WAY I COULD DESCRIBE IT IS THERE'S NO CONSENSUS. 
          ONE GROUP WANTS THIS, ANOTHER GROUP WANTS THAT. 
          ANOTHER GROUP SAYS DO NOTHING. 
          ANOTHER GROUP SAYS YOU'RE NOT DOING ENOUGH. 
          THAT'S TOTALLY FINE. 
          THAT'S DEMOCRACY IN ACTION. 
          SO, UM, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS PRESENT THESE OPTIONS TO CITY COUNCIL IN NOVEMBER AND HAVE THEM GIVE US SOME MORE CLEAR DIRECTION. 
          AND THEN AFTER THEY PROVIDE THAT DIRECTION, WHATEVER THAT DIRECTION IS, WE'LL WRITE UP THE ACTUAL LEGAL INSTRUMENTS, BE IT ORDINANCE OR RESOLUTION. 
          UM, SO THAT'S MY STORY AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS WE MAY HAVE. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          GREAT PRESENTATION. 
          I KNOW I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, BUT LET'S GO ALONG AROUND THE FIRST AND ON THE COMMISSIONER'S SIDE HERE AND GET SOME CLARIFICATIONS IF YOU HAVE SOME. 
          THEN WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT, THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO OUR DISCUSSION. 
          SO FIRST, OKAY, MIKE, BASED ON THIS REPORT, YOU'RE NOW GONNA PRESENT THAT TO COUNCIL AND COUNCIL CAN OBVIOUSLY VOTE IN NOVEMBER, WHATEVER. 
          IS IT GONNA GO BACK TO COMMUNITY WIDE VOTE SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE? LIKE IE TWO YEARS FROM NOW WHEN WE GO BACK TO ELECTIONS AGAIN? OR HOW ARE THEY GONNA ESTABLISH WHAT THE DECISION IS? IT'S JUST GONNA BE BASED ON WHAT CITY COUNCIL COMES UP WITH. 
          WELL, WE'RE GOING TO GROUPS SUCH AS YOURS AND OTHERS. 
          AND ON THE LAST PAGE THERE'S SOME INFORMATION ABOUT HOW TO PROVIDE SOME PUBLIC INPUT. 
          UH, WE'RE GONNA TELL COUNCIL WHAT PUBLIC INPUT WE RECEIVED. 
          I ENSURE PEOPLE WILL ALSO SHOW UP AT, UM, AT CITY COUNCIL. 
          BUT ULTIMATELY IT'S, IT'S, UM, THE DECISION IS FOR THE THE ELECTED COUNCIL. 
          IF YOU WERE GONNA DO THE PASSPORT, WHERE WOULD THE FUNDS COME FROM THAT? ARE YOU GONNA REMOVE THE, UM, METERS? 
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AND THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER COST. 
          YEAH, THERE IS ONE TIME COST, BUT UM, WILL YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT? YEAH, UH, I'D SAY IT'S SAYS PASSPORT. 
          UH, THE WAY WE DO VENDOR SELECTION IN THE CITY IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. 
          USE PASSPORT. 
          ROLLING OUT ANY DIGITAL PAYMENT THING IS REALLY THE COST OF SIGN. 
          AND THEN WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN, THE FEE GETS PASSED ON TO THE END USER. 
          SO IT'S NOT A HUGE COST OF ROLLING OUT A, A DIGITAL PAYMENT PLATFORM OTHER THAN THE UPFRONT COST OF THE SCIENCE. 
          WELL, BUT IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO REMOVE THE METERS, AND THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN WE'VE ASKED FOR PARK, UH, PARKLETS, UH, IT'S A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR EACH METER TO BE REMOVED. 
          I THINK THAT'S A DIFFERENT THING. 
          YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT PAYING SOMEONE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG HERE, BUT I THINK YOU'RE PAYING FOR THE TIME THAT A METER IS OUT OF COMMISSION. 
          SO YOU'RE PAYING FOR THE REVENUE IT WOULD HAVE GENERATED. 
          NO, IT'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS TO, TO REMOVE THE METER. 
          WE DO IT IN HOUSE WITH OUR TEAM. 
          I THINK IT ENDS UP LIKE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT WE, LIKE, IT'S JUST THE LABOR COST FOR, AND THAT WOULD BE, WOULDN'T GO BACK. 
          THAT WOULD BE PASSED ON TO, I THINK IT, RYAN, TELL ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THE PRICE THAT IT COST FOR ROGER AND TEAM TO CUT DOWN THE METERS AND PATCH IT OVER THAT TIME IS ALLOCATED BASED ON THE PERCENTAGE OF PARKING SPACES INSIDE THE SHORE. 
          YEAH, IT'LL BE ON THE TIME, THEIR TIME IN THAT AREA AND HOW LONG IT TAKES TO DO IT. 
          UM, YOU'RE SAYING WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY PHYSICAL MULTI SPACE METERS? JUST SIGNS? I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK WE WOULD DO THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK WE WOULD IF WE WERE EVER GONNA REPLACE THE SINGLE SPACE METERS HERE DO NEED TO BE REPLACED. 
          BUT THE METERS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE INSTALLING IN DOWNTOWN IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS OR SO, THEY'RE ABOUT 3,500 A PIECE. 
          AND I THINK THEY'RE SERVICING ABOUT 30 SPACES PER, SO YOU WOULD HAVE FAR LESS METERS AND KNOW THEY'RE ABOUT 3,500 A PIECE, $480 A YEAR IN SOFTWARE. 
          UM, AND I'M SORRY, JUST TO CLARIFY. 
          SO THE METERS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, IF WE WERE TO GO WITH THE PASSPORT WOULD BE REMOVED. 
          YOU GUYS ALREADY HAVE PASSPORT RUNNING HERE? MM-HMM . 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE, LIKE FOURTH STREET WHERE YOU GO UP AND YOU DO A QR CODE AND IT'S A, IT'S A STREET NUMBER. 
          WE'RE GONNA KEEP THE, THE METERS. 
          WELL, NOTHING'S BEEN DECIDED. 
          WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT WHAT, WHAT IS THE COST WE NEED? WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE, I I THINK WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IN CLARIFICATION, AND WE MIGHT HAVE TO COME BACK WITH SOMETHING ELSE HERE. 
          SO WE HAVE A DISCUSSION IS ARE WE REMOVING THE, THE EXISTING METERS AND WHAT IS THE COST TO DO SO YOUR IMPLEMENTATION? YEAH. 
          AND DO WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION TODAY? I QUESTION FOR YOU GUYS. 
          OKAY. 
          DO YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS? NEXT GO. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO, UM, I THINK I SHOULD SAY FIRST AND FOREMOST I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THE PARKING COMMISSION. 
          I WOULD NEED TO THINK THAT THE MILLION DOLLARS OR SO THAT'S GENERATED HERE IN BELMONT SHORE WOULD GO TO THE GENERAL FUND. 
          I KNOW YOU'RE NOT ADVOCATING FOR THAT, BUT I'D LIKE TO GET THAT ON RECORD THAT I'D LIKE TO KEEP THAT MONEY HERE IN THE SHORE. 
          UM, SECOND THING, YOU KNOW, YOU COMMENTED ON MORE POLICE PRESENCE AND UM, YOU KNOW, I WALK A LOT AT NIGHT AND I, WE DON'T SEE THEM REALLY THAT OFTEN. 
          I LITERALLY JUST SEE THEM LIKE HANGING, NOT HANGING OUT, BUT STANDING, WORKING IN THE CHASE PARKING LOT. 
          BUT I DON'T REALLY SEE THEM THAT OFTEN. 
          IS THERE ANY SORT OF RECORD OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT MORE LOOKS LIKE THAT THEY'RE HERE AND MAYBE YOU DON'T KNOW THAT NOW, BUT YEAH, SO I DON'T HAVE A COMMITTED TO MEMORY, BUT, UM, THEY, THEY HAVE SPENT, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN A MILLION DOLLARS IN OVERTIME TO INCREASE POLICE PRESENCE HERE IN THE SHORE. 
          I WILL TELL YOU ONE OF THE FORTUNATE THINGS ABOUT, UH, BELMONT SHORE IS CRIME IS LOWER, OVERALL CRIME IS LOWER IN EAST DIVISION THAN IT IS IN SOUTH DIVISION. 
          UM, BUT THEY HAVE MOVED RESOURCES HERE BASED ON THE REQUEST FROM THE PUBLIC AND THE COUNCIL MEMBER AND THE SPECIFIC LATE NIGHT, UM, ISSUES HERE. 
          ARE THEY HERE LATER? 'CAUSE WHEN I SEE THEM IT'S USUALLY, MAYBE IT'S 'CAUSE I'M OUT AT EIGHT OR NINE AND THEY'RE THERE, I DON'T SEE THEM. 
          NO, THEN YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE THEM. 
          SO THE OR 10, THE CONCERTED EFFORT REALLY HAS TO DO BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 11:00 PM AND 3:00 AM PERFECT. 
          UM, TO BE ABLE TO CONTROL SOME SPECIFIC ITEMS. UM, AND THAT KIND OF LATE NIGHT OPERATION, YOU STILL MAY NOT SEE THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT WALKING UP AND DOWN THE STREET. 
          SO THEY DO STAGE SOMETIMES IN THE TODAY'S PARKING LOT. 
          AND THEN WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS, THEY'RE ABLE TO RESPOND WITHIN ONE TO THREE MINUTES TO IMMEDIATELY BE THERE AND DEAL WITH THAT INCIDENT. 
          SO IT'S DIFFERENT THAN SORT OF LIKE A WALKING FEET OR A BICYCLE FEET. 
          UM, THEIR LEG HEIGHT OPERATIONS ARE MORE, UM, RAPID RESPONSE, UM, TO, TO WHATEVER CALL COMES IN ON THE, THE RADIO. 
          OKAY. 
          I THOUGHT THEY WOULD BE WALKING TO BE A DETERRENT. 
          NOT SAVING. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN I HAVE UM, ONE QUESTION AND ONE COMMENT. 
          UH, YOU MENTIONED OUR METERS, JUST SO YOU KNOW, ONLY GO TO 7:00 PM HERE. 
          SO NOT 10:00 PM I THINK THE LOCKS GO TO TAP. 
          NO, GO TO SEVEN. 
          JUST SO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. 
          BUT THE THING THAT IS NOT ADDRESSED IN ANY OF THESE IDEAS, UM, 
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AND EVERY TIME WE BRING IT UP, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS HEAR OUT STATE LAW AND STATE LAW, BUT IT'S ALL THE FOOD VENDORS AND ALL THE THINGS THAT ADD TO PEOPLE LOITERING AFTER THEY LEAVE THE BARS. 
          YOU KNOW, IT REALLY FEELS LIKE IT'S AN ATTACK ON THE BARS AND THE RESTAURANTS AND I'M SURE EVERYTHING CONTRIBUTES. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, WE, WE ALWAYS SAY, OH, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING. 
          BUT THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING TO BE DONE WITH THE PEOPLE SERVING FOOD AND MUSIC AND SELLING ALCOHOL THAT ARE NOT LEGAL. 
          THEY DON'T PAY ANY BUSINESS LICENSES REALLY. 
          RIGHT? LIKE, AND THAT'S JUST NEVER TALKED ABOUT. 
          I'M NOT HERE TO SAY THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO. 
          I'M HERE TO SAY THAT IT'S DIFFICULT. 
          SO WE DO HAVE VENDOR TASK FORCE. 
          THERE ARE VENDORS THAT WE'VE TAKEN AWAY THEIR, UM, CART AND THEIR FOOD. 
          UM, IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF A GAME AT WHACK-A-MOLE BECAUSE SOMETIMES A TRUCK WILL SHOW UP AN HOUR LATER TO, UM, REPLACE THAT EQUIPMENT. 
          UM, WE ARE PROHIBITED UNDER STATE LAW FROM, UH, CITATIONS, BUT IF WE CAN SHOW THAT IT'S A FOOD SAFETY ISSUE, WE CAN SEIZE THE, UM, THE RAW FOOD AS WELL AS THE COOKING EQUIPMENT. 
          UM, AND VENDOR TASK FORCE HAS BEEN OUT HERE IN OTHER PLACES. 
          BUT IT IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT. 
          IS THERE ANY THOUGHT, AND THIS WILL BE MY LAST QUESTION FROM THE CITY TO KIND OF PUSH BACK ON THE STATE ORDINANCE, IT MAY NOT BE NECESSARILY A GOOD ONE. 
          WE HAVE PUSHED BACK OUR, OUR LOBBYISTS, OUR STRATEGIES HAS PUSHED BACK. 
          BUT IT'S EXTREME. 
          IT'S, IT, IT'S THE STATE SENATE FROM LONG BEACH IS THE AUTHOR OF THAT BILL. 
          SO WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN IN MUCH OVER RECEPTION, UM, WITH OUR PERSPECTIVE. 
          I'D LIKE HER TO TALK TO RESIDENTS. 
          SO WAS THAT INTRODUCED BY GARCIA? NO, NO, NO. 
          LISA GON OKAY. 
          SORRY. 
          NOT THAT SHE'S ABOUT GOOD THINGS TOO, BUT JUST TO FACTUALLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THAT'S, THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S FOR, THAT'S FOR BILL. 
          AND I THINK HERE WHERE WE HAVE TO ACTUALLY DEAL WITH THE REAL ISSUES, IT'S A NIGHTMARE. 
          LIKE I AM RESPONSIBLE FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT AND PEOPLE CALL IT IN AND THEN THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO. 
          AND THAT'S MAKES THE CITY LOOK INCOMPETENT. 
          IT MAKES IT TO WHERE THE ISSUE'S NOT ADDRESSED. 
          UM, BUT AT THIS STATE WHERE THEY GET TO PONTIFICATE AND NOT DEAL WITH THE DAY TO DAY, THAT'S ABOUT EMPOWERING SMALL BUSINESS AND EMPOWERING IMMIGRANT BUSINESS AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE VERY NICE, UM, SENTIMENT. 
          SO THERE'S A, A DISCONNECT, UM, BETWEEN SORT OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN SACRAMENTO AND THEN WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING ON THE GROUND IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO NOW WE'RE GOING, WE'RE DOING CLARIFICATIONS, THEN HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT, THEN WE'LL STILL HAVE TIME TO DISCUSS IT FURTHER AMONGST OURSELVES. 
          HEATHER, I, ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU JEFF. 
          UM, WITH REGARDS TO THE B ONE WITH THE, UH, FEE ASSESSMENT, UM, THOSE WOULD BE COLLECTED PRIMARILY TO ABLE TO IN, UH, ENFORCE AND INCREASE ENFORCEMENT OF EXISTING LAWS, RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          BY WHO? IT'D BE A COMBINATION OF, UH, 300,000 IN LEASE OVERTIME AND THEN A SMALLER AMOUNT IN, UM, COMMERCIAL CODE ENFORCEMENT, WHICH IS BUSINESS LICENSE ENFORCEMENT. 
          AND THEN PHYSICAL CODE ENFORCEMENT, WHICH IS MY STAFF AND THE VENDOR TASK FORCE THAT DOES THE FOOD VENDORS AND THAT KIND OF EVERYTHING ELSE. 
          SO WITH REGARD TO SAY LIKE LATE NIGHT CRIME ACTIVITY, THAT'S PRIMARILY THEN POLICE OVERTIME PRIMARILY BECAUSE ANY OTHER ISSUES SOUND LIKE EITHER YOUR TASK FORCE OR I GUESS MY PRIMARILY. 
          PRIMARILY BUT NOT EXCLUSIVELY. 
          SO WHAT HAPPENS? UM, SO THE FOLKS THAT GO IN UNDERCOVER, WHICH ARE CALLED SOCIETAL CRIMES, UM, SOMETIMES THEY WILL GO IN FROM PD AND IF IT'S A CLEAR VIOLATION, THEY WILL, THEY'LL TAKE ACTION OR THEY'LL, UM, CALL THE SERGEANT AND THE SERGEANT WILL SEND IN A UNIFORM PERSONNEL TO TAKE ACTION. 
          BUT SOMETIMES IT'S MORE SUBTLE. 
          SO IT'LL BE, THEY'RE IN A BAR, THEY'RE NOT SERVING ANYONE UNDERAGE, THERE'S NO, UM, FIGHT OR IT HAPPENED MORE RECENTLY IN A RESIDE AT A BAR, BUT THEY PERPETUATE LEAVE THE BACK DOOR OPEN, WHICH IS LIKE WHY PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT NOISE. 
          SO IN THAT CASE, POLICE HANDS IT OFF. 
          SO THEY CALL, UM, LORI BOSS WHO WORKS IN COMMERCIAL BUSINESS LICENSE ENFORCEMENT AND SHE WOULD FOLLOW UP WITH THE BUSINESS BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF A MORE ADMINISTRATIVE THING RATHER THAN A CRIMINAL ISSUE. 
          SO, UM, THERE ARE DIFFERENT AGENCIES THAT DO DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT THEY'RE ALL COMMUNICATING WITH EACH OTHER AND THEY HAVE, UM, THESE DIFFERENT HANDOFFS. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          ONE ONE, I'M SORRY. 
          WERE YOU DONE? I JUST HAD ONE MORE FOLLOW UP. 
          I THINK WHAT MY CONCERN IS IS, 
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AND I'M KIND OF FOCUSING JUST ON LIKE CRIME YEAH. 
          POLICE RELATED THINGS AND THE FACT THAT WE HAVE, UM, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OFFICERS TO BEGIN WITH. 
          SO IT FEELS LIKE THIS IS RELYING ON OVERTIME, WHICH, I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S LIMITED. 
          I MEAN, HOW MUCH OVERTIME CAN ANY ONE OFFICER SQUEEZE IN? AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF THAT MONEY OR WOULD IT BE CONS, UH, WOULD SOME OTHER ADDITIONAL SECURITY, UH, ENTITY B, YOU KNOW YEAH, THOUGHT ABOUT PRIVATE SECURITY IS AN OPPORTUNITY ALSO. 
          UM, AT THE POINT THAT IT BECOMES A FULL BLOWN CRIME. 
          PRIVATE SECURITY'S FIRST CALL IS TO PD. 
          SO IF THE RESOURCES AREN'T THERE, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY ACCOMPLISH A LOT. 
          YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. 
          MORE OFFICERS WOULD BE BETTER. 
          WE ARE TRYING TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE POLICE FORCE, BUT YOU, IT TAKES A YEAR FOR SOMEONE TO KIND OF GET RECRUITED AND THEN THEY SPEND ALMOST A YEAR IN THE ACADEMY AND THEN THEY'RE A JUNIOR OFFICER. 
          SO WE VALUE THEM AS HUMANS, BUT THEY'RE REALLY NOT ACCRETIVE TO THE POLICE FORCE FOR LIKE TWO YEARS AFTER THAT. 
          SO WE, UM, LAST YEAR CLASS 100, WE HAD THE MOST OFFICERS IN THE HISTORY OF, UM, THE POLICE FORCE. 
          WE ARE ADDING TO THE SIZE OF THE POLICE FORCE. 
          BUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS, UNTIL THAT CATCHES UP, WHAT DO YOU DO? SO OVER TIME HAS BEEN HOW WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO, UM, MAINTAIN RESOURCES AND CONTROL. 
          AND THE OTHER THING PD IS DOING NOW IS SENIOR OFFICERS, UM, GO BACK TO THEIR ROUTE AND THEY DO PATROL ONCE A MONTH. 
          SO IT, IT COULD BE A CAPTAIN, IT COULD BE A COMMANDER, UH, IT COULD BE A DEPUTY CHIEF. 
          THEY DO WANT PATROL SHIFT EVERY MONTH JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN KIND OF A, A LEVEL OF, UM, SUPPORT AND CONTROL BECAUSE PATROL IS WHO'S ACTUALLY INTERACTING, YOU KNOW, WITH RESIDENTS, UM, AND BUSINESSES ON A DAY TO DAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO CHRIS, COULD YOU DEFINE WHAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A DINING DISTRICT VERSUS, YOU KNOW, THE ENTERTAINMENT SCENE THAT YOU HAVE? YEAH, SO ONE IS JUST NOMENCLATURE. 
          'CAUSE WE HEARD FROM A LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT. 
          UM, AND I'M TRYING TO BE RESPONSIVE TO THAT. 
          BUT TWO, IT IS ALSO, UM, THERE'S NOT A TON OF LIVE ENTERTAINMENT HERE IN, UM, THE SHORE IN TERMS OF LIKE PEOPLE BRINGING IN IN BANDS AND PERFORMERS. 
          THAT IS MORE OF A THING DOWNTOWN. 
          AND THAT IS PART OF, UM, HOW THE DOWNTOWN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT WORKS BECAUSE IT'S EASIER, UM, YOU CAN OBTAIN THOSE APPROVALS WITHOUT A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT DOWNTOWN. 
          SO THAT, THOSE ARE, WOULD BE THE MAIN DIFFERENCES. 
          AND AS FAR AS HOW DOWNTOWN HAS, THEY HAVE SOME LIMITED OPEN CONTAINER OR THEY PILOTED THAT? CORRECT. 
          THEY PILOTED THAT. 
          UM, THEY REALLY SAID THEY WERE DOING THAT, BUT THAT'S ONLY DURING SPECIAL EVENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE SOMETHING I THINK NONE OF US THOUGHT OF, LIKE IT'S REALLY HARD TO GET A SIGN UP FROM YOUR INSURANCE COMPANY  TO DO THOSE KIND OF OPEN CONTAINER THINGS, BUT I THINK THEIR ASSOCIATION, DLDA HAS BEEN WORKING ON THAT ISSUE. 
          AND SOMETIMES THERE'S LIKE A BLANKET INSURANCE POLICY FOR A SPECIAL EVENT, BUT, UM, TURNS OUT CALIFORNIA'S DIFFERENT THAN NEVADA AND YOU CAN'T JUST, LIKE, EVEN IF YOU MAKE IT LEGAL, UM, YOU CAN'T JUST DO IT. 
          UM, BECAUSE OF ALL OF THESE OTHER FACTORS, HOW ARE WE MONITORING, MONITORING, EXCUSE ME, THE INDIVIDUALS WHO JUST SHOW UP IE AT A GENTLEMAN IN FRONT OF THE, THE RITE AID THAT WOULD SIT THERE AND BANG ON HIS BONGOS FOR SIX HOURS. 
          WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT THAT? IS JUST THAT, IS THAT A LICENSE ISSUE? IS THAT JUST ANYBODY CAN DO THAT OR DO YOU, 'CAUSE THEY OBVIOUSLY IT'S GONNA DISRUPT YEAH. 
          THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT IS GONNA DISRUPT THE RESIDENTS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THERE'S OBVIOUSLY BEEN A LOT OF CHANGES IN SOCIETY, NOT ALL OF 'EM POSITIVE. 
          SO SOMEONE CAN JUST SORT OF BANG ON DRUMS. THAT ACT ALONE IS SELF-EXPRESSION. 
          THEY CAN'T RECITE IT FOR THAT. 
          BUT IF IT IS AFTER 7:00 PM IT IS A NOISE VIOLATION. 
          IF THEY'RE BLOCKING THE SIDEWALK, IT COULD BE AN A DA ISSUE. 
          SO WE, WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES IN DIFFERENT WAYS. 
          BUT THE SORT OF, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, JUST BAD HUMAN BEHAVIOR IS NOT ILLEGAL PER SE. 
          UM, WE HAVE TO WORK, UM, TO, TO FIND WAYS TO ADDRESS IT, UH, WITHIN EXISTING LAWS. 
          SO LIKE THE NOISE VIOLATION HAVE ONE PERSON, UM, THAT DOES NOISE CONTROL. 
          UM, SO, YOU KNOW, 
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THEY CAN ONLY BE IN ONE PLACE AT ONCE. 
          BUT, UM, THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE CAN DO. 
          AND TYPICALLY THAT'S COMPLAINT BASED OR WE GET A REFERRAL FROM PD AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL DO SOME TARGETED NOISE. 
          SO AFTER 7:00 PM IF SOMEBODY DOING THAT, JUST CALL THE POLICE. 
          YEAH, I WOULD CALL, UM, DISPATCH OR, UM, YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU MENTIONED SOME CITIES HAVE ONE PERSON THAT IS THAT ALCOHOL OFFICER. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, HOW DOES, HOW DOES THAT, WELL WHAT'S THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THAT AND WHAT WOULD, WHAT KIND OF TEETH DOES THAT GIVE US BEYOND WHAT THE A B, C GIVES US? UM, IT'S REALLY, UM, IT'S NOT DIFFERENT TEETH PER SE. 
          IT IS JUST MORE EFFECTIVE. 
          SO THERE'S MORE THAN 6,000 CITY EMPLOYEES MM-HMM . 
          AND SOMETIMES SOME PEOPLE ARE RUNNING IN THIS DIRECTION, IN THIS DIRECTION, IN THAT DIRECTION. 
          IT GIVES A SINGLE POINT OF CONTACT FOR BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS TO, UM, FUNNEL ISSUES WITH. 
          AND THEN THAT PERSON'S WHOLE JOB IS TO RESOLVE THOSE ISSUES. 
          UM, SO, UH, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW SUCCESSFUL IT WOULD BE HERE. 
          I CAN JUST TELL YOU WHEN WE TALK TO PHILADELPHIA, IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE VERY PROUD OF. 
          AND THEY SAY LIKE THEIR WHOLE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY IS HAVING MORE RESTAURANTS AND NIGHTLIFE, BUT THEY CAN'T DO THAT UNLESS THOSE BUSINESSES CAN GET ALONG WITH THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE NEARBY. 
          AND THEY, THEY, UM, IDENTIFY THIS PROGRAM AS REALLY HELPING THEM BE ABLE TO DO THAT. 
          AND WHAT TYPE OF AUTHORITY WOULD THEY HAVE, I GUESS IS WHAT I'M GETTING AT TO ACTUALLY MAKE IT WORK FOR BOTH SIDES? UH, SO, UM, THEY HAVE ACCESS TO LEADERSHIP AT PD AND AT PERMITTING AND, UH, THEY ARE BEING ABLE TO SORT OF HOLD A BUSINESS', YOU KNOW, ABILITY TO OPERATE AND RENEW THEIR LICENSE. 
          UM, SO THEY HAVE THAT, UM, STICK AND THEN THEY KNOW THAT THEY HAVE REGULAR, UM, COMMUNITY MEETINGS WITH RESIDENTS AND THEY KNOW THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO STAND UP AND, YOU KNOW, BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S SORT OF THE TOOL THAT THEY USE. 
          I'M SORRY, I'M GONNA PIG PIGGYBACK ON WHAT YOU SAID, JEFF. 
          UM, IT, WE, WE LOVED HAVING THE BEEF CUPS AND I KNOW WE CAN'T HAVE THAT, THESE ASSESSMENTS. 
          IF I HAVE TO HAVE ONE MORE LICENSE, I'M GONNA HAVE TO GET A DIFFERENT WALL IN MY RESTAURANT. 
          SO AS A RESTAURANT, AS A BUSINESS OWNER AND AS A RESIDENT, HOW DO WE KNOW THAT THESE FUNDS WE'RE NOT GONNA JUST BE IN THE GENERAL FUND AND THEY'LL NEVER SEE THEM? ARE THEY GONNA GO SPECIFICALLY TO, THEY WILL HAVE TO. 
          SO EITHER CALIFORNIA PROP 26, IF WE CHARGE A FEE, UM, WE HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR EVERY DOLLAR OF THAT. 
          AND THEN THOSE FEES CAN ONLY BE SPENT ON THE AREA WHERE THEY WERE COLLECTED. 
          UM, QUESTION ON THE PARKING UNTIL 2:00 AM YOU KNOW, WITH THE, THE DIFFERENT TYPE OF, 'CAUSE WE'VE EXPLORED A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT LATER. 
          BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WOULD BE ENFORCED. 
          YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS, OKAY, SO YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO PARK AFTER 2:00 AM WHO'S GOING TO BE THERE TO WRITE A TICKET? YEAH. 
          OR TO TELL YOU THAT YOU'RE, IS THAT REALLY GOING TO HAVE ANY IMPACT? UM, YEAH, I MEAN WE DO HAVE MUCH LESS, BUT WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO, UM, AFTER HOURS ENFORCEMENT AND WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR STAFFING. 
          BUT, UM, WE, WE COME OUT AT NIGHT NOW, NOT NECESSARILY FOR METERS, BUT FOR, YOU KNOW, PARKING, UH, AND PLACES THAT YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO PARKING IN RED ZONES. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          WE'VE, UH, IN THE LAST, UH, SIX WEEKS, WE'VE INTERVIEWED 60 ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO, UH, STAFF UP UNTIL, UH, MIDNIGHT, UM, EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK. 
          I, I'M SORRY, I MISSED THE FIRST PART OF WHAT YOU SAID. 
          OVER THE LAST SIX WEEKS WE'VE INTERVIEWED OVER 60 PEOPLE TO FILL THE, UH, AGENCIES FOR PARKING ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS UP UNTIL MID, UH, FOR SHIFTS THAT GO INTO MIDNIGHT. 
          FOR JUST THIS AREA OR FOR YOUR CITYWIDE? THE WHOLE CITYWIDE. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK IT'S 22 VACANCIES. 
          SO APPARENTLY THERE'S, I THINK THERE'S ABOUT 22 PARKING ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, UH, WHO DO PARKING ENFORCEMENT THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          THAT'S UHHUH IT'S MOSTLY DAYTIME AT NIGHT. 
          THERE'S ANOTHER 22 VACANCIES THAT THEY'RE FILLING RIGHT NOW. 
          I SEE. 
          OKAY. 
          GOOD. 
          GOOD TO KNOW. 
          I THINK THAT WAS, IF THERE WAS ANYTHING, AND EXPLAIN FOR ME ONE MORE TIME BECAUSE I'M DONE. 
          IF, IF WE INCREASE THE METERS TO 2:00 AM WHERE DO WE DO THAT AND HOW DO WE DO THAT? UM, WELL, COUNSEL WOULD GIVE SOME DIRECTION. 
          WE WOULD COME BACK TO THIS COMMISSION TO TALK ABOUT THE DETAILS OF THAT. 
          UM, AND THEN WE WOULD, UM, EFFECTUATE IT WITH OUR VARIOUS VENDORS AND TECHNOLOGY AND GIVE EVERYONE SOME AMOUNT OF NOTICE AND THEN IT WOULD GO INTO EFFECT. 
          SO THE BENEFIT OF THAT WOULD BE THAT WE SOLVE SOME OF THIS FINANCIAL ISSUE, RIGHT. 
          OF SECURE 
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IF WE ENHANCE THIS, THE, THE FEES, WHICH I, I THINK I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO UNDERSTAND THAT BETTER AND EXPLORE THAT AS AN OPTION TO SOLIDIFY OUR BUDGET AND IMPROVE THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE FACING HERE IN BELMONT OR ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A COMMENT ON THAT? WELL, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE RIGHT NOW. 
          CLARIFICATION PHASE. 
          SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN WE ON THE TABLE. 
          I SAID I DID WANNA ASK CLARIFICATION ON THAT. 
          'CAUSE IT SAYS CONVERTED TO CHARGE AT 2:00 AM DOES THAT MEAN THAT IT WOULD STOP AT SEVEN AND THEN COME BACK ON AT 2:00 AM OR WOULD BE CHARGED ALL THE WAY UP TILL 2:00 AM IT WOULD BE ALL THE WAY TOP. 
          GOT IT. 
          QUESTION. 
          WE HAVE, WE HAVE A SHORTAGE OF FOLKS THAT CAN DO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT, WHICH AGAIN IS THE GROUND LEVEL ISSUES THAT ATTRACT THE PEOPLE TO STAY LATER TO CREATE POTENTIAL PROB PROBLEMS OR ISSUES. 
          AND SO IF WE HAVE, WHY, I GUESS I, I WOULD QUESTION WHETHER WE HAVE STAFF TO DO THAT VERSUS STAFF TO, YOU KNOW, UH, MONITOR A PARKING METER. 
          UM, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF I, I'M JUST CLARIFYING BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IN ADDITION TO THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD DO BOTH. 
          BUT THE PROBLEM IS A LOT OF IT IS STEMMING FROM WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE STREET WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE IN VIOLATION. 
          YOU KNOW, UM, THERE ARE PARKING LOT ISSUES OF COURSE AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TASKED WITH DOING. 
          SO IT JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW ALL THAT FITS TOGETHER. 
          YEAH. 
          WITH PERSONNEL, I WOULD SAY THERE'S MANY CAUSES OF ANY SOLUTIONS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          LIKE A SINGLE, UM, EACH. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE THE CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF THAT WE HAVE, BUT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SEND THEM OUT ON, UH, NIGHTS ON OVERTIME. 
          SO THAT IS AN OPTION EVEN WITHOUT INCREASING LIKE TOTAL HEAD COUNT. 
          HOW, WHAT IS YOUR HEAD COUNT FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT? UM, IT VARIES AT ANY, UH, GIVEN TIME, BUT WE HAVE AROUND 50 PERSONNEL. 
          MOST OF THOSE FOLKS THOUGH ARE NOT DOING WHAT WE THINK OF AS CODE ENFORCEMENT. 
          THEY'RE DOING MULTIFAMILY INSPECTIONS. 
          SO EVERY RENTAL UNIT, UM, IN THE CITY IS INSPECTED FOR BASIC HABITABILITY. 
          UM, SO ABOUT HALF OF THE STAFF WORKS ON THAT AND HALF OF THE STAFF WORKS ON UM, OTHER, UM, ENFORCEMENT ISSUES. 
          SURE. 
          SO, SO IT'S MOSTLY DAYTIME, I MEAN, UNLESS  YEAH. 
          YEAH, IT'S ABSOLUTELY MOSTLY DAYTIME. 
          SO WE DO NIGHTTIME, UM, TO TARGET SORT OF SPECIFIC ISSUES. 
          UM, WE'VE BEEN OUT HERE, UM, NOT TO ADDRESS THE VENDORS IN GENERAL, BUT TO ADDRESS LIKE THERE WERE SOME VENDORS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, WHICH IS EASIER TO CONTROL. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IT'S WHEN THEY'RE ON PUBLIC PROPERTY THAT THE STATE LAW KICKS IN. 
          SO WE'VE BEEN IN FOR THAT. 
          WE HAVE GOTTEN REFERRALS FROM PD AND THEN HAVE, UM, GONE OUT. 
          I MEAN THAT WAS MANY MONTHS AGO. 
          UM, TO, TO DEAL WITH THIS SPECIFIC BUSINESS THAT WAS LIKE, IT'S GOOD THAT THEY'RE KICKING PEOPLE OUT, BUT THEY WERE LIKE KICKING PEOPLE OUT AND THEN THEY WERE CAUSING ALL KINDS OF TROUBLE JUST OUTSIDE THEIR DOORS. 
          SO, UM, WE ARE OUT BUT NOT ON A DAILY BASIS. 
          THE DAILY BASIS IS ALL DAYTIME OPERATIONS AND THE PRIVATE PROPERTY ASPECT OF ENFORCEMENT. 
          THAT IS IT. 
          WAS THERE SOME NUANCE TO THAT, THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS TO ALSO HAVE SOME KIND OF SIGNAGE OR SOMETHING THAT ALLOWS YOU TO YEAH, THEY JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT IT TAKES TO ENFORCE. 
          YEAH. 
          PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE TO BE ENROLLED IN A 7 0 2 PROGRAM AND WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DO TRESPASSING VIOLATIONS WITHOUT THEIR INDIVIDUAL PERMISSION. 
          'CAUSE THEY'VE GIVEN US A BLANKET, UM, PERMISSION TO ENFORCE TRESPASSING ON THEIR PROPERTY. 
          OKAY, EXCELLENT. 
          UM, IF THERE AREN'T ANY OTHER CLARIFICATION, ONE LAST ONE WITH REGARD TO THE PARKING LOT, UM, WOULD THERE BE CONSIDERATION FOR RESIDENTS OR LATE NIGHT STAFF? BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE HEARD THAT A LOT OF RESIDENTS, BECAUSE PARKING GETS IMPACTED DOWN HERE, THEY COME HOME LATE, THEY CAN'T PARK IN FRONT OF THEIR OWN HOUSES, THEY USE THE PARKING LOT AND YEAH. 
          SO NOW THEY'RE GETTING CHARGED JUST TO COME HOME. 
          WE DON'T HAVE THAT TODAY, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST IN THAT. 
          AND I THINK IF COUNCIL GAVE US THAT DIRECTION, WE WOULD COME UP WITH A WAY TO HAVE LIKE A, UM, RESIDENT PASS. 
          I CAN'T GUARANTEE IT'LL BE FREE, BUT MAYBE YOU PAY SOME AMOUNT PER MONTH. 
          UM, IN BEACH LOTS ELSEWHERE IN THE CITY, WE HAVE OVERNIGHT PARKING IN THE BEACH LOTS AND WE SELL THAT TO RESIDENTS. 
          SO THERE ARE OPTIONS THERE. 
          UM, I THINK WE HAVEN'T INVESTIGATED TOO MUCH BECAUSE AS A STAFF MEMBER, I FEEL LIKE IT JUST LIKE GONE IN CIRCLES FOR A WHOLE YEAR. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS JUST LIKE GET SOME MORE CONCRETE DIRECTION, UM, HERE BY THE END OF THE YEAR AND THEN WE'LL FOLLOW THROUGH ON THE DETAILS ONCE THEY CALL US IN WHAT DIRECTION THEY WANT US TO GO. 
          GOTCHA. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, I THINK WE'RE READY FOR PUBLIC 
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COMMENT. 
          CLERK, IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM TWO, PLEASE STAND. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WE DO HAVE THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE EACH. 
          WE ARE OVER THE LIMIT ON THE DENSITY OF ALCOHOL SERVING ESTABLISHMENTS IN BELMONT SHORE ON SECOND STREET. 
          AND ACCORDING TO OUR COUNCIL MEMBER, SHE WILL CONTINUE TO APPROVE NEW ALCOHOL SERVING ESTABLISHMENTS ON SECOND STREET. 
          SO WHILE WE'RE HAVING THIS EFFORT TO REDUCE THE EFFECTS OF SERVING TOO MUCH ALCOHOL, WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE NEW ALCOHOL SERVING RESTAURANTS. 
          AND IT SEEMS AS THOUGH, WELL, ONE HAND IS TRYING TO DIMINISH ANOTHER HAND IS JUST OPEN. 
          COULD THERE BE SOMETHING IN THIS PROPOSAL THAT WILL LIMIT NEW ALCOHOL SERVING RESTAURANTS WHILE WE HAVE THIS LATE NIGHT SAFETY ISSUE? IT SEEMS AS THOUGH WE'RE MISSING THIS IMPORTANT DISCONNECT RIGHT HERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          JUST ME TO GO. 
          MICHELLE, I JUST CONCERN ABOUT THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION. 
          I KNOW YOU'RE SAID YOU'RE NOT RECOMMENDING THAT, WHICH IS, UM, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BECAUSE THE ITEM'S AREN'T USUALLY EXCLUSIVE, RIGHT? SO I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE RECOMMENDING TO PUT NEW FEES ON THE DINING DISTRICT, UM, BUT I ASSUME YOU ALSO RECOMMENDING THE ALCOHOL POLICY COORDINATOR BECAUSE THAT WOULD WORK HAND TO HAND. 
          SO I WOULD LIKE SOME CLARIFICATION MAYBE ON THE DOCUMENT, UM, ABOUT WHAT ALL THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING. 
          BUT I THINK THERE'S DEFINITELY A LOT OF INEFFICIENCY WITH THIS BODY. 
          AND THIS IS THE THIRD TIME I'VE SEEN EITHER OF THIS OR ALLISON PRESENT ON THIS. 
          AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE EFFORT THAT THE STAFF WAS PUTTING IN. 
          BUT UM, IT DOES FEEL LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF INEFFICIENCIES AND ABOVE THE BUDGET. 
          SO BECAUSE Y'ALL INCREASED THE PRICES, THE TOTAL BUDGET THAT I SAW WAS 1.7 MILLION. 
          SO LIKE CHRIS SAID, OTHER AREAS KEEP ONLY 50%. 
          AND WHILE WE ALL KNOW GOMONT SURE IS SPECIAL FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE, THERE'S NO JUSTIFICATION FOR THAT. 
          SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A PROPOSAL THAT SAYS LET'S HARMONIZE BEAUMONT SHORE WITH OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE WHY ARE WE GIVING A HUNDRED PERCENT WHEN THE LAST BUDGET I SAW ALSO HAD A $500,000? YOU KNOW, UM, NO, WHAT IS THE WORD EXCESS THAT WE'RE NOT USING? RIGHT? SO THE CITY JUST DID A LOT OF CUTS AND WELLMAN SCHO IS HOARDING AT LEAST $500,000. 
          SO THAT IS UNETHICAL TO ME. 
          SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT IS AN ALTERNATIVE TO THIS BODY CONTROLLING $1.7 MILLION WHEN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS ONLY CONTROL 50% OF THEIR PARKING BUDGET. 
          AND HOW COULD WE BETTER UTILIZE THAT MONEY TO MAKE THE DECISIONS MORE ACCOUNTABLE TO THE PUBLIC? 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW THIS BIKE DOES NOT FEEL LIKE IT'S ACCOUNTABLE TO THE PUBLIC. 
          SO SOME MORE OPTIONS TO SAY, WHY ARE WE DOING THINGS DIFFERENTLY? HOW COULD THE MONEY BE BETTER PUT TO USE? AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THE, UM, SECURITY CAMERAS. 
          WELL THAT'S A DECISION THAT MIGHT BE BETTER HAD CITYWIDE, RIGHT? SO THERE'S JUST A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY THIS BODY IS SO SPECIAL AND WHY THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS SPECIAL FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'M GONNA DECLINE TO STAND, BUT OF COURSE. 
          HI, I, I'M BRIAN COCHRAN FOR RESIDENT AND COMMUNITY ADVOCATE. 
          UM, I, IT IS GREAT TO SEE NEW FACES AT THE, AT THIS COMMISSION BECAUSE WE DEFINITELY DESPERATELY NEED A NEW FACES WITH NEW IDEAS. 
          UM, BUT I WANT TO PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT, MAYBE A LITTLE  FOR THOSE WHO MAY NOT HAVE THE HISTORY THAT SOME OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS DO. 
          UH, THIS BODY AND SOME OF ITS COMMISSION STAFF ROUTINELY AND HISTORICALLY TO THE DETRIMENT OF COMMUNITY CONFLATED BUSINESS INTEREST, MEANING THE BSBA AND THIS COMMISSION WITH COMMUNITY INTEREST. 
          AND THOSE ARE NOT THE SAME. 
          YOUR ROLE AS DEFINED BY THE CHARTER AND THIS WAY THIS STRUCTURE IS BUILT IS TO ADVOCATE FOR COMMUNITY USING THE RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO YOU AND YOUR ADVISORY BODY. 
          SO JUST KNOW THAT, BUT HISTORICALLY, WE'VE ESSENTIALLY TREATED THE BARS AS THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, MEANING ONE OF THE SAME. 
          BSBA REPRESENTS THOSE LARGELY. 
          AND THAT, UH, SOMEHOW THOSE ARE THE SAME INTERESTS AS THE COMMUNITIES AS A WHOLE. 
          THAT IS NOT TRUE AND UNEQUIVOCALLY NOT TRUE. 
          WHEN I SEE THE RECOMMENDATIONS HERE, UM, WHAT I WOULD, UH, ENCOURAGE THIS BODY TO CONSIDER ROBUSTLY AND MEANINGFULLY IS THAT THE BEST RECOMMENDATION IS TO DISSOLVE THIS BODY. 
          YOU SHOULD BE RECOMMENDING THE DISSOLUTION OF THIS BODY. 
          LET IT GO 
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AWAY WITH SOME CAVEATS ABOUT HOW TO OVERSIGHT MIGHT CONTINUE AND WHAT PARTS NEED TO BE DONE. 
          BUT AS MICHELLE AND OTHERS HAVE POINTED OUT, THIS BODY DOES NOT SERVE A COMMUNITY INTEREST. 
          IT SERVES A BUSINESS INTEREST FOR THE VSBA BY EXTENSION. 
          THE BARS EXCLUSIVELY, THAT'S THE DOMINANCE OF THAT. 
          IT DOES NOT HAVE VOICES. 
          IF THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF BUSINESSES IN THE COMMUNITY AND ONLY A DOZEN OF THEM ARE BARS IN THE RESTAURANTS, THOSE ARE DOMINATING THE CONVERSATION AND HAVE HISTORICALLY DOMINATED THE CONVERSATION BY THE PLACEMENT OF COMMISSIONS AND COMMISSIONERS ON, ON THIS BODY. 
          SO YOU HAVE A POSITION NOW WHERE YOU CAN GENERALLY RECOMMEND SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE MEANINGFUL, WHICH IS THE DISSOLUTION OF THIS BODY GOING FORWARD. 
          AND TO TAKE THOSE REVENUES, AS MICHELLE NOTED, HOW MUCH MONEY IS BEING SPENT ON EFFORTS THAT MEAN NOTHING TO COMMUNITY, BUT PROTECT INTEREST. 
          WE WILL GET TO THE CSI AND THE SURVEILLANCE CAMERA CONTRACTS AT A CERTAIN POINT, BUT THOSE ARE A PART AND PARCEL OF THAT. 
          THIS BODY NEEDS TO RECOGNIZE THAT ITS OWN SELF-INTEREST AS INDIVIDUAL OWNERS AND PARTICIPANTS. 
          AND THAT AS ON BEHALF OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND ESPECIALLY ON BEHALF OF THE, OUR COMMUNITY, THE ALCOHOL SERVICE COMMUNITY ARE NOT ONE THE SAY. 
          SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO TAKE THOSE FIRST STEPS. 
          I ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS ABOUT LONGSTANDING THIS AND HAVE DEEP PERSPECTIVES ON THAT AND START LOOKING AT THOSE STEPS. 
          'CAUSE THAT IS A ROBUST AND MEANINGFUL SUGGESTION AND RECOMMENDATION THAT THE, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPERS PUT FORWARD. 
          SO THINK ABOUT THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT CONCLUDES ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER'S DISCUSSION. 
          I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS, BUT I'LL LET YOU ALL VOTE FIRST IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION. 
          ANYTHING. 
          THANKS. 
          I'D LIKE TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS BASED ON WHAT WE'VE HEARD AND WHAT WAS SHARED WITH US. 
          UM, I, I WANT TO REALLY EMPHASIZE, AND I THINK IT CAME UP IN THE PUBLIC COMMENTS AS WELL AS IN WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO HELP EDUCATE ABOUT WHAT WE DO. 
          AND I THINK THERE HAVE BEEN SOME MISPERCEPTIONS ABOUT WHAT THE ROLE OF THE PARKING COMMISSION IS AND WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO. 
          AND THE PARKING COMMISSION EXISTS TO HELP REALLY ENHANCE SECOND STREET, WHICH, YOU KNOW, MEANS BEAUTIFICATION INFRASTRUCTURE AND SAFETY OF PUBLIC ASSETS. 
          IT WOULD BE NICE IF IT WAS MORE THAN THAT, BUT THAT'S WHAT THE CHARTER IS. 
          AND THOSE ARE STILL THREE HUGE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO ACCOMPLISH. 
          AND WHILE THE BANK ACCOUNT LOOKS LIKE IT'S, YOU KNOW, ROBUST, I MEAN, WE DO HAVE A BOND THAT WE HAVE TO PAY ON. 
          WE DO HAVE QUITE A FEW EXPENSES. 
          AND THE ONLY REASON THAT THOSE FEES WERE INCREASED WERE TO HELP, AGAIN, IMPROVE THE, THE BELMONT SHORE AREA, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALL, AS A RESIDENT AND MANY OF US ON THIS BODY, EVEN IF WE'RE BUSINESS OWNERS OR ALSO RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, AND IF WE'RE NOT, WE COME TO SECOND STREET A WHOLE LOT. 
          UM, WE CARE ABOUT THIS STREET. 
          WE, WE'VE INVESTED, YOU KNOW, OUR OUR BUSINESS OR OUR LIVES OR OUR HOMES OR WHAT, WE ALL HAVE A STAKE IN IT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT AND WE CARE. 
          THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. 
          WE DO THIS WITHOUT BEING PAID. 
          AND, AND WE DO IT WILLINGLY BECAUSE WE CARE ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY AND, YOU KNOW, UH, WE ARE DOING OUR BEST. 
          AND THIS IS QUITE A FEW NEW FOLKS HERE THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE JUMPING RIGHT IN AND ROLLING UP THEIR SLEEVES TO TRY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS THAT WE KNOW EXIST. 
          BUT WE'VE ALSO SET OURSELVES UP FOR SUCCESS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE FIGHTS TO DO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY WANT TO DO, WHERE YOU'LL START SEEING MORE ENHANCEMENTS AS WE MOVE DOWN THE ROAD. 
          WE ALSO WANT TO BE AS ACTIVE AS POSSIBLE, AS PUSHING THROUGH THE CHANGES THAT WE WANT TO MAKE, WHICH ARE, YOU KNOW, COULD BE WITH LIGHTING, BEAUTIFICATION, THE CENTER MEDIANS, AND ESPECIALLY CLEANLINESS. 
          AND I JUST DON'T WANT US TO HAVE, UH, THE IMPRESSION THAT IF WE TURN THOSE DOLLARS OVER TO THE CITY, THAT THOSE SAME DOLLARS ARE GOING TO COME BACK. 
          I'M FAIRLY CERTAIN, I I THAT THEY WON'T BECAUSE THEY WILL GET MIXED INTO THE GENERAL FUNDS AND THEY WILL BE DIVIDED BY NINE. 
          AND WHILE THAT SOUNDS GOOD, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT IS THAT PERHAPS IS THE FACT THAT ON THE WEEKENDS AND WEEKNIGHTS ALL OF THE TIME, YOU KNOW, WE ARE A DESIRABLE PLACE TO COME. 
          PEOPLE LOVE COMING TO SECOND STREET THAT ARE RESIDENTS FIRST AND FOREMOST, AND NOT JUST FROM BELMONT SHORE OR THE SURROUNDING AREA, BUT PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER LONG BEACH. 
          AND IF WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO KEEP THE STREETS CLEAN AND TO BEAUTIFY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA SEE A DENIGRATION OF THIS JEWEL OF A STREET. 
          WE'RE A STREET, WE'RE NOT DOWNTOWN. 
          WE'RE NOT A WHOLE BIG AREA. 
          WE'RE A REALLY, YOU KNOW, WONDERFUL AREA THAT PEOPLE HAVE FOND MEMORIES IF THEY USED TO LIVE HERE AND THEY COME BACK, OR PEOPLE THAT MOVE HERE BECAUSE THEY LOVE IT. 
          AND WE WANNA KEEP IT THAT, THAT WAY. 
          WE WANT TO PRESERVE IT AND MAKE IT BETTER. 
          AND THE ONLY WAY TO PRESERVE IT UNFORTUNATELY, IS COSTS HAVE GONE UP. 
          AND SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT NUMBERS 
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LIKE 1.7 OR WE HAVE A SURPLUS, I MEAN, WE GOT SURPRISED WHEN, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CLEANING WENT UP THREE TIMES AND THAT WAS MARKET BREAK. 
          IT'S NOT THAT SOMEONE'S OVERCHARGING OR ANYTHING. 
          CONSERVATION CORPS COULDN'T DO IT ANYMORE. 
          SO WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THOSE KINDS OF THINGS THAT EVERYTHING'S GONE UP. 
          WE ARE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALWAYS SPENDING MORE MONEY ON EVERYTHING AT HOME OR IN OUR PERSONAL LIVES AS WELL. 
          AND THAT'S GOES FOR THIS TOO. 
          SO WE HAVE TO PROTECT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, WHICH IS MAKE IT BETTER. 
          AND IF WE, IF THESE DOLLARS WILL NOT COME BACK TO US, AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALMOST LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO LIMIT OURSELVES AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE A WORSE PRODUCT. 
          WE WILL DEFINITELY HAVE A WORSE PRODUCT. 
          UM, BECAUSE THERE WON'T BE, YOU KNOW, A A A COLLECTED, UM, POLICY BODY. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE THAT FOUR LEGGED STOOL, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE'VE GOT, WE DO HAVE BSBA, WHICH IS VERY ACTIVE. 
          WE HAVE THE PARKING COMMISSION, WE HAVE FRIENDS AT BELMONT SHORE, WE HAVE THE, THE RESIDENTS ASSOCIATION THAT DOES THEIR, THEIR JOB. 
          AND EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT ROLE AND ARE DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS. 
          AND THOSE VOICES ARE REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE VOICES FROM EACH OF THOSE GROUPS. 
          NOT CONSOLIDATING THOSE GROUPS, BUT HAVING EACH GROUP, GROUP WITH ITS, ITS, UH, VOICE THAT CAN THEN MOVE FORWARD THE ADVOCACY AND THE POLICIES THAT WE WANT. 
          IF WE TAKE AWAY THIS ADVISORY POLICY, THERE WILL BE NO CONDUIT TO GET TO THE PLACE, TO, TO GET ON THE RECORD, TO GET TO THE COUNCIL, TO BE ABLE TO, TO ADVOCATE FOR THIS BELMONT SHORE AREA. 
          AND WE'RE NOT ONLY ADVOCATING FOR BUSINESS, WE'RE, WE'RE ADVOCATING FOR, UH, A STREET. 
          YOU KNOW, AN AREA THAT HAS, YOU KNOW, SO MUCH OF WHAT WE ALL LIVE HERE FOR, YOU KNOW, AND YES, IT IS COMMERCIAL PRIMARILY, OF COURSE, BUT WE LIVE NEAR IT BECAUSE WE LOVE THE ACCESS. 
          WE LOVE BEING HERE. 
          AND WE WILL, WE WILL LOVE IT LESS IF THE STREETS ARE DIRTIER. 
          NOT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE GREAT SUPPORT, BUT BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO COST MORE AND WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THE FUNDS TO DO IT. 
          AND THERE'S GONNA BE NO ONE TO COMPLAIN TO YOU. 
          I MEAN, AT LEAST IF WE HAVE THIS BODY, YOUR VOICE IS HEARD, PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S WORKING AND WHAT'S NOT WORKING WHEN THERE'S NOT A SINGLE POINT. 
          'CAUSE THAT'S OUR JOB. 
          AND THIS IS A PLACE THAT YOU CAN COME, YOU'LL BE IN VARIOUS SPREAD OUT COMMUNITY GROUPS, BUT YOU WON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE CONDUIT THAT YOU WOULD LIKE OR PERHAPS THE, THE ADVOCACY TO THE PEOPLE THAT YOU REALLY NEED TO REACH TO BE ABLE TO GET CHANGE TO HAPPEN. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN ALWAYS DO BETTER, BUT NOT BEING HERE ISN'T BETTER. 
          AND, AND I THINK WE, WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT THAT. 
          AND NOW, YOU KNOW, WITH THINGS THAT HAVE CHANGED SINCE THE SEVENTIES WHEN THIS CAME BODY CAME TO BE, UM, A LOT'S CHANGED. 
          I MEAN, WE DO HAVE MORE PEOPLE IN THE SHORE. 
          IT IS MORE CROWDED. 
          UH, WE HAVE LESS POLICE. 
          THAT'S NOT SOMETHING A PARKING COMMISSION HAS ANY CONTROL OVER. 
          AND SOCIAL MEDIA HAS CHANGED HOW WE INTERACT, WHO VISITS, WHAT HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, IN, IN NIGHT LAG. 
          ALL THOSE THINGS HAVE CHANGED. 
          SO THAT IS, UH, THAT'S A CHALLENGE FOR US, BUT WE CAN ONLY SOLVE THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE CHARGED WITH SOLVING. 
          AND THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE COME UP SURROUNDING WHAT, UM, WHAT, UH, CHRIS TALKED ABOUT. 
          YOU KNOW, THESE THINGS ARE DEEP, BUT WE'RE TALKING STATE LEVEL. 
          WE'RE TALKING CODE ENFORCEMENT. 
          WE'RE TALKING A, B, C, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE STREET BETTER CLEANER, HAVE PARKING LOTS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, OUR ASSETS ARE PROTECTED AND SAFE. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE A BETTER COMMUNITY RIGHT HERE ON SECOND STREET AND IN BELMONT SHORE. 
          AND WITH THE OLYMPICS COMING. 
          AND AS THIS, AS WE GET DISCOVERED, SECOND STREET'S ALREADY BEEN DISCOVERED FROM OUR BIG, YOU KNOW, UH, PARADES AND ALL THE GREAT THINGS WE'VE DONE IN CAL STATE LONG BEACH. 
          BUT ONCE THE OLYMPICS COME, WE'RE THE WORLD'S GOING TO DISCOVER US, AND PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE COMING HERE MORE. 
          AND SO ARE WE GONNA HAVE LESS CLEANING, LESS BEAUTIFICATION, YOU KNOW, MORE PEOPLE, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA SEE THE STREETS ARE DIRTY AND WE'RE GONNA GO TO THE CITY. 
          WE NEED MORE MONEY. 
          THEY'RE SAYING WE DON'T HAVE MORE MONEY. 
          AND THE MONEY'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, UH, DISSIPATED, YOU KNOW, ACROSS ALL OF THE CITY. 
          BUT WE'RE THE ONES THAT GET THE CROWDS. 
          WE'RE THE ONES THAT GET PEOPLE COMING HERE TO OUR BEACHES BECAUSE IT'S FREE. 
          THEY COME DOWN HERE THEN TO ENJOY SECOND STREET. 
          SO I THINK WE DON'T WANT TO TOO QUICKLY GET RID OF, UH, SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY IS AN ADVOCATE FOR ALL OF US. 
          AND, UH, WE NEED THE FUNDING NECESSARY TO SERVE ALL OF, ALL OF US, YOU KNOW, THE RESIDENTS OF LONG BEACH, THE REGION, AND THE WORLD. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S HOW I'LL SEE IT. 
          I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME ON THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I, 
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I CONCUR. 
          I THINK THAT, UM, IF WE GO TO, TO GETTING RID OF THIS BODY, UM, IT'S GONNA GO TO A GENERAL FUND. 
          WE'RE NOT GONNA, OUR QUALITY OF, OF LIFE IN THE SHORE, OUR QUALITY OF WHAT WE ARE, WE LOOK LIKE IS GONNA CHANGE COMPLETELY. 
          BECAUSE AS WE KNOW, WHEN THINGS GO TO THE GENERAL FUND, IT DOESN'T GO TO WHERE WE NECESSARILY THINK IT NEEDS TO GO. 
          THE CLEAN TEAM, THE, UM, POWER WASHING ON THE STREETS, UH, THINGS WILL CHANGE AND NOT FOR THE BETTER. 
          UM, AND IF THERE'S A SURPLUS, I, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD A SURPLUS SO THAT WE CAN DO OTHER THINGS THAT BEAUTIFY THIS PART OF TOWN. 
          SO I, I THINK IT WOULD BE A DETRIMENT TO NOT HAVE THIS BODY. 
          AND WE ARE A RECOMMENDING BODY. 
          WE ARE NOT, UH, WE DON'T MAKE, UM, WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          WE DON'T APPROVE THINGS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          NO, WE DON'T. 
          YEAH. 
          ANY, ANYONE ELSE? NO, THANK YOU. 
          AND I, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL OF US, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, US AND, AND THE PUBLIC TO MAKE THE COMMENTS, AS YOU KNOW, ON THIS QR CODE BY THE ONE OF THE MONTH, SO THAT ALL OF THESE THOUGHTS ARE INCLUDED IN THIS, UH, IN THIS PLAN THAT'S GOING TO THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          SO WITH THAT, UM, CLERK, PLEASE CALL FOR THE VOTE. 
          COMMISSIONER CLAIRE? YES. 
          AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER ZA AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER DUNCAN. 
          AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER JENSEN? AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER MILLER. 
          AYE. 
          CHAIR CASTRO. 
          AYE. 
          MOTION CARRIED. 
          NEXT, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE PRESENTATION REGARDING ELECTRONIC CAMERA TRAILERS IN BELMONT SHORT AREA. 
          MAY I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THIS ITEM? MOTION SECOND. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          MAY WE HAVE THE REPORT PLEASE? UM, I'D LIKE TO CALL HENRY FLORES AND E CAM TEAM TO DISCUSS THE E CAM PRESENTATION. 
          MORNING EVERYBODY. 
          MORNING, HENRY FLORES. 
          I'M REPORT. 
          THIS IS HARRISON, UH, REGIONAL SALES DIRECTOR COMING WEST COAST FOR E. 
          SO ECA, WE'RE A REMOTE VIDEO MONITORING SURVEILLANCE COMPANY THAT'S LOCAL HERE IN LONG BEACH. 
          WE'RE RIGHT NEXT TO THE LONG BEACH AIRPORT. 
          AND SO WE WERE, UM, RECENTLY CALLED BY BRIAN, UH, TO HELP SOLVE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU GUYS JUST MENTIONED RIGHT NOW. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, AND WE'RE GONNA DEPLOY IN ONE OF OUR SURVEILLANCE TOWER AT, UM, DOGS AND  START OFF. 
          SO HELP, HELP HOPEFULLY SOLVE SOME OF THE ISSUE THAT WE, THAT YOU GUYS, WE SCARED THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          JUST QUICK BACKGROUND ON E CAM. 
          WE SIMPLY TOOK WATCH CAMERAS, UH, GENERALLY AFTER HOURS, UH, BY USE OF THE MOBILE TOWERS. 
          SO YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN THEM IN THE SHOPPING CENTER IN PARKING LOTS, UH, ACROSS, YOU KNOW, ALL RETAIL. 
          UH, SO THAT'S WHAT WE DO. 
          UH, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF SUCCESS OVER THE LAST 15, 20 YEARS. 
          UM, SOME STATS THAT I THINK ARE ON SOME OF THE SLIDES, 140,000 CAMERAS ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND CANADA, UH, THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY MONITORING EVERY DAY, UH, BY WATCHING PROACTIVELY. 
          WE'VE HELPED, UH, LEAD TO ABOUT 1400 ARRESTS EVERY YEAR BY GETTING AUTHORITIES ON SITE WHILE SOMEONE'S COMMITTING A CRIME. 
          WE'LL, DISPATCH POLICE ON AVERAGE ABOUT 30,000, UH, TIMES ANNUALLY. 
          UH, AND THEN SOME OTHER SERVICES THAT COME WITH THAT. 
          BUT, UH, MAINTAINING THE CAMERAS, KEEPING THEM ALWAYS ONLINE. 
          WE HAVE A BUILT IN HELP CHECK. 
          UH, WE'LL HAVE, WE'LL DO PROACTIVE VIDEO INVESTIGATIONS ON BEHALF OF OUR CLIENTS. 
          SO, UH, JUST MANAGING THE CAMERAS ITSELF. 
          UH, AND THEN THAT OBVIOUSLY USING TECHNOLOGY COMES AT QUITE A BIT OF COST SAVINGS COMPARED TO PRIVATE SECURITY, LIKE PHYSICAL GUARDS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THE KEY BENEFITS COME IN. 
          UH, VARIOUS MODELS THAT WE'LL SEE IN THE SLIDE TO JUST TO AFFECT DIFFERENT PURPOSES, DIFFERENT AMOUNT OF CAMERAS, DIFFERENT KINDS OF CAMERAS. 
          UH, BUT GENERALLY OUR PURPOSE IS REALLY JUST TO HAVE EXTRA EYES IN DIFFERENT AREAS, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE RESOURCES ARE LIMITED AND TO WATCH THOSE CAMERAS DURING DESIGNATED HOURS AND DO WHAT OUR CLIENTS WANT US TO DO. 
          SO WE ACT AS BASICALLY AN EXTRA SET OF EYES, UM, FOR THESE CAMERAS AND, AND NOTHING MORE. 
          SO, UH, CLIENTS, YOU KNOW, FOR, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER IT IS WILL TELL US, HERE'S THE PROTOCOLS, HERE'S WHAT WE WANT YOU TO DO DURING THOSE HOURS. 
          WE WANT YOU TO SOUND A SPEAKER AND JUST WARN SOMEONE TO LEAVE. 
          WE WANT YOU TO CALL POLICE, WE WANT YOU TO DO BOTH. 
          UH, WE CAN DO A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS. 
          UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S GENERALLY WHERE WE FIT IN 
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AND CAN HELP A LOT OF, UH, BUSINESSES AND, UM, GOVERNMENT AND WHATNOT. 
          AND SO, YEAH, AND, AND, AND GOING OFF OF THE MONITORING OF THE TASK AND WHAT WE WERE ASKED TO DO WAS TO MAKE DEPLOYED SURVEILLANCE UNITS IN THE PARKING LOTS OF DOGS AND PANAMA GIRLS AND JUST TO WATCH THE NIGHT LIGHTS, WATCH THE ACTIVITY THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT THERE. 
          WE'RE NOT REALLY, WE'RE NOT RECORDING ANY TYPE OF, WE'RE NOT DOCUMENTING ANY TYPE OF LICENSE PLATE, WE'RE JUST ACTING AS THE EXTRA EYES THERE. 
          SO IF WE DO SEE ANYONE HANGING OUT IN THE PARKING LOTS FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, WHICH I, YOU KNOW, ME BEING A RESIDENT HERE IN LONG BEACH, ME FROM COLLEGE YEARS UP UNTIL NOW, YOU KNOW, HANGING OUT HERE IN , WHICH I LOVE HERE OFTEN, , YOU KNOW, IT LATER IT GETS IT, IT CAN GET POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE WE COME IN. 
          I CARE ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY. 
          SO I REALLY WAS INTERESTED IN ACTUALLY HELPING OUT THE CITY OF LONG BEACH WITH THIS AND HOPEFULLY SAW SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE, THAT YOU GUYS EXPERIENCED IN THOSE RESTAURANT PARKING LOTS. 
          AND SO ONCE WE SEE ACTIVITY GOING ON, OUR MONITORING CENTER IS GONNA SEE THAT, REPORT IT OBVIOUSLY TO THE LOCAL PD THAT'S HERE ON PATROL AND WATCHING EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON DURING THE NIGHTLIFE AND HOPEFULLY, UM, HELP GET A FASTER RESPONSE AND TO GET RID OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE ON, UH, IN THE PARKING LOTS FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO DO. 
          WE ARE STARTING OFF SOMEWHAT AS, AS AN PILOT PROGRAM FOR THOSE TWO PARKING LOTS. 
          AND IF IT HELPS, THEN I WOULD HOPE AND EXPECT TO HAVE SOME, SOME MORE SURVEILLANCE UNITS AND SOME OF THE OTHER, UM, AREAS LIKE YOU MENTIONED, I THINK YOU MENTIONED THE CHASE PARKING, WHICH I'M, I'M AWARE OF WHEN YOU WALK BY, THERE'S ALWAYS ACTIVITY GOING ON THERE. 
          YOU SEE HOMELESS THERE, YOU SEE A MIXTURE OF THE HOMELESS, YOU SEE A MIXTURE OF, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE JUST WALKING BY AND IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST POTENTIAL FOR, FOR THE UNWANTED ACTIVITY RIGHT. 
          THAT YOU, THAT WE WANT TO, AGAIN, HELP GET RID OF. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. 
          ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YES. 
          WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE ? YEAH. 
          SO SOME OF THE SERVICES, WHICH ONE ARE WE GETTING? ? DO ANY LIKE ELECTRIC SHOCK? YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SO THE ONE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS GONNA BE THE INDUSTRY PRO SOLAR. 
          UM, AND SO THIS PRO SOLAR COMPARED TO, LET'S JUST SAY THE STANDARD SOLAR, THE SATURN IS MORE OF A SMALLER UNIT. 
          YOU GET, YOU CAN EITHER GET A 180 VIEW, UH, LET'S SAY WE HAVE A, A CONSTRUCTION SITE OR A PARKING LOT THAT'S JUST HAVING A SMALLER FOOTPRINT. 
          YOU'LL WANT TO PUT THOSE CAMERAS THERE AND JUST KIND OF CONFIGURE THEM AND AIM THEM IN AREAS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE, WHERE THERE'S JUST NOT MUCH OF A FOOTPRINT. 
          WHEREAS IF YOU HAVE THE PRO SOLAR, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE, UM, AGREED TO, IT GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A 360 VIEW. 
          BUT AGAIN, YOU CAN CONFIGURE THE CAMERAS AND POINT THEM IN WHICHEVER DIRECTION YOU WANT. 
          SO JUST BIGGER, BIGGER COVERAGE AREAS WILL REQUIRE A BIGGER SURVEILLANCE UNIT WITH MORE CAMERAS. 
          UM, AND THEN THE MSU PRO PLUS THAT ONE COMES WITH A SOLAR, UH, I'M SORRY, NOT SOLAR. 
          WELL, IT COMES WITH SOLAR, BUT IT ALSO COMES WITH, UM, A GENERATOR. 
          SO OFTENTIMES FOR THOSE BAD BOYS, I LIKE TO RECOMMEND THOSE TO SOME OF THE OTHER, UM, STATES, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY HAVE HARDER HARSHER CLIMATES, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE GETTING CLOSER TOWARDS THE WINTER FALLS. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE THEY, THEN YOU HAVE THE MG MINI. 
          UM, THAT ONE IS MORE OF LIKE A PLUGIN TYPE UNIT WHERE YOU WOULD PUT IN, IN, IN SMALL AREAS. 
          LET'S SAY YOU HAVE AN ALLEYWAY, THERE'S UNWANTED ACTIVITY THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT THERE, AND YOU NEED TO GET SOME ICE RIGHT THERE. 
          THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO JUST MOUNT THAT ON THE EDGE OF THE ROOF. 
          THEY STILL SEE THE DETERRENT AND UH, HOPEFULLY IT'S OFF THAT PHONE. 
          AND WE COULD ALSO REPORT TO LOCAL PD OR TO THE OWNER, WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE OF MAINTAINING THAT AREA TO RESPOND TO, UM, TO THAT ACTIVITY. 
          AND THESE, THESE UNITS HAVE A AUDIO AND LIGHTING YES. 
          YES. 
          COMPONENT. 
          YES. 
          HOW DOES THAT INTERACT WITH LIKE A RESIDENT THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO MEAN, OR HOW DO YOU MINIMIZE THAT? I MEAN, SO YOU, SO THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS TO, UM, TO CONFIGURE THE VOICE DOWNS. 
          UM, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THE PARKING LOT SITUATION, RIGHT, WHERE IF, IF THERE IS AN EXTENDED AMOUNT OF, IF THERE'S SOMEONE THAT'S HANGING THERE FOR AN EXTENDED AMOUNT OF TIME, IT IS GOING TO THE, OUR, WHAT, WHAT OUR CAMERAS DO IS GONNA SEND AN ALERT TO OUR, OUR CENTRAL STATION. 
          AND THEN OUR CENTRAL STATION WILL, OUR AGENT WILL GO AHEAD AND TAKE A LOOK, SEE WHAT'S GOING ON, AND THEN THEY COULD EITHER PING, UH, AN AUTOMATED VOICE DOWN, LETTING 'EM KNOW, HEY, YOU KNOW, PLEASE EXIT THE, YOU KNOW, PLEASE LEAVE THE PROPERTY. 
          THIS IS BEING MONITORED. 
          UM, AND THEN IF THEY'RE STILL HANGING OUT, THEY COULD ACTUALLY CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THERE, UM, THERE'S ALSO AN OPTION WHERE THEY CAN VISIT, THEY COULD ACTUALLY TALK DOWN THE, THE AGENT COULD TALK DOWN TO THAT PERSON, SAY, HEY, YOU WITH A BLACK SHIRT, YOU NEED TO LEAVE THE PROPERTY BEFORE KNOW PD HAS BEEN CONTACTED. 
          THEY'RE ON THEIR WAY. 
          SO, UM, THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS TO GO ABOUT THAT PART. 
          UM, YOU CAN'T PLAY AROUND WITH THE LEVEL I KNOW. 
          I MEAN, BEING FAMILIAR WITH, WITH THIS AREA, YOU HAVE THE RESTAURANT, BUT THEN YOU ALSO HAVE, WE ALSO HAVE BE CAUTIOUS OF THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE, ARE NEARBY. 
          SO WE CAN PLAY AROUND WITH THE VOICE DOWNS. 
          UM, YOU CAN, YEAH. 
          YEAH, YOU CAN. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO WE CAN, WE, WE CAN CONTROL THE VOLUME 
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NUMBER ONE. 
          NUMBER TWO, WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO SOUND THAT OUT. 
          WE CAN JUST CONTACT PD RIGHT AWAY, LET THEM KNOW, HEY, THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          YOU KNOW, GO CHECK. 
          RIGHT? GO CHECK THE PARKING LOT AND THEN PANAMA, THERE'S A POTENTIAL CONFRONTATION GOING ON, AND THEN THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND RESPOND TO THAT TOO. 
          SO THERE'S WAYS TO PLAY AROUND, PLAY AROUND WITH THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          THEY ALSO, BLUE STROKE THAT YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN, YOU KNOW, ON THE TOP OF 'EM. 
          BUT YEAH, WE FOUND THAT WITHOUT EVEN HAVING THE CAMERAS ON, JUST PUTTING THAT THERE WITH THE BRUISE, STROKE PRESENCE, UH, REDUCES UNWANTED ACTIVITY BY PROBABLY 40%. 
          SO, UH, JUST THE PRESENCE ALONE. 
          GIVE SOMEONE, YOU KNOW, CAUSE OR, OR HESITATION TO DO YOU KNOW, ANY, ANYTHING YOU DON'T WANT. 
          THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS THE BLUE STROKE. 
          YEAH. 
          BECAUSE THAT ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, I THINK IF THERE'S PEOPLE IN THE PARKING LOT, THERE COULD BE SOMEONE WHO'S VERY QUIET AND POTENTIALLY COMMITTING, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO ROB A CAR. 
          BUT A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS I LIVE IN PARKING LOTS ARE PEOPLE BEING LOUD. 
          RIGHT? I IMAGINE THIS MACHINE IS LESS LOUD THAN THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE PARKING LOT, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          BUT THE BLUE STROBE LIGHT, UM, COULD BE ALMOST MORE DISRUPTIVE IF IT'S VERY BRIGHT AND HIGH AND HITTING INTO BEDROOM WINDOWS. 
          THE PROTOCOLS ARE ALL CUSTOMIZABLE, SO YOU CAN TELL US WHAT YOU WANT. 
          UM, BUT AS FAR AS THE SPEAKER GOES, USUALLY WE RECOMMEND LET'S TRY IT FIRST AND THEN GET THE FEEDBACK AND THEN WE'LL EITHER ADJUST VOLUME OR TURN IT OFF. 
          UM, BUT IT IS EFFECTIVE AND IT'S KIND OF A GIVE AND TAKE. 
          DO YOU, DO YOU WANT PROMISE TO OCCUR OR, YOU KNOW, AND HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF LIKE, AND HEAR IT? OR DO YOU NOT WANT IT TO, YOU KNOW, STOP THE PROBLEMS THAT YOU HAD AND NOT HEAR AT ALL THAT? I DON'T THINK THE NOISE IS REALLY GONNA BE THE PROBLEM. 
          I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA BE THAT LOUD. 
          WE'RE A LOUD AREA. 
          IF YOU LIVE NEAR A PARKING LOT, IT'S LOUD. 
          THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE. 
          DOWN SECOND STREET, THE VOLUME IS NOT GONNA BE A PROBLEM. 
          MOTOR MOTORCYCLES AND, AND LARGE. 
          AND WE COULD ANGLE IT. 
          IF IT IS BACKED UP AGAINST THE RESIDENCE, WE COULD FACE IT. 
          HOW ARE YOU DETERMINING WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO PLACE IT IN THE PARKING LOT? HENRY'S YEAH. 
          AND THEY ARE MOBILE, SO IF WE DO NEED TO TIP IT OR ADJUST THAT, THAT THE BEAUTY OF THEM FOR ANY LOCATION. 
          YEAH. 
          THEN MAP TO SHOW YOU A GENERAL IDEA OF LIKE, WHAT I WAS THINKING. 
          I MEAN, THOSE, THOSE WERE MY PERSONAL RECOMMENDATIONS MM-HMM. 
          UM, TO GET YOU TRY TO MAXIMIZE AS MUCH COVERAGE AS WE COULD. 
          UH, BUT AGAIN, I MEAN, YOU, LET'S SAY WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AND WE GET BOTH DEPLOYED RIGHT THERE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THE TECH, WHOEVER'S THERE, THEY CAN FINALIZE THAT AND PLACE IT WHEREVER IT NEEDS TO BE. 
          AND IF WE HAVE TO MOVE 'EM AROUND, THEN THAT'S, THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. 
          UH, ARE SO LIKE WHETHER YOU'RE AT DOGS OR PANAMA, JOE'S, RIGHT NEXT TO IT ARE PRIVATE LOTS THAT ARE NOT COVERED, ARE PEOPLE SMART ENOUGH TO CARRY THEIR MISCHIEF OUTSIDE OF THE CAMERA LINES? OR ARE THEY NOT THAT AWARE? I MEAN, I MEAN, THEY CAN, RIGHT? I MEAN, WHETHER IT'S, OH, IT'S GONNA BE UP TO THE CITY ON HOW THEY WOULD LIKE FOR US TO, YOU KNOW, OR REARRANGE THOSE CAMERAS AND, AND CONFIGURE, UM, WHAT WE DO IS WE CONFIGURE ZONES WITHIN THE CAMERA. 
          AND SO THE MONITORING IS GONNA RESPOND TO WHATEVER'S HAPPENING WITHIN THOSE ZONES. 
          SO IF IT'S, IF IT'S OUTSIDE OF THAT, UNFORTUNATELY WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO IT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT RECEIVING ANY TYPE OF, UH, NOTIFICATION. 
          BUT, UH, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF AT LEAST IT'S THERE FOR THE DOCUMENTATION PURPOSES. 
          SO IF THERE WAS, WAS AN INCIDENT THAT OCCURRED, THE CITY CAN REACH OUT TO US AND WE CAN PULL THAT VIDEO. 
          BUT THEN WE ALSO GIVE THE CITY ACCESS TO, TO REVIEW THE VIDEOS IF THEY, IF NEED BE. 
          AND, AND THESE LOCATIONS CAME FROM A PD RECOMMENDATION, SO THE PD, PUBLIC WORKS AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, UM, HAVE ALL BEEN WORKING AS WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT ON THE PREVIOUS ITEM, ON LIKE WHAT CAN WE DO NOW FOR, UM, EXISTING RESOURCES. 
          SO SURE, THERE'S, I MEAN, THERE'S ALWAYS A RISK THAT YOU MAKE THE CRIMINAL SMARTER, RIGHT? AND THEY GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          BUT MOST CRIMINALS ARE NOT VERY SMART. 
          SO, UH, WE DO THINK THAT IT WILL BE BUILT A DETERRENT AND IT WILL PROVIDE, UM, THAT VIDEO WHEN IT'S NOT A DETERRENT. 
          SO THERE HAVE BEEN SPECIFIC ISSUES WHERE A BUSINESS OWNER DOES WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO, THEY KICK SOMEONE OUT OF AN ESTABLISHMENT, BUT THAT PERSON NOT GO HOME AND THEY LIKE GO TO THEIR CAR AND MAY RETRIEVE A WEAPON OR MAY CONTINUE THE ARGUMENT IN THE PARKING LOT. 
          AND WE CAN'T BE EVERYWHERE ALL AT ONCE. 
          THIS REALLY PROVIDE US OPTIONS. 
          YEAH. 
          IS YOU GUYS WILL GIVE US SOME SORT OF DATA REPORTING BACK, RIGHT? MAYBE MONTHLY ON YEAH, THERE'S AN ACCOUNT MANAGER, UH, THAT OVERSEES EACH LOCATION AND EACH ACCOUNT AND, UM, ACTUALLY IN OUR CENTRAL, IN OUR, UH, WHOEVER HAS ACCESS TO THAT, UH, VIEWING MM-HMM . 
          AS A REPORTER, YOU CAN GO IN AND SEE ALL YOUR ANALYTICS, YOU REPORT HOW MANY TIMES YOU'VE FOUND THE SPEAKER, HOW MANY TIMES YOU'VE DISPATCHED. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, HOW MANY TIMES THINGS HAVE HAPPENED MM-HMM . 
          UH, AND THEN WE WILL, UH, DO MONTHLY OR QUARTERLY CHECK-INS OR WE NEED, UM, JUST TO GO OVER AND SEE WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. 
          AND, AND THEN YOU'RE IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE PD TO SAY, YEAH, WE'VE SEEN A DECLINE IN 
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INCIDENCES NOT SO THAT'S NOT THE VENDOR. 
          SO, UM, WE PUBLIC WORKS AND CD WE HAVE REGULAR, UM, MEETINGS, UH, WITH PD AND WE LOOK AT BOTH, UM, CALLS FOR SERVICE AND ACTUAL INCIDENTS AND WHETHER THAT'S PART ONE OR PART TWO INCIDENTS, WHICH IS SORT OF BY OR NOT. 
          SO WE TRACK ALL OF THAT, UM, INFORMATION IS THROUGH THE CHIEF'S OFFICE SO THAT THAT WORK DOES HAPPEN, BUT THAT HAPPENS WITH SORT OF STATE PERSONNEL RATHER THAN . 
          OKAY. 
          AND THE DECISION WAS BASED ON THAT. 
          WE HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH EAM ALREADY. 
          SO WHAT KIND OF RESULTS HAVE WE GOTTEN WITH OTHER E CAM INSTALLATIONS? YEAH, I THINK THE MOST SUCCESSFUL PLACE WE HAD, UH, E CAM INSTALLED IS THE CITY PLACE. 
          A GARAGE NEXT TO THE OLD WALMART DOWNTOWN. 
          SAY THAT AGAIN. 
          THE CITY PLACE A GARAGE. 
          OKAY. 
          DOWNTOWN NEXT TO THE OLD WALMART THAT'S BEEN VACANT FOR YEARS. 
          UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE GOING ON TOP OF THE GARAGE JUMPING OVER LIKE THREE FENCES TO GET ON TOP OF A WALMART. 
          OH MY GOSH. 
          UM, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY COMPLAINTS IN, I DUNNO, NINE MONTHS PROBABLY. 
          WOW. 
          BUT IF WE HAVE LIKE, IT, IT'S ALSO ADJACENT TO RESIDENCE, NOT AS CLOSE AS YOU GUYS ARE HERE. 
          IT'S ACROSS THE LENGTH OF THE PARKING GARAGE, THE RIVER APARTMENTS BACK UP TO IT. 
          UM, BUT YEAH, I HAVE THE ANNOUNCEMENT FEATURE HAS THE LIGHTS. 
          UM, WE ALSO, BUT THAT'S MANAGED BY US, RIGHT BY THE CITY. 
          SO WE HAVE A SECURITY VENDOR THAT ALSO GETS NOTIFIED THAT WHEN THEY SEE SOMETHING, THEY'LL GO UP THERE TOO. 
          AND LIKE IF THE CAMERAS DIDN'T, UM, GET THE PEOPLE TO LEAVE SECURITY THERE. 
          BUT YEAH, WE SO WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE MORE SIMILAR THOUGH? MAYBE A BEACH PARKING LOT OR SOMETHING? WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE MORE SIMILAR TO OUR SITUATION? IS THERE SOMETHING WE DO THE BEACH PARKING LOTS TO OKAY. 
          ONE FAIR. 
          THAT'S ALL UNDER OUR CONTRACT TOO. 
          UM, ALRIGHT. 
          WE, BUT SOME OF THE BEACHES, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT, RIGHT? THEY HAVE, UH, WE SWING GATES AND STUFF THAT CLOSE SPACE ON. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANYTHING COMPLETELY NOW, I GUESS TO AN OPEN SERVICE LOT RIGHT NEXT TO A RESTAURANT AND A HOUSE. 
          I, IT'S KIND OF NEAT. 
          YEAH. 
          THERE'S THINGS THAT ARE, WE'VE DONE, BUT THIS, THIS IS ALSO SOMETHING NEW. 
          SO WE, THERE'S A PROBLEM WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM, WHICH INCLUDES TRYING NEW THINGS. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S, IT'S A PILOT. 
          YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY THEN'S A PILOT. 
          SO JUST TWO SILLY QUESTIONS AND UM, JUST CAN YOU STAND ON THE SOLAR PANELS AND DEACTIVATE THE CAMERAS? IS THERE ENOUGH HEIGHT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO? I DON'T, YEAH. 
          SOMEONE CAN GET UP AND I MEAN, THEY'D HAVE TO BE A SHARP SHOOTER TO TRY TO GET IT OUT. 
          OKAY. 
          THEY CAN, THEY, THEY'RE ALL, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THEY COULD GET DAMAGED IF SOMEONE'S REALLY AGGRESSIVE. 
          UM, GENERALLY THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN TOO OFTEN UNLESS IT'S IN A REALLY ROUGH AREA. 
          AND FOR THE MORE YOU CAN CALL THE POLICE IMMEDIATELY. 
          YEAH, I GUESS IT WOULD CALL. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, WE HAVE EYES ON, I MEAN, SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN. 
          UM, AND IT'S IN A BUSY AREA LIKE THIS, IT'S GENERALLY, I MEAN, WHEN WE DO WITH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE INNER CITIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT WHERE CRIME'S REALLY BAD, UM, THAT, THAT BRINGS IN MORE OF THAT ISSUE. 
          BUT FOR THE MOST PART, UM, I WOULDN'T WORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          AND THEN JUST SECONDLY, BECAUSE THERE'S NO BATTERY IN THE MODEL THAT YOU'RE INSTALLING, YOU KNOW'S, SUPPOSED TO BE A VERY WET WINTER, WILL IT POTENTIALLY NOT GET ENOUGH SUN TO POWER ON IT? WELL, SO THEY DO COME WITH BATTERIES AND THE SOLAR PANEL, WE'RE CHARGING THE BATTERIES. 
          GOT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          ARE ARE WE READY FOR ANY MORE CLARIFICATIONS OR ARE WE READY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM THREE? PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
           CSI PATROL SERVICE. 
          UH, WE'RE HERE THURSDAY THROUGH SUNDAY FROM MIDNIGHT TO SIX IN THE MORNING. 
          ONCE THESE CAMERAS ARE ACTIVATED, WOULD YOUR TEAM BE WILLING TO REACH OUT TO US TO ASSIST WITH YOU? 'CAUSE WE KNOW THE STAFFING SHORTAGE ON PD IN RESPONSE TO YEAH. 
          I MEAN THAT WOULD, THAT WOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM. 
          IT WOULD JUST NEED TO BE AUTHORIZED BY THE CITY OF BEACH. 
          AND IF THEY'RE OKAY WITH THIS. 
          OH, I'M SO SORRY. 
          WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO ASK QUESTIONS. 
          OH, SORRY. 
          THAT'S ALL I GOT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'LL JUST GO MICHELLE SIMON. 
          SO I JUST, UH, WANTED TO MAKE A A POINT ABOUT THERE WERE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS THE RESIDENTS HAD THAT, UM, STAFF WERE KIND ENOUGH TO ANSWER VIA EMAIL. 
          AND THE MAIN POINT CONFUSION, I THINK IS, WELL ONE OF THE AREAS OF CONFUSION HAS BEEN WHAT IS THE ROLE OF THIS BODY? YOU NEED TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT THESE CAMERAS BEING IMPLEMENTED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND IT APPEARS, UM, THAT PUBLIC WORKS HAS ALREADY DECIDED THAT WAS THE INFORMATION THAT WE, A FEW OF US WERE GIVEN, UM, THAT THIS IS A DONE DEAL, BUT, AND YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S GOOD OR NOT, NOT REALLY FINE ON, I'M JUST MAKING THE POINT THAT IT FEELS LIKE A BIT OF A CHARADE, 
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YOU KNOW, IN THE BUCKET OF THIS BODY REALLY BEING, UM, REDUNDANT, SOMEWHAT RELEVANT WITH THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. 
          ANYWAY, UM, BECAUSE THIS IS HAPPENING, SO I THINK THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION LAST TIME WHEN YOU ALL VOTED ON TAKING THE REPORT WITHOUT THE REPRESENTATIVES HERE, WHAT Y'ALL VOTING ON. 
          IT WOULD BE NICE FOR YOU ALL TO DISCUSS EXACTLY WHAT IS THE ROLE OF THIS BODY AND THIS OR MAY OR EVEN ON THE BUDGET, THESE CAMERAS VERSUS THE CITY. 
          ARE WE DECIDING THIS IS HAPPENING? EARTHQUAKE DRILL, EARTHQUAKE DRILL, . 
          OH, GOOD. 
          TABLE RIGHT HERE FOR THAT. 
          NO. 
          UH, I'M ESELLA TEDO A RESIDENT. 
          UH, MY QUESTION IS, WILL THE PUBLIC BE ABLE TO VIEW THE UNFILTERED AND UNREDAPTED REPORTS OF WHAT THE ECA CAPTURES? AND I ASK THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE ASKED THE PUBLIC, THE RESIDENTS HAVE REPEATEDLY ASKED FOR THE CSI REPORTS AND NONE HAVE BEEN SHARED. 
          SO SINCE THESE ARE PUBLIC MONIES THAT ARE FUNDING, UM, I WOULD REALLY LIKE, UH, THE REPORTS TO BE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AS WELL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES. 
          UH, BRIAN CORAN, BELMONT SHORE RESIDENT, UM, I CAN APPRECIATE THE CONTEXT IN WHICH THIS, UH, PROPOSAL ARISES AND IT'S, UH, INDICATIVE OF, UH, DISCUSSIONS GOING ACROSS THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW WHERE MONEY STRAPPING MUNICIPALITIES AND FRUSTRATED RESIDENTS ARE ALL CLAMORING AND HOPING FOR CHANGES THAT WILL MAKE AN IMPACT. 
          UM, BUT THE SOLUTIONS THAT ARE ON THE TABLE AND HAVE BEEN REJECTED IN MUNICIPALITIES ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY, IN CASE YOU HAVEN'T BEEN AWARE, PLOT CAMERAS ARE THE MAIN BRAND OF THESE THINGS, BUT THE IMPACTS OF WHERE CAMERAS GO AND HOW MUCH THEY'RE COLLECTING IS VERY PROBLEMATIC. 
          COMMUNITIES, UM, COMMUNITIES ARE REJECTING THESE CONTRACTS. 
          THEY'RE UN UNDOING ALL THE CAMERAS THEY'VE PLACED BEFORE. 
          UH, WE HAVE A SURVEILLANCE CAMERA THAT'S ABOUT, UH, TRAFFIC SAFETY MONITORING IN PLACE AND THAT THAT HAS SOME CONTROLS ON IT. 
          BUT THIS ONE SEEMS TO BE UNSUPERVISED. 
          IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING GOES IN THE CONTRACT THAT DEFINES THINGS. 
          AND THERE'S A CONCERN ABOUT WHAT DAD'S COLLECTING. 
          AND UH, I REMIND YOU THERE ARE MINORS WHO WILL BE PRESENT IN THESE PARKING LOTS TOO. 
          UM, SO SOME POINTS TO MAKE. 
          UH, DON'T BELIEVE THE BROCHURE AND THE B******T HEIGHT WITHIN THERE. 
          PREVENTION IS AN UNQUANTIFIABLE GUESS, GUESS AT BEST. 
          YOU CAN'T SAY THEY'RE PREVENTING SOMETHING BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED OR WOULD'VE HAPPENED WITHOUT THAT. 
          THAT'S A PR HYPE FROM THE COMPANY. 
          THE STORM LIGHTS BUILT INTO THIS. 
          ANYONE WHO'S BEEN TO A MALL WOULD RECOGNIZE HOW INVASIVE THOSE ARE. 
          UH, SEEING THOSE IN OUR COMMUNITY RIGHT BEHIND RESIDENCES IN PARKING LOTS, THAT'S AN IMPACT AND A PROBLEM FOR OUR COMMUNITY. 
          FOR ONE, UM, THE CONTRACT HAS IT, IT NOTES AN AUDIO OUT SO THAT THERE'S AN INTERACTION WITH POTENTIAL OFFENDERS. 
          SO AI IS TRIGGERING THIS FROM THE COMPANY TO ALERT AND THEN ENGAGE WITH THAT. 
          WHO'S GONNA BE ON THAT THING AT TWO IN THE MORNING THAT'S GOING TO INTERACT WITH SOMEBODY AND GO, PLEASE MOVE BLOCK. 
          OR IS THAT AN AUTOMATED THING? AND THEN WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT TIE INTO CSI AND ALL THE OTHER MEASURES THAT WE'RE PAYING GREAT AMOUNTS SUPPORT PUBLIC EXPENSE. 
          UM, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION ALONGSIDE THE CSI DATA REPORT. 
          AS NOTED, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE SEEN ANY DATA HERE THAT COLLECTED DATA FOR TWO PLUS YEARS SHOULD BE A PUBLIC PART OF THE RECORD AND SHOULD BE TRACKABLE. 
          AND IT SHOULD BE QUANTIFIED BY A CATEGORY SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT THE IMPACTS ARE. 
          WHEN I LOOK AT THE CSI PART OF THIS, AND I WILL ADDRESS THAT SEPARATELY, I SEE ALMOST NEGLIGIBLE IMPACT. 
          AND THIS IS JUST THROWING COSMETIC EFFORTS. 
          IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS A PROBLEM BUT IS NOT BEING ADDRESSED BY THE PROPER RESOURCES. 
          UM, WHAT WE HEAR FROM ALLISON, THE REASON THE CITY STAFF IS THAT THIS EFFORT WITH THE CAMERAS IS LARGELY DIRECTED AT PROTECTING THE CITY PROPERTY. 
          THIS WAS NOT GONNA HAVE ANY IMPACT ON RESIDENTIAL QUALITY OF LIFE FOR SAFETY. 
          IT'S A COSMETIC EFFORT IN AESTHETIC, A BIT OF THEATER, BUT SMOKE MIRRORS. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, I'M GONNA CALL FOR THIS AND SAY IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN. 
          WHERE WILL THE PUBLIC DATA REPORTING ON THIS EFFICACY AND IMPACT COME FROM? WHO WILL OVERSEE THE INFORMATION AND HOW IT'LL BE DISSEMINATED IF IT'S ONLY IN THIS BODY THAT RESULTS IN A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE KNOWING ABOUT IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSABLE AND TRACKABLE AND PART OF THE CONVERSATION. 
          . 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          ALRIGHT, LET'S, LET'S HAVE A DISCUSSION AROUND THE TABLE ABOUT WHAT WE'VE HEARD AND WHAT, WHAT OUR THOUGHTS ARE. 
          WOULD JUDGE START YET, OR, UM, SURE. 
          UM, I THINK OVERALL I AM VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF TRYING IT. 
          IF FOR NO OTHER REASON WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING. 
          UM, I THINK MY ONLY CONCERN IS, IS HOW THE WELL DOES IT INTEGRATE BETWEEN 
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THE COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL AREAS. 
          AND I GUESS WE DON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL THERE'S ONE UP AND WE ACTUALLY SEE IT AND HERE, ESPECIALLY FROM ANY RESIDENTS WITHIN EARSHOT, EYESHOT OF, UH, THOSE UNITS, UM, HOW IT'S ACTUALLY WORKING. 
          UM, SO RIGHT NOW I WOULD BE VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF AT LEAST TRYING SOMETHING. 
          'CAUSE IT'S GONNA BE BETTER THAN DOING NOTHING. 
          YES, I SECOND HIS COMMENTS, TELL ME WHAT'S WRONG WITH HAVING TOO MUCH SECURITY ON SECOND STREET VERSUS WHAT WE HAVE NOW. 
          WE'VE GOT A CRIME ISSUE. 
          WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT LOITER, WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT THROW TRASH EVERYWHERE. 
          DO NOT TAKE OUR COMMUNITY PROPER, TAKE CARE OF OUR COMMUNITY PROPER. 
          SO I AM ALL FOR GETTING SOME KIND OF SUPPORT AND I THINK THIS IS A GREAT STARTING POINT. 
          AND I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE HATE BIG BROTHER, BUT I THINK IT AT LEAST GIVES US EYES FOR SOMEBODY THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO CONTROL A YOUNG LADY BEING RAPED OR A GENTLEMAN'S WATCH BEING RIPPED OFF OR ANYTHING THAT IS, IS A PROBLEM ON SECOND STREET AND THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND I GUESS AS A RESIDENT, BECAUSE I AM A RESIDENT, I WOULD BE UPSET THAT NOTHING HAPPENED VERSUS SOMETHING THAT COULD PREVENT THE ISSUE. 
          SO I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS IDEA. 
          IT'S WORTH A TRY. 
          GREAT. 
          I MEAN, I AGREE TO YOU. 
          I THINK IT'S DEFINITELY WORTH A TRY. 
          ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, CLARIFICATIONS FOR THIS? I, I CONCUR. 
          I THINK THAT, UM, SHORT OF, WE ALL WANT POLICE ON THE STREET. 
          I KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY HAS BEEN WANTING FOR A VERY LONG TIME. 
          IT'S OBVIOUS IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN. 
          WE NEED TO AT LEAST TRY SOMETHING. 
          I DO AGREE WITH THE RESIDENTS. 
          I THINK THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO REPORTS TO SEE WHERE WE ARE. 
          UM, AND BECAUSE IT IS A PILOT, UH, MY NEIGHBORS ARE RIGHT IN THAT PARKING LOT. 
          SO TO LET THEM VOICE THEIR, IT'S IN MY, YOU KNOW, THE LIGHTS COMING THROUGH MY WINDOW, I CAN'T SLEEP AT NIGHT OR IT'S LOUD OR WHATEVER IT IS. 
          BUT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING AND I THINK THIS IS AN OPTION THAT IS VIABLE. 
          IS THERE A PHONE NUMBER ON THESE? LIKE IF THE RESIDENT IS BEING KEPT AWAKE OR IT'S TOO LOUD, OR LIKE HOW WILL THEY KNOW WHO TO CALL? CAN WE PUT SOMETHING ON THE MACHINE SAYING, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, RESIDENTS IF YOU HAVE FEEDBACK OR IS THERE SOMETHING, I MEAN, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I LIVE RIGHT NEXT TO ONE OF THESE PARKING LOTS. 
          I I OBVIOUSLY I HAD KNOW WHERE TO GO, BUT IF I DIDN'T WASN'T PART OF THIS, I WOULDN'T KNOW WHERE TO GO. 
          IS THERE, HOW DOES THAT WORK? UM, THERE IS AN 800 NUMBER ON THE UNIT WITH 24 7. 
          WE HAVE OPERATORS WORKING AROUND THE CLOCK. 
          WE HAVE FIVE COMMAND CENTERS, UH, ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY. 
          BUT, UM, I THINK IT'S ULTIMATELY UP TO THE ACCOUNT. 
          HOLD ON. 
          WE DON'T WANT LIKE SOMEONE ON THE STREET TO JUST CALL AND, AND SAY, CAN YOU TURN OFF? WELL, NO, THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING MAYBE IT COULD BE, WE HAVE A DEDICATED POINT PERSON, SO IF YOU'RE STARTING TO HEAR FEEDBACK, UM, YOUR ACCOUNT MANAGER COULD EASILY JUST CHANGE SETTINGS OR CHANGE PROTOCOLS. 
          SO WE DO HAVE THOUGH A LIVE MONITORING, SO SOMEONE IS THEIR WATCHING, YOU KNOW, FOR RESIDENT TO COME OUT AND BE YELLING AT THE COMPUTER, LIKE, YOU KNOW, TURN IT OFF. 
          IT'S SO LOUD. 
          SO IT FEELS LIKE THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING LIKE, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A, THERE'S GOTTA BE A FEEDBACK WITH THE CITY. 
          I MEAN WE CAN TAKE THAT BACK. 
          THAT'S REALLY MORE OF A CITY ISSUE THAN A VENDOR ISSUE. 
          I FEEL LIKE MOST OF OUR RESIDENTS DO KNOW HOW TO REACH DAVID OR MYSELF. 
          I GUESS THEY CALL, THEY CALL COUNCIL MEMBERS' OFFICE OFTEN. 
          UM, BUT UM, WE'RE, WE'LL TAKE THAT BACK AND LEMME GIVE THIS SOME, AND YOU HAD SOME STATS ABOUT SUPPORT REDUCING IN DIFFERENT TYPES, CRIME OR ISSUES BY ABOUT 40%. 
          AND I THINK THIS IS WHAT'S DIFFICULT WHEN WE HEAR, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE QUESTION THAT'S WHY IT'S A PILOT, YOU KNOW, BUT HOW, HOW DO YOU, YOU HAVE PROOF POINTS ON THAT, RIGHT? YES. 
          GLOBALLY ACROSS OUR, OUR ORGANIZATION. 
          UH, SOME JUST, JUST BY WHAT WE SEE AND JUST WHAT THE PART OF, IT'S THE ACTUAL TRACKABLE STUFF WHERE WE'VE UM, YOU KNOW, CAN QUANTIFY AS FAR AS HOW MANY TIMES POLICE RESPONDED, HOW MANY TIMES POLICE SHOWED UP, UH, HOW MANY TIMES WE, YOU KNOW, WE SOUNDED A SPEAKER AND WARNED SOMEONE TO LEAVE AND THEY LEFT ON CAMERA. 
          SO THE, ALL THAT STUFF'S TRACKED, UM, WITH OUR AND, AND HOW AND WOULD WE BE, 
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HAVE ACCESS TO THE DATA RYAN OR CHRIS WOULD WE HAVE ACCESS TO WITH THE COMMUNITY? NOT JUST US, BUT WE WANT, WE WANT TO SEE IT. 
          BUT IS IT, IT WOULD BE PUBLIC RECORD, CORRECT? IT WOULD BE PUBLIC RECORD, YES. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE SHOULD BE GOOD THEN. 
          SO I, MY COMMENTS ARE THAT IT'S A PILOT AND, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T PROVE A NEGATIVE. 
          YOU CAN'T SAY WHAT SOMETHING DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S FOR THE NEXT COMMENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ABOUT CCSI OR WITH THIS, YOU KNOW, WHAT DID WE PREVENT? YOU CAN'T PROVE THAT SOMETHING DIDN'T HAPPEN, BUT YOU CAN PROVE THAT THERE'S LESS OF IT IF THAT, IF THAT'S THE CASE. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING A PILOT TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THE, WE DON'T WANT TO DISTURB THE RESIDENTS. 
          WE WANT A GOOD QUALITY OF LIFE HERE. 
          SO I, I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO ALSO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION WITH INFORMED, YOU KNOW, WITH INFORMATION. 
          WE DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION YET 'CAUSE WE HAVEN'T PILOTED IT YET. 
          SO ONCE WE DO, AND THIS IS THE CITY'S IDEA AND IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD MITIGATION STRATEGY AND A STARTING POINT. 
          IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S THE TOP OF THE ESCALATION MATTER. 
          IT'S JUST ONE OPTION. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAPPY TO SEE SOMETHING MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE I'VE BEEN ON THIS BODY FOR NOW JUST GOING ON TWO YEARS AND, AND WE HAVE TALKED A LOT ABOUT DIFFERENT STRATEGIES, YOU KNOW, FROM HAVING SOMEONE IN A BOOTH IN THE, YOU KNOW, IN THE PARKING LOT TO CHANGING THE LIGHTING TO, I MEAN, THERE'S BEEN MANY DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. 
          TRAFFIC PATTERNS AND TRYING TO GET TO A SOLUTION THAT EVERYBODY CAN, UM, AGREE WITH AT THE CITY. 
          YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'RE RECOMMENDING AND WE'VE LOOKED AT THOSE OTHER OPTIONS AND I STILL THINK THEY'RE ON THE TABLE. 
          WE'RE NOT TAKING ANY OPTIONS OFF THE TABLE BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING THIS, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A VOICE WITH THIS ITEM. 
          AND WE WILL, ONCE WE GET THE DATA, AND IT'S ALL ABOUT THE DATA AND WHAT FEEDBACK WE GET FROM, YOU KNOW, THE ACTUAL DATA AND FROM THE, THE RESIDENTS AND THE PEOPLE THAT IT IMPACTS THEM. 
          THIS IS REALLY ABOUT COMMUNITY BEING, COMMUNITY CENTRIC. 
          IT REALLY IS AND UNPROTECTED. 
          SO LET'S, UH, LET'S CONTINUE ON AND, AND TRY TO DO OUR BEST. 
          SO AT THAT POINT WE COULD CALL COURT THAT FOR THE QUESTION. 
          COMMISSIONER CLAIRE. 
          AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER ZA AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER DUNCAN? AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER JENSEN? AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER MILLER AYE. 
          AND CHAIR CASTRO. 
          AYE. 
          MOTION MS. CARRIED RIGHT. 
          NUMBER FOUR, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE STATUS UPDATES ON C. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE STATUS UPDATES ON CSI PATROL OF LONG BEACH WORK IN BELMONT SHORE AREA, INCLUDING RESPONSES TO REQUEST FOR ASSISTANCE FOR SEPTEMBER, 2026. 
          MAY I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THIS ITEM? MAKE A MOTION JUSTIN. 
          SECOND. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          ALRIGHT, ANY CLARIFICATIONS WE WANT FROM, UH, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE A GUEST HERE FROM CSI. 
          YES. 
          SO SHALL THEY COME UP? YES. 
          CLERK. 
          CLERK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          . 
          WANNA INTRODUCE YOURSELVES? MY NAME'S DENNIS COOK. 
          I'M THE PRESIDENT OF CEO OF CSI PATROL SERVICE. 
          WE'RE ESTABLISHED IN 1991 HERE IN BIG CITY. 
          AND MONT, UH, JASON RICHARD, OPERATIONS MANAGER FOR CSI PATROL SERVICE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY. 
          DID YOU WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT YOUR REPORT OR DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THE REPORT FIRST? UH, YEAH, THIS WAS, THIS WAS JUST TO IN INTRODUCE EVERYONE I KNOW WE HAD A LOT OF NEW COMMISSIONERS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE CSI, IT'S GOOD TIME TO GET THE CSI TEAM INTRODUCED TO THE NEW COMMISSIONERS AND WHATNOT. 
          AND WE'RE ALSO GONNA BE ROLLING OUT, UM, MONTHLY REPORTS FOR, UH, CALLS OF SERVICE. 
          UM, WE'VE ATTACHED THE CSI PATROL SERVICE FOR AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER. 
          WHAT THESE REPORTS SHOW IS LIKE A DATE, TIME, LOCATION, DESCRIPTION OF WHAT WAS BEING ASKED AND THE KIND OF ACTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN. 
          UM, AND IT'S TWO MONTHS, IT'S AUGUST, SEPTEMBER, AND THIS IS GONNA BE MOVING FORWARD. 
          THIS IS GONNA BE A MONTHLY ITEM THAT WE'LL BE BRINGING TO THE COMMISSION EACH MONTH. 
          UM, I THINK ONE OF THE NOTES THAT WE WANT TO JUST KIND OF GO OVER A LITTLE BIT IS LIKE THE MAIN IN THE AUGUST REPORT, THE CSI TEAM HAS SHOWN LIKE MAIN AREAS OF FOCUS HAVE BEEN THE ALLEYWAYS NORTH AND SOUTH SIDE STREET. 
          THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE CONSISTENTLY SEEN IN THAT AREAS. 
          UM, OVERALL, YOU KNOW, NO CALLS FOR PD FOR THE, FOR THE SECURITY TEAM, UM, OVERNIGHT. 
          THERE ARE LARGE GROUPS THAT ARE DISPERSING, HOWEVER, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN CREATING ANY ISSUES RECENTLY, HOWEVER, HAS, HAS THAT CHANGED IN SEPTEMBER? HAVE YOU NOTICED ANY KIND OF CHANGE 
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OR RECEIVED ANY KIND OF, YOU KNOW, NOTICE OR SO SPEAKING WITH THE TEAM, UM, 19 SPECIFICALLY, UH, CREWS ARE OUT. 
          THEY, THEY WANT TO SAY CREWS, LARGE GUESTS ARE OUT. 
          THEY'RE NOT FROM WHAT THE CREW SCENE, THEY'RE LEAVING THE BAR. 
          THEY WERE TALKING FOR A FEW MINUTES INSIDE, UM, OUTSIDE OF THE, UH, BAR AND THEN LEAVING. 
          WE HAVE HAD A COUPLE INSTANCES WHERE WE'VE GOT TO DEESCALATE AND, HEY GUYS, YOU NEED TO LEAVE. 
          PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU DON'T CAUSE ANY PROBLEMS TO LEAVE. 
          UM, BUT OUR TEAM IS DOING A LOT OF WORK OF PUSHING PEOPLE FROM, I DON'T MEAN THAT ABOUT, BUT DIRECTING GUESTS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD GOING BACK INTO SECOND STREET, TRYING TO KEEP THE ACTIVITY OFF SECOND STREET OUT OF THE CAMERAS. 
          THERE'S A LOT MORE PEOPLE. 
          IT'S JUST YOU HAVE A TEAM APPROVED RUNNING THE ENTIRE SECOND STREET AREA, SO THEY CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND ONE OF THE MAIN CALLS THAT WE DO GET IS FROM RESIDENTS SAYING, HEY, THERE'S LOUD NOISE OVER HERE, CAN YOU MOVE THEM OUT? SO OUR OFFICERS WILL GO AHEAD APPROACH THE INDIVIDUAL, SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT'S GOING ON? OH, WE JUST WANT GO TOP, GO BACK OVER TO WHERE YOU WERE, YOU'RE IN THE RESIDENCE. 
          WE DON'T WANT TO DISTURB HIM. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S DISRESPECT. 
          UM, I DID NOTICE THAT IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE ANY OF THE TIMES ARE IN THEIR, UM, 12:00 AM TO 6:00 PM ON THE REPORT THOUGH. 
          LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE ALL DAYTIME REPORTS. 
          DO THE NIGHTTIME PEOPLE NOT DO REPORTS? THEY DO, YEAH, THEY DO REPORTS. 
          UM, WHEN WE WERE ASKED TO CREATE THIS, WE HAD TO GO THROUGH OUR VENDOR. 
          OUR REPORTING SYSTEM IS A LOT DIFFERENT THAN THIS. 
          OUR REPORTING SYSTEM IS LIVE TRACK. 
          SO BASICALLY OUR OFFICERS ARE GOING OUT THROUGH THE AREA, WHATEVER THEY SEE, THEY'RE GONNA TAKE A PICTURE. 
          UM, THAT PICTURE IS GPS TIME AND, AND, UH, SORRY, TIME TRACK AND GPS STAFF FOR WHAT THAT OFFICER SEES RIGHT THEN AND THERE. 
          UM, THAT REPORT GOES STRAIGHT IN. 
          UM,  ACCESS REPORT, UM, ON OUR CLIENT SIDE CAN GO THROUGH AND SEE EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED. 
          WHEN THEY GO TO THAT PICTURE, UH, THEY SELECT THAT PICTURE AND SHOW THE GPS TIMESTAMP AND THE LOCATION, UH, OF WHERE THAT IS. 
          SO WHAT WHAT HAPPENED IS WHEN WE WERE ASKED FOR THIS, WE, WE WERE TRYING TO GET OUR VENDORS TO CREATE A MONTHLY REPORTS SYSTEM WASN'T DONE AS, AS WELL AS ONCE. 
          SO IN THE NEXT FEW, IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, I'LL NEED TO GO IN AND TAKE AN OVER SUBMITTING. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, I HAD TO LOOK AT MY MILITARY TIME, BUT I WAS LIKE, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING AT 2300 OR ONE OR TWO OR NO, YOU KNOW. 
          SO PIGGYBACKING ON WHAT, WHAT JASON WAS JUST SAYING, UH, FOR INSTANCE, WHEN I HAD TO STEP OUT AND MAKE A CALL, UH, THOSE THAT HAVE ACCESS TO THE SYSTEM, WE'LL SEE THAT THERE WAS A CALL GENERATED AND UPLOADED INTO THE SYSTEM AND PROBABLY ABOUT 10 20, 10 22 OFFICER MARCUS, WHO'S OUR DAY OFFICER RIGHT NOW, JUST REMOVED A HOMELESS GENTLEMAN FROM THE CORNER SO THEY WOULD SEE THE PHOTO OF THE GENTLEMAN. 
          WHEN I STEPPED OUT, I SAW HIM TAKING THE PHOTO AND DOING HIS ENTRY. 
          SO I'M LIKE, HOW'S IT GOING? WHAT ARE YOU DOING  MEETING, THANKS FOR DOING YOUR JOB. 
          SO THAT'S STUFF THAT'S JUST INSTANT TO EVERYBODY THAT'S ON THAT LIST. 
          OKAY. 
          HUH. 
          HOW MANY OF, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE OUT DURING THE DAY AND AT NIGHT? AS OF RIGHT NOW, THE DAY PATROL IS ONE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THERE NEEDS TO BE TWO. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          ONE OFFICER DURING THE DAY HOURS IS THE TWO OFFICERS DURING THE NIGHT. 
          CORRECT. 
          THEY'RE IN, THE TWO OFFICERS ARE IN THE SAME VEHICLE. 
          SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE ONE UNIT. 
          OH, THE TWO RIDE TOGETHER IN THE EVENING FOR FOR OFFICER SAFETY? YES, MA'AM. 
          YES. 
          GOOD. 
          MM-HMM . 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO WHAT ABOUT REPORTING RYAN? WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE YOU ASKING FOR FROM, WHAT ARE WE ASKING FOR FROM THE CITY SO THAT WE HAVE MORE ACCESS TO SEEING, YOU KNOW, SEEING WHAT THAT SOME OF THESE SCREENSHOTS AND A LITTLE BIT MORE DEEPER DIVE ON WHAT WE CAN GET. 
          ARE WE GETTING ANY OF THAT GOING FORWARD? WHAT, WHAT IS THAT REPORT GONNA LOOK LIKE? THE, THE REPORT THAT'S GENERATED SOMETHING THAT JASON IS WORKING ON, BUT ONE OF THE GOOD THINGS IS WITH THE PHOTOS UHHUH  WITH THE 6 0 2 PROGRAM, WE COULD SIT THERE AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS IS A CONSTANT VIOLATOR. 
          THEN WE COULD ADD THEM TO THE SYSTEM AND PD COULD HELP US ENFORCE THAT ON REMOVING THE INDIVIDUAL AND GETTING A RESTRAINING ORDER ON. 
          GOOD. 
          SO, AND IT BENEFITS NOT JUST THE RESIDENTS BUT THE BUSINESS OWNERS. 
          THAT'S GOOD. 
          WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD THIS BEFORE. 
          SO THIS IS NEW AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE WANTED TO, TO LOOK AT. 
          SO THIS IS AN IMPROVEMENT. 
          NO, WE APPRECIATE YOU REACHING OUT. 
          RYAN BROUGHT IT TO OUR ATTENTION AND WE TOOK IT TO OUR VENDOR. 
          AT THE TIME IT WAS ONLY GOING TO THREE. 
          UM, OUR VENDOR ONLY ALLOWS THREE PEOPLE TO HAVE ACCESS. 
          SO THAT'S WHY IT'S A LEARNING PHASE IS THE FIRST TIME THEY'VE HAD THAT. 
          SO IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS. 
          AND SO FAR I'M PRETTY IMPRESSED WITH THEIR RESPONSE. 
          THEY'RE WORKING. 
          IT'S JUST THEIR SYSTEM WAS DESIGNED TO DO ONE SPECIFIC THING. 
          WE'RE ASKING THEM TO DO A SEPARATE ENTITY, SO THEY'RE WORKING WITH US FOR THE MEANTIME. 
          I'LL BE GENERATING, WELL, 
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IT'S GOOD, IT'S GOOD TO HEAR BECAUSE WE KNOW YOU'RE THERE, BUT HAVING THIS INFORMATION THEN VALIDATES WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND HOW YOU ARE HELPING US PREVENT INCIDENTS. 
          AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE A WINDOW TO BEFORE. 
          YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH YOU WERE, YOU KNOW, NOT QUESTIONING YOU BETWEEN THE DRIVE, WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE A WAY TO TIE IT TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT LETS EVERYBODY SEE THE FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT'S ACTUALLY GOING ON AT NIGHT AS WELL AS DURING THE DAY. 
          YOU, THAT'S EXCELLENT. 
          THAT'S EXCELLENT. 
          ANY OTHER CLARIFICATIONS OR DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? BRIAN, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS ON SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THESE REPORTS THAT AREN'T IN THEM? WELL, I THINK IF WE HAD PHOTO I, I'D LIKE TO SEE, WE WANT, I THINK THE PUBLIC WANTS TO SEE, WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SEE, UNLESS THERE'S ANY KIND OF VIOLATION OF PEOPLE'S, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU COULD HAVE THE PICTURE PHOTOS OF THE PEOPLE OR YOU KNOW, OR WHAT THE INCIDENT WAS. 
          IF IT'S POSSIBLE, THE PHOTOS I WOULD KEEP STRICTLY IN HOUSE. 
          OKAY. 
          FOR PRIVACY. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WAS FOLLOWING. 
          AND IF THE POLICE ARE REQUESTING THAT INFORMATION OR WE WANT TO WORK WITH THEM ON THE RESTRAINING ORDER, THEN WE'LL GO AND RELEASE IT TO THEM. 
          AND THAT PROTECTS EVERYBODY. 
          SO IF YOU COULD MAKE NOTATIONS THOUGH, AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, RESTRAINING OR ISSUED OR PHOTO SHARED WITH THE POLICE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          SO WE KNOW WHAT THE ACTION STEP WAS AFTER THE, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THERE IS A REPEAT, YOU KNOW, ISSUE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          CORRECT. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORK WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLAY OF ABY KNOWLES TO WHERE WHEN WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE PLACED ON THE 6 0 2 ORDER, UHHUH , THEN WE COULD GO AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? THEY ALREADY HAVE A PHOTO. 
          OUR TEAM KNOWS WHO IT IS. 
          HE'S OVER IN FRONT, UH, WELL LET'S JUST SAY ATLANTIC AND . 
          MM-HMM . 
          WE GET A CALL FROM A BUSINESS OWNER OR A RESIDENT, HEY, THEY'RE IN FRONT OF SO-AND-SO. 
          PERFECT. 
          OUR OFFICER GETS ON SITE, DETAINS 'EM, WE CALL PD. 
          WHEN THEY'RE ABLE TO COME PICK HIM UP, THEY PICK HIM UP OR SIDE 'EM OUT. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          ARE QUESTIONS? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          CAN WE GET, UH, WE GET THE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          IS THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM FOUR? PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. 
          PERFECT. 
          UH, THERE'S A LOT OF CONTACT HERE. 
          UH, FIRST OFF, THE FACT THAT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME ANY REPORTING HAS BEEN DONE OVER A MULTI YEAR AND A HALF CONTRACT HAVE SERVED, THERE HAS TO HAVE BEEN DATA, THE CONTRACT CALLED FOR INITIATIVE, UH, REQUEST FOR A PROPOSAL, CALL FOR INITIATIVE. 
          SO SOMEBODY'S CONTROLLING THAT ALL THAT DATA CAN BE SHARED HERE PUBLICLY. 
          I, I CALL B******T ON THIS BEING THE FIRST INSTANCE OF THIS. 
          UH, WITHIN THE DATA HERE, THIS SHOWS EXACTLY WHY THIS IS THEATER ONLY. 
          UM, SO MANY OF THE ITEMS ARE, UH, OFFICER MAY CONTACT OR SHOWED UP AFTER THE THING WAS GONE. 
          THE PEOPLE WERE NOT THERE. 
          THE TIMESTAMPS ON THESE ARE ALL LARGELY BEFORE THE PROBLEMATIC HOURS OF, UH, BETWEEN BASICALLY 11 AND TWO IN THE MORNING WHEN THE BARS OPERATE. 
          UM, WHAT WE'VE SEEN, AND I WILL SHARE THIS WITH YOU FIRSTHAND, UH, IN APRIL WE'VE RECORDED AN INCIDENT WHERE PEOPLE DANCED IN THE TRUCK ON CCSI SECURITY AND THEY DID NOT INTERACT WITH THEM WHATSOEVER. 
          THE SECURITY CONTROLS IS THE RIGHT OPTION NOT TO ESCALATE, BUT IT'S INDICATIVE OF EXACTLY THE PROBLEM. 
          THEY HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO DO ANYTHING. 
          THEY ARE DOING WHAT SHOULD BE AMOUNTS TO SIDE CONTACTS FROM PD ON THE SCENE. 
          BUT WHY THEY'RE NOT VISIBLE IN THOSE HOURS AFTER 11 8:11 PM TO TWO IN THE MORNING SHOWS EXACTLY WHERE THE PROBLEM LIES IS THAT THIS IS A PD PROBLEM AND IT STAYS SERIOUS ENOUGH. 
          BUT THESE GUYS ARE JUST THERE SHOWING OFF. 
          IT'S JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE SAY SOMETHING. 
          AND AGAIN, IT'S THE SAME THING WITH THE CAMERA, CAMERA CONTRACT. 
          THIS IS THE CITY WANTING TO PROTECT THIS PROPERTY. 
          THIS DOES NO IMPACT FOR COMMUNITY AND RESIDENCE WHATSOEVER. 
          THIS DOES NOT DO ANYTHING PAST THE PARKING LOT BEHIND THESE BUSINESSES AND THE OFFENDING PLACE OF THAT. 
          I HAVE BEEN PE SITTING FOR A NEIGHBOR FOR TWO WEEKS NOW. 
          EVERY TIME I DRIVE, NO MATTER WHAT TIME IT IS BETWEEN 11 AND TWO IN THE MORNING, THERE ARE DRUNK PATRONS ON THE SIDE STREETS CONTINUING THEIR PARTIES THROUGHOUT THE SPACE. 
          CSI DOES NOT ENGAGE WITH THEM WHATSOEVER. 
          THIS DOES NOT IMPACT THAT WHATSOEVER. 
          THE BARS ARE THE SOURCE OF THE PROBLEM. 
          BILL THE BARS FOR THE PROBLEMS AND WHAT YOU CAN PAY FOR. 
          THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC EXPENSE. 
          IF THE CITY WANTS TO PAY, PROTECT, PROTECT PUBLIC PROPERTY, LET THE CITY PAY FOR IT. 
          LET THAT BE SEPARATE. 
          IF THE BARS ARE THE SOURCE OF THE PROBLEM, BUILD THE BARS FOR THE F*****G PROBLEM. 
          THIS IS NOT SIR. 
          OH, ANY OBJECTION, GREAT. 
          FROM THE FORMER CHAIR WILL NOT PUT THIS CARD ON THE SCALE FURTHER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU HAVE NO STANDING HERE. 
          MY LANGUAGE. 
          ANY OTHER, UM, I WAS ALSO STRUCK BY THE TIMESTAMPS NOT REFLECTING. 
          WHAT I UNDERSTOOD THE ENTIRE PURPOSE OF HIRING YOU ALL THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, AS I UNDERSTOOD IT TOO, THAT WAS THE REASON FOR INCREASING THE PARKING FEES WAS TO PAY FOR SECURITY TO TAKE CARE OF THE, UM, BAR, LATE NIGHT BAR PROBLEMS ON THE STREET. 
          AND LET'S NOT FORGET 
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THE THREE MURDERS. 
          I FEEL LIKE WE JUST KEEP, YOU KNOW, PRETENDING THAT THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN. 
          UM, IT'S NOW WHAT, A YEAR SINCE, UM, THE MOST RECENT MURDER OF JEREMY SPEARS, UM, JUST OFF OF SECOND STREET THIS LATE OCTOBER, RIGHT AROUND THIS TIME OF YEAR. 
          SO I'M JUST REALLY, I, IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS A HOMELESS, YOU KNOW, MOVE ALONG HOMELESS PERSON PROGRAM. 
          UM, AND NOT WHAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE GETTING, WHICH WAS HELPING WITH SECURITY LATE AT NIGHT. 
          THE UM, SINGLE ITEM THAT REALLY DISTURBS ME IS, UM, SEPTEMBER 10TH OFFICER CAME ACROSS A GROUP CALLED ACL U, WHICH IS THE NATION'S MOST PREEMINENT DEFENDER OF CIVIL RIGHTS. 
          UM, PROTESTING DEFUNDING ADVICE, WHICH IS THE FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT IF THEY'RE ON PUBLIC PROPERTY, IT DOESN'T SAY WHETHER ON PRIVATE OF PUBLIC PROPERTY. 
          AND THEN IT SAYS THE OFFICER DOCUMENT, I DON'T LIKE NEED MONEY PAYING FOR, YOU KNOW, MONITORING FIRST AMENDMENT PROTECTED ACTIVITY. 
          SO ANYONE ELSE COMMENT? SAME AS THAT PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          OKAY, LET'S DISCUSS. 
          WANNA JUST START WITH JEFF AGAIN? WE'LL GO AROUND THE TABLE. 
          UM, LET ME START WITH SAYING THAT I APPRECIATE THAT WE HAVE THIS, UM, AS A BUSINESS OWNER, ONCE AGAIN, WE NEED HELP AND THE POLICE AREN'T ABLE TO PROVIDE IT. 
          UM, THIS ISN'T AN ANSWER TO CRIME IN BELMONT SHORE, BUT THE ANSWERS MIGHT BE MULTIFACETED. 
          I STILL BELIEVE THAT DOING A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS IS STILL BETTER THAN DOING NOTHING. 
          AND I'VE PERSONALLY, OR MY BUSINESS HAS PERSONALLY CALLED CSIA NUMBER OF TIMES AND THEY WOULD, THEY WERE CALLS THAT WOULD NORMALLY GO TO PD AND HOPEFULLY IF WE AT LEAST HAVE ANOTHER OPTION FOR HELP AND NOT TRYING TO TIE A PD AND LET THEM REALLY FOCUS ON, UM, SOME OF THE LARGER, UH, ISSUES AND CRIMES ARE GOING ON. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY'VE BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE. 
          UM, THEY'VE HELPED ON A NUMBER OF TIMES AND YEAH, IT IS, A LOT OF THIS IS DEALING WITH A HOMELESS AND MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, YOU KNOW, FOLKS THAT ARE, ARE IN THIS COMMUNITY. 
          UM, THAT IS REALLY THE ISSUE THAT HAS TO BE DEALT WITH. 
          AND UNTIL SOMEBODY CAN HELP DEAL WITH SOME OF THESE MUCH LARGER ISSUES AND HOW DO WE MITIGATE THAT? YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE TREADING WATER AND TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO STAY AFLOAT UNTIL BIGGER ISSUES CAN HONESTLY BE ADDRESSED. 
          AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I SEE THE CAMERAS YOU GUYS. 
          UM, AND I, I APPRECIATE AT LEAST HAVING THAT OPTION AVAILABLE AND GLAD YOU GUYS ARE HERE. 
          I SECOND THAT COMMENT. 
          UH, MORE EYES ON SOLVING ISSUES THAT WE HAVE ON SECOND STREET AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS ABSOLUTELY NEEDED AND I'M GLAD YOU'RE HERE AND I'M GLAD WE JUST GET THE REPORTING DONE BETTER. 
          SO SATISFY THE NEIGHBORHOOD A LITTLE BETTER AND AND ADDRESS THEIR ISSUES AS BEST WE CAN. 
          THEN WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING AND UH, I'M BEHIND. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          UM, YEAH, I THINK WE FORGET THAT THIS, MAYBE NOT FORGET, BUT THIS COMMUNITY IS A MIX OF RESIDENTS AND VISITS AND THIS IS A SUPPORT OF JUST THAT ADDITIONAL HELP WHICH MY BUSINESS HAS BENEFITED FROM IT. 
          UM, I LIKE THAT MY EMPLOYEES CAN FEEL SOME SENSE OF SECURITY KNOWING THEY HAVE SOMEONE TO CALL BECAUSE PDS NOT GONNA SHOW UP UNTIL A COUPLE HOURS LATER. 
          SO IF THERE'S SOMEONE IN THE STORE THAT'S DISTURBING THAT THEY CAN CALL CSI AND HAVE SOME SUPPORT AND IT HAS HAPPENED. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO VOICE THAT, THAT ALTHOUGH THERE MIGHT BE SOME THINGS THAT SEEM UM, TRIVIAL IN THESE REPORTS, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE NOT, AND THIS IS JUST ONE REPORT. 
          I DON'T OBVIOUSLY KNOW THE BACK END OF NOT GETTING REPORTS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS, BUT UM, I JUST KNOW FIRSTHAND WHAT HAS HAPPENED. 
          SO MM-HMM . 
          YEAH. 
          GOOD. 
          THANKS. 
          I WOULD JUST SAY AS A RESIDENT, I DON'T NECESSARILY SEE THE BENEFIT OF 
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CSI OR NOT. 
          RIGHT? IT'S NOT SOMEONE I WOULD CALL OR GO TO. 
          SO IT'S DIFFICULT FOR ME TO COMMENT LIKE YOU GUYS CAN, AS A BUSINESS OWNER, UM, I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO FUTURE REPORTS AND SEEING MORE ACTIVITY, PARTICULARLY IN THOSE HOURS THAT ARE NOT NOTED BEFORE, REALLY FORMING A OPINION AS A BUSINESS OWNER. 
          UM, I DO APPRECIATE HAVING YOU GUYS. 
          I'VE HAD TO CALL SEVERAL TIMES. 
          UM, MOSTLY FOR HOMELESS OR PEOPLE CAUSING PROBLEMS ON THE STREET. 
          I'VE HAD A YOUNG WOMAN COME IN CRYING 'CAUSE SHE WAS SO SCARED OF SOMEBODY WHO VERBALLY ACCOSTED HER AND HAVING TO CALL YOU GUYS. 
          SO APPRECIATED. 
          I THINK MORE TRANSPARENCY IN THE NOTES FOR EVERYBODY, UM, WOULD MAKE THINGS A LITTLE BIT BETTER. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE JURISDICTION PAST SECOND STREET TO GO INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS PER CONTRACT. 
          WE'RE NOT ABLE TO GO INSIDE OF THE SITE OUTLETS. 
          THAT'S JUST LEGALLY PRIVATE SECURITY. 
          WE HIRED FOR SPECIFIC AREA, WE HAVE JURISDICTION INCLUDING THE PARKING LOT. 
          SO THE PUB, THE PUBLIC. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO THAT'S PART OF THE SECOND STREET. 
          ALONG THE OTHER WAY THOSE GUESTS GO INTO NEIGHBORHOODS ON THE SIDE STREETS, WE HAVE JURISDICTION, BUT IF YOU SEE SOMETHING, WE RESPOND QUICKLY BY CALLING THE PD. 
          CORRECT. 
          WE SEE SOMETHING LIVES ON THE GROUND. 
          PREVENTION IS VERY IMPORTANT AND I'M BEHIND YOU GUYS. 
          HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          YEP. 
          ONE THING, MITCH, WHEN YOU WERE ABOUT BEING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND OUR HANDS BEING TIED, WHAT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL IN MAKES MORALS IS THEY CREATED LITTLE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS, BLOCK CAPTAINS AND SO FORTH. 
          THEY WENT TO BLAIR COHEN, WHO IS OUR BOSS UP THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SAID THESE ARE THE PROBLEMS WE'RE HAVING ON LYNDEN. 
          THESE ARE THE PROBLEMS WE'RE HAVING ON AL. 
          WHAT CAN WE DO TO GET INTO THE PROGRAM, WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND TO WHERE NOW WE CAN GO INTO THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          PRIME EXAMPLE, WHEN COVID BROKE OUT, KATIE TOOK EVERYONE DOWNTOWN NORTH ONLY HAD ONE LONG BEACH UNIT. 
          WE GOT A CALL FROM AL AUSTIN. 
          COUNCILMAN AT THE TIME SAID YOU'RE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT UP THERE. 
          SO WE BARRICADED LONG BEACH OR BARRICADED THE ATLANTIC AND WE WERE PULLING ENFORCEMENT. 
          WE HAVE, WE HAVE JURISDICTION TO DO STUFF WE CAN'T ARREST. 
          WE'RE THAT'S JUST A LOOK OBSERVER REPORT. 
          WE CAN'T ARREST AND WE WILL. 
          OH, I THINK THAT WAS A THAT'S GOOD. 
          YEAH. 
          SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING MOVING DOWN THE ROAD THAT WE BE ABLE TO HELP YOU. 
          I THINK WE NEED THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THAT'S VERY HELPFUL. 
          AND PERHAPS ASSOCIATION VERY STRONG. 
          DO YOU THINK, BRIAN, WE COULD PERHAPS HAVE THESE UH, CSI COME BACK AND GIVE US A BETTER PICTURE? 'CAUSE I KNOW WE'RE NOT PREPARED TO DO TODAY, BUT MAKE SURE, JUST TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE SERVICES THAT YOU DO PROVIDE WHEN WE GET THE MORE COMPREHENSIVE REPORT AND THEN JUST LOOK AT HOW YOU DO THESE THINGS IF YOU DID, BECAUSE I WAS UNAWARE OF THAT. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND HE COULD REACH OUT TO THE VENDOR ONCE WE GET BACK TO THE OFFICE AND SEE IF WE COULD ADD YOUR BOARD JUST ONE PERSON TO YOUR BOARD TO HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE LIVE REPORTS. 
          BECAUSE THOSE ARE CUT AND PASTE. 
          HE'S JUST GETTING THOSE FROM THE VENDORS AND THEY'RE JUST TAKING SCREENSHOTS OF EVERYTHING AND PUTTING IT INTO A FORM AND SENDING IT OVER. 
          SO YOU'LL HAVE REAL INFORMATION. 
          UHHUH TO TIMESTAMP. 
          WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO CHANGE ANYTHING. 
          THAT'S WHY WE DON'T WANT, WE'D LIKE THE SYSTEM BECAUSE IT'S HANDS UP FOR US. 
          YES. 
          WELL, EXCELLENT. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? NO. 
          CALL FOR VOTE. 
          COMMISSIONER CLA AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER ZA AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER DUNCAN. 
          AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER JENSEN? AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER MILLER AYE. 
          AND CHAIR CASTRO. 
          AYE MS. KERRY? ALRIGHT NEXT. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE THIS ALONG HERE BECAUSE THIS IS A LONGER MEETING TODAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, VERY MUCH. 
          WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANKS. 
          THANK, APPRECIATE SPENDING RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A LONG BEACH TRANSIT EMPLOYEE BUS PASS PROGRAM FOR SEPTEMBER, 2026. 
          COMMISSIONERS. 
          CAN I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THIS ITEM? MOTION COZA. 
          I CAN SECOND IT. 
          OKAY. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND MAY WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION RIGHT? UM, THE, WE HAD AN ITEM NUMBER FIVE. 
          YES, THAT'S OKAY. 
          WE HAD AN ITEM FOR ITEM. 
          SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO WITHDRAW? WOULD YOU LIKE TO WITHDRAW THE ITEM? UM, THE BLOCK BY BLOCK DISCUSSION. 
          UM, THAT WE HAD TO LEAVE DUE TO THE TIME WE WENT OVER, BUT UM, WE CAN ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'LL BRING IT BACK INTO NOVEMBER MEETING. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          DISCUSS IT TO, IT'S JUST TO DISCUSS UPDATES ON, OR, YOU KNOW, NOT CONSERVATION BLOCK BY BLOCK AND, OKAY. 
          I'VE BEEN VERY HAPPY WITH THEM. 
          THEY'VE BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB ON MY PROPERTY AND MY 
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AREA. 
          SO WHILE WE STILL CONTINUE TO HAVE MAJOR PROBLEMS WITH THE PANAMA RESIDENTS OF RAISING HELL AND LEAVING TRASH ALL OVER THE AREA, UM, IF, IF THE ITEMS IS BEING DISCUSSED AT , WHY IS HE COMING TO DO THAT? I'M SORRY, YOUR, IT'S NOT YOUR TIME ANYWAY, SO TO FINISH MY COMMENT, I THINK THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB AND UH, I LOOK FORWARD TO THEIR, UH, UPDATE NEXT TIME. 
          PRESENT. 
          YEAH. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THERE'S NO YEAH, NO ACTION ITEM. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WITHDRAWING THAT AS AN ITEM, AS AN ACTION ITEM. 
          BUT THERE WAS A COMMENT. 
          WOULD YOU LIKE TO LAY IT OVER TO THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING? YES, MAY, MAY WE LAY THAT OVER TO THE NEXT OF COURSE, WE'LL TAKE, UH, A MOTION AND A SECOND TO LAY IT OVER TO THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING. 
          OKAY. 
          MAY I GET A MOTION? MOTION COMES UP A SECOND. 
          UH, THAT'S IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT LETTING IT OVER TO THE NEXT NO, I'M NOT. 
          WE CAN TAKE FROM THE COMMENT ON THAT, LETTING IT OVER TO THE NEXT MEETING NOW IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, CERTAINLY. 
          ANY ANY FROM THE COMMENT? UH, I CAME PREPARED TO SPEAK ABOUT THE ITEM BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME DATA POINTS THAT WERE RELEVANT, BUT, UM, APPARENTLY TIME IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT ON THIS ISSUE AND COMMISSIONERS GET TO COMMENT WITHOUT HAVING PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          SO I'M GONNA MAKE THAT MY COMMENT AND SAY IT'S INAPPROPRIATE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYONE ELSE REPORT, COMMENT. 
          THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM FIVE. 
          CALL FOR THE VOTE. 
          AND OH, COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENT ABOUT THE OKAY, PLEASE CALL FOR THE VOTE. 
          COMMISSIONER CLAIRE. 
          COMMISSIONER ZA AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER DUNCAN. 
          AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER JENSEN? AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER MILLER. 
          AYE. 
          CHAIR CASTRO. 
          AYE. 
          MOTION IS CARRIED AS AMEN. 
          AND I'LL GO BACK AGAIN UNDER, WE HAD A MOTION TO SECOND ON, ON THE TABLE FOR, UH, LONG BEACH TRANSIT EMPLOYEE BUS PASS PROGRAM FOR SEPTEMBER, 2026. 
          WE HAD, DID WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND ALREADY THEN? OR DO WE NEED TO DO THAT AGAIN FOR THE BUS PASS? UM, IF WE'RE TAKING THIS NEW ITEM, THEN WE HAVE THAT MOTION. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ITEM SIX, MAY I GET A MOTION AND A SECOND TO RECEIVE MOTION COSAR SECOND RYAN, GOING HAVE THE PRESENTATION. 
          EVERYONE PLEASE TURN TO PAGE 37 TO THE PSBA SUMMARY. 
          I BRING MY GLASSES EVERY TIME SO I CAN READ . 
          SO THIS IS A SUMMARY OF THE BELMONT CHORE BUS PASS PROGRAM. 
          BELMONT CHORE BUS PROGRAM ALLOWS PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THE BEAUMONT CHORE AREA FREE, UM, PUBLIC TRANSIT TO AND FROM WORK. 
          AND SO THIS IS A SUMMARY ON RIDER SHIPS, UNIQUE CARDS, ACTIVE BUSINESSES THAT OCCUR FOR THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER. 
          SO DURING THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER, WE HAD SEVEN THOU 7,316 RIDES. 
          UM, THAT'S A INCREASE OF 11% VERSUS LAST SEPTEMBER, SEPTEMBER, 2025. 
          AND THEN UNIQUE CARDS, WE HAVE 261 UNIQUE CARDS THAT IS UP FROM THE SAME TIME LAST YEAR, ABOUT 32%. 
          WE HAVE 73 ACTIVE BUSINESSES ALSO UP 12%. 
          AND SO WE'RE SEEING AN UPPER TREND TREND ON RIDERSHIP AND USAGE. 
          UM, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE THERE SHOWS A RIDERSHIP TREND, SHOWS A LITTLE CHART SHOWING OUR CHANGE IN OUR RIDERSHIP OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AS OF RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT SEVEN, 7,000 RIDER SHIPS. 
          THAT MEANS THAT SOMEONE HAS USED THEIR CARD OVER, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE USED THEIR CARD OVER 7,000 TIMES. 
          UM, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, THE HIGHEST WE'VE BEEN IN TERMS OF RIDERSHIP SO FAR. 
          NOW, UM, THE NEXT PAGE SHOWS THE UNIQUE CARDS THAT HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE. 
          UM, THESE ARE THE NUMBER OF CARDS THAT PEOPLE HAVE IN THE SHORE. 
          UM, WE ARE UP TO 261 AND THEN THE NEXT PAGE AFTER THAT SHOWS THE RIDES PER BUSINESS FOR THAT MONTH. 
          OH, WOW. 
          SO THIS SHOWS THE RIGHTS FOR BUSINESS FOR SEPTEMBER. 
          I KNOW LAST TIME THIS IS A NEW, UM, THIS IS A NEW REPORTING SYSTEM FROM LONG BEACH TRANSIT THAT WAS PROVIDED FOR US. 
          SO LAST YEAR, OR APOLOGIES LAST MONTH, WE HAD SOME DUPLICATES IN HERE. 
          UM, WE WORKED WITH LONG BEACH TRANSIT TO TRY AND CHANGE THAT. 
          UM, BELMONT, FOR EXAMPLE, BELMONT ATHLETIC CLUB IS NOW ONE NAME ON THERE. 
          AND WE'VE GOT ONE NAME FOR DOO. 
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SO HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY THIS LOOKS A LOT BETTER. 
          UM, BUT IT SHOWS RIDER PER BUSINESS FOR EACH, FOR THAT MONTH. 
          AND THEN IN THE NEXT PAGE IT SHOWS THE UNI CARDS PER BUSINESS. 
          THAT'S AWESOME. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN THIS, UM, FOR FURTHER, YOU KNOW, FOR FURTHER BACKSTORY, THIS IS A AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND, AND LONG BEACH TRANSIT. 
          THIS ITEM, UM, THIS CONTRACT ENDS DECEMBER 31ST, BUT WE HAVE THE OPTION TO EXTEND IT FOR TWO YEARS. 
          SO WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF EXTENDING IT ANOTHER YEAR. 
          UM, BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO KEEP THIS GOING. 
          THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A FEW YEARS NOW. 
          WE'VE SEEN AN UPWARD TREND IN PEOPLE USING THIS. 
          AND THE MORE WE HAVE IT, THE MORE PEOPLE WILL HAVE ACCESS. 
          THE LONGER WE HAVE IT, THE MORE PEOPLE WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THIS. 
          OKAY. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY, DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION? YEAH, COMMISSIONERS DO, DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? JUST LIKE TO SEE IT. 
          I KNOW SEVERAL OF MY EMPLOYEES USE IT AND IF FEW OF THEIR CARDS ARE COMING HERE, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING. 
          IT'S OKAY. 
          UM, I'LL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM SIX, PLEASE RAISE HAND. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, I REALLY WANT THANK FOR PUTTING THIS DATA TOGETHER. 
          IT'S BEEN A LONG SPOT AND I THINK THE NEW REPORTING MECHANISMS AND DETAIL PROVIDED INSIGHT THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD BEFORE, UH, REQUEST ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY IS THAT THE ONE COMPONENTS MISSING THE DATA, THE POPULATION EMPLOYEES THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE USING THE, SO THE NUMBER OF BUSINESSES AND HOW MANY EMPLOYEES THEY HAVE AND WHAT PROPORTION THIS REPRESENTS IN ORDER BE MEANINGFUL. 
          RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST SHOWING TRENDS OF IT'S GOOD, BETTER BUT CONTRAST. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR PROCESS SO FAR. 
          TAKE THE NEXT STEP PLEASE. 
          GOOD POINT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYONE ELSE? SAY NONE. 
          THAT CONCLUDES FURTHER. 
          ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION AMONG COMMISSIONERS SEEING NONE. 
          COURT, PLEASE CALL FOR THE VOTE. 
          COMMISSIONER CLAIRE. 
          COMMISSIONER ZA AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER DUNCAN. 
          AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER JENSEN? AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER MILLER AYE. 
          AND JUROR CASTRO. 
          AYE. 
          MOTION IS CARRIED. 
          RIGHT. 
          MOVING TO THE NEXT ITEM. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE LAST, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE LONG BEACH PUBLIC WORKS FINANCIAL REPORT DISCUSSING REVENUES DURING THE PERIOD ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2026, WHICH IS THE FISCAL YEAR. 
          AND IS THAT NOT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          MOTION RO PLEASE. 
          UH, AND SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          THOSE ARE OKAY. 
          MAY WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION? YEP. 
          IF WE CAN PLEASE TURN TO PAGE 43 TITLED THE  30 METER FROM THE SUMMARY AS OF 9 30 20 26. 
          UM, THIS IS TO DISCUSS REVENUES FOR SEPTEMBER 30TH. 
          UM, I JUST WANT TO QUICK, SINCE WE HAVE SOME NEW COMMISSIONERS, JUST WANT TO GO OVER THE, UM, PURPOSE REAL QUICK. 
          THE, THIS IS REVENUES THAT GO INTO THE BELMONT PARKING METER FUND. 
          THE BELMONT PARKING METER FUND WAS ESTABLISHED BY CITY COUNCIL ORDINANCE C DASH 6 2 1 9 TO RECEIVE PARKING REVENUES IN THE BELMONT AREA. 
          EXPENDITURES FOR THIS FUND PER THE ORDINANCE, ZERO EIGHT DASH 0 0 2, ARE LIMITED TO USES, WHICH ARE FOR THE, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC SHORE OR FOR THE PUBLIC SHORE, FOR THE BELMONT SHORE PARKING AND BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT AREA ONLY. 
          SO THIS INCLUDES LIKE ACQUISITION, CONSTRUCTION, IMPROVEMENT OPERATION OR MAINTENANCE OF CITY PARKING FACILITIES, FIXTURES, AND EQUIPMENT, AS WELL AS IMPROVEMENTS TO AND EQUIPMENT FOR PUBLIC STREETS, ALLEYS, CURBS, GUTTERS, AND SIDEWALKS, AND THE BUS PASS PROGRAM. 
          UM, REVENUE IN THIS FUND IS EXCLUSIVELY FROM PARKING METER FEES IN THE BELMONT SHORE AREA OF THE CITY. 
          THE FIRST $200,000 IN PARKING METER REVENUE IS PLEDGED TO REPAY DEBT SERVICE AND ASSOCIATED COSTS IN THE COMMUNITY FACILITIES DISTRICT 2007 DASH TWO IN THE BELMONT SHORE AREA FOR SEPTEMBER, 2026. 
          WE ARE LOOKING AT REVENUE OF 130,000. 
          THAT IS UP 6% VERSUS THIS LAST TIME IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR. 
          OUR YEAR TO DATE 
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REVENUE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 IS ONE THOUSAND ONE MILLION EIGHT HUNDRED ONE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED FORTY AND 72 CENTS. 
          THE REVENUES FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ARE UP 36% FROM LAST FISCAL YEAR. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN REVENUES FROM 2025 TO 2026 HAVE BEEN FROM AN INCREASE TO THE PARKING METER FEES IN 2020 FY 2025, WE HAD HAD, UM, A RATE OF $2 PER HOUR. 
          AND IN FY 26 WE HAD A RATE OF $3 PER HOUR, WHICH WOULD SHOW THE DIFFERENCE IN THE REVENUES BY 36%. 
          UM, IF EVERYONE CAN PLEASE MOVE TO THE NEXT PAGE. 
          TITLE,  PARKING AND BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT AREA ADVISORY COMMISSION FY 2026. 
          BUDGET. 
          THE CITY HAS A FISCAL YEAR THAT ENDS IN SEPTEMBER 30TH. 
          AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE ARE, UM, WE JUST ENDED FISCAL YEAR 2026 AND AS OF OCTOBER 1ST, WE ARE NOW ON FISCAL YEAR 2027. 
          UM, SO THESE ITEMS WILL BE UPDATED AT THE NEXT MEETING. 
          UM, BUT FOR HERE YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATED BUDGET FROM WHAT WE HAVE VERSUS LAST FISCAL YEAR. 
          FISCAL YEAR 2025, WE HAD REVENUES OF 1.3 MILLION. 
          FISCAL YEAR 2026. 
          WE HAVE, UM, REVENUES OF ABOUT 1.8 MILLION, AND THAT IS DUE TO THE, YOU KNOW, THE INCREASE FROM TWO TO $3. 
          OUR EXPENDITURES HAVE, OUR ESTIMATED EXPENDITURES ARE GONNA BE ABOUT 1.3 MILLION. 
          UM, IN FY 25, WE ENDED IN A, UM, WE ENDED IN A NET NEGATIVE IN TERMS OF REVENUE VERSUS EXPENDITURES. 
          AFTER HAVING A CONVERSATION IN SEPTEMBER OF 2025, IT WAS DISCUSSED THAT WE WOULD INCREASE THE PARKING METER RATE FROM TWO TO $3. 
          AND NOW AS A RESULT, WE HAVE HAD, WE'RE PROJECTED TO HAVE A SURPLUS OF ABOUT $438. 
          HOWEVER, THIS IS STILL ESTIMATED BUDGET. 
          THESE ARE NOT THE FINAL NUMBERS. 
          UM, WE STILL HAVE A COUPLE OF MORE MONTHS OF YEAR END CLOSING WITH OUR FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT TEAM AND THE VARIOUS BUREAUS THAT ARE WITHIN THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, ONCE THE YEAR IS FINALLY CLOSED AND OFFICIAL, WE WILL BRING BACK THE FINAL NUMBERS, BUT THIS IS A PRETTY, THIS IS A, THIS IS AN ESTIMATED, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ESTIMATED ON WHAT WE'RE GONNA SEE. 
          WE'RE ESTIMATED TO HAVE A SURPLUS OF 438,000, WHICH BRINGS OUR END OF THE YEAR PROJECTED FUND BALANCE AS OF 9 30 20 26 AS 759,000. 
          HOWEVER, ON OCTOBER 1ST OF EVERY YEAR, WE HAVE TO PAY DOWN THAT DEBT SERVICE, THAT $200,000. 
          AND SO WE'VE INCLUDED THAT IN HERE. 
          AND AS OUR, OUR, OUR ESTIMATED PHONE BALANCE AS OF 10, ONE IS SUPPO, UM, GOING TO BE $559,323. 
          WE HAVE INCLUDED THE, UM, PREVIOUS DISCUSSION OF UTILITY BOX ART REPAIR THAT WAS COMPLETED IN SEPTEMBER. 
          UM, SO THAT IS INCLUDED IN HERE. 
          THE E CAMM TRAILER EXPENSE IS INCLUDED IN HERE DUE TO, UM, JUST TO SEE HOW THAT WOULD AFFECT THE BUDGET. 
          MM. 
          UM, WE WERE, THE E CAMM TRAILER PROGRAM IS GOING TO BE FOR ABOUT SIX MONTHS FOR TWO, TWO TRAILERS, AND IT IS AROUND, GONNA BE AROUND 20,000, PROBABLY 21 TO 22. 
          UM, WE'VE INCLUDED THAT AS A PLACEHOLDER TO SEE HOW THAT AFFECTS FUTURE BUDGETS. 
          UM, YOU CAN SEE A DIFFERENCE HERE. 
          PRESSURE WASHING IN FY 2025, UM, IS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE WAS 95,000. 
          WE SPENT 95,000 IN PRESSURE WASHING, AND THEN WE SPENT 30,000 THIS YEAR. 
          AND THIS IS BECAUSE WE HAD, UM, DURING HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR, WE HAD AN RFP FOR NEW SERVICES FOR A CLEAN TEAM. 
          AND PREVIOUSLY WE HAD CLEAN TEAM THAT STRICTLY DID CLEANING AND PICKING UP A TRASH IN THAT AREA. 
          AND THEN WE HAD A SEPARATE VENDOR FOR POWER WASHING. 
          UM, AND SO WITH THIS NEW RFP FOR THE CLEAN TEAM, THE CLEAN TEAM HAS COMBINED THEIR SERVICES FROM CLEANING AND POWER WASHING. 
          AND SO EVEN THOUGH THERE'S, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S A REDUCTION IN EXPENSES FOR PRESSURE WASHING, THAT'S KIND OF BEEN ABSORBED INTO THE CLEANING SERVICES LINE ITEM JUST BECAUSE IT'S ALL TOGETHER. 
          IT'S ALL, IT'S STILL NOT NEARLY THE THING IF YOU ADD UP THE CLEANING AND PRESSURE WASHING FROM 2025 MM-HMM . 
          YOU END UP AT 5 22 AND HERE YOU'RE AT 4 75. 
          YEAH. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO IT ENDED UP WORKING AT, IT ENDED UP WORKING OUT A LITTLE BIT BETTER TO HAVE IT, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE AN RP FOR A CLEAN SERVICE BECAUSE TO GO BACK AND GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTEXT, WE ORIGINALLY HAD CONSERVATION CORD DO THE CLEANING IN THE AREA, AND SO THEY WOULD, YOU KNOW, CLEAN AND, AND PROVIDE ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL SERVICE THAT WAS NEEDED. 
          HOWEVER, DUE TO, UM, 
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COVID AND A COUPLE OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES, THE FUNDING FOR, FOR THEM, YOU KNOW, FELL THROUGH AND THEY HAD EXPLAINED TO US, YOU KNOW, OUR, THEY'VE BEEN GIVING US PRETTY MUCH A DISCOUNT TO, TO WORK ALONG THE SHORE. 
          AND THEY SAID IN ORDER TO, YOU KNOW, KEEP THE, KEEP THE SERVICES AS THEY WERE, THEY'D HAVE TO CHARGE MARKET RATE. 
          AND SO THE COMMISSION SAID, WELL, IF WE HAVE TO GO MARKET RATE, WE SHOULD GO AND DO AN RFP AND SEE WHAT EVERYONE, YOU KNOW, ANYONE WHO WANTS TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS, WE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS SCANNED. 
          AND SO, UM, PUBLIC WORKS MOVED FORWARD WITH THAT AND SAW THAT THE MARKET RATE FOR CLEANING IN THE AREA FOR WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS ABOUT THREE TIMES MORE THAN WHAT WE'VE BEEN USUALLY PAYING. 
          AND SO, AS YOU CAN SEE, AS A RESULT, THAT LED TO A, YOU KNOW, A NET NEGATIVE IN OUR EXPENSES FOR LAST YEAR BECAUSE WE REALIZED, OH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE THIS CLEANING SERVICE, BUT OUR BILL HAS GONE UP THREE TIMES. 
          SO WE NOW HAVE TO FIGURE OUT DO WE REDUCE CLEANING SERVICES OR DO WE KEEP SERVICES AND AGREE TO, YOU KNOW, AGREE TO INCREASE OUR METER RATES TO OFFSET THAT KIND OF OFF OFFSET THE EXPENSE. 
          AND THAT'S MAINLY THE, THE REAL ONES HERE. 
          MOST OF THE, UM, LIKE OUR DEBT SERVICE REMAINS THE SAME. 
          OUR OFFICE EXPENSE, OUR LIABILITIES, PUBLIC SERVICE FUNDS ARE USUALLY PRETTY, UM, USUALLY PRETTY CONSISTENT. 
          AGAIN, THESE ARE ESTIMATES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BUT OUR, BUT OUR BIG ONES ARE BIG EXPENSES ARE THE CLEANING SERVICES, THE SECURITY AND THE PRESSURE WASHING THAT, THAT COMES WITH IT. 
          I WITH BANK FEES, BUT THOSE ARE FEES THAT WE, THAT THE COMMISSION CAN'T CHANGE OR DOING THAT. 
          SO. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY, ANY CLARIFICATION? I, I DO JUST HAVE MORE CLARIFICATION FOR YOU, RYAN. 
          SO OBVIOUSLY FISCAL YEAR 26 IS, YOU KNOW, GREATER THAN FISCAL YEAR 27 OR 25. 
          YEAH. 
          AND YOU MENTIONED THAT, UM, YOU THINK IT'S ALL DUE TO A THREE HOUR, THE $3 PER HOUR RATE MM-HMM . 
          UM, ARE YOU GUYS TRACKING IF WE'RE ACTUALLY HAVING MORE VISITORS OR LESS VISITORS OR NUMBER OF VISITORS USING THE METERS? IS THERE ANY TALK ABOUT THAT? I CAN ASK OUR PARKING OFFICER IF THEY HAVE, IF THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS. 
          BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, NO, WE DON'T. 
          WE JUST HAVE LIKE THE NUMBER, THE REVENUE THAT'S BEEN RECEIVED. 
          YEAH. 
          NOT BY A NUMBER OF PARKING. 
          I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW, ARE WE HAVING MORE PEOPLE OR LESS PEOPLE? IS IT THE SAME AND IT REALLY IS JUST THAT DOLLAR AN HOUR? YEAH. 
          WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT  BECAUSE I'M THINKING LIKE, HEY, I WANNA SPEND SOME MONEY TO MAKE IT LOOK PRETTIER. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT IF, IF OUR, YOU KNOW, VISITORS ARE GOING DOWN, THAT MAY NOT BE A GOOD USE OF OUR CLIENTS. 
          EXACTLY. 
          WELL, WHAT ABOUT THE MONTHS THOUGH? CAN'T YOU JUST, IT, IT DID. 
          I THOUGHT WE SAW A CHART BEFORE OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE PEAKS AND VALLEYS OF 'CAUSE MONEY. 
          IT'S HIGHER, YOU KNOW, IN DIFF DIFFERENT SEASONS, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE REVENUES, IF YOU LOOK AT THE REVENUE TRENDS. 
          OH YES. 
          SO THEN THAT TELLS YOU SOMETHING ABOUT THE NUMBER OF VISITORS AND HOW, HOW OFTEN IT TURNS OVER. 
          RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          I WAS JUST THINKING SEPTEMBER TO SEPTEMBER, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE USING SORT OF MONTH TO MONTH, WE, WE WENT UP IN 26 OVER 25 BY ABOUT $7,000 OR SIX IN CHANGE. 
          BUT I WONDERED IF IT WAS ACTUALLY JUST THE DOLLAR OR ARE WE SEEING MORE OR LESS VISITORS? YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WONDERING ABOUT ACTIVITY. 
          YEAH. 
          WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE THAT ON HAND, BUT MAYBE I CAN ASK FOR PARKING OFFICER, THEY HAVE THAT WONDER IF THEY INCREASE IN FEES, SCARE PEOPLE OFF, OR ARE THEY JUST PUBLIC PARKING IN, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD MORE? AWESOME. 
          BUT IN TERMS OF, IN TERMS OF TRENDS, IT'S KIND OF LIKE WITH, IT'S KIND OF LIKE WITH ANY, EVERYWHERE IN THE WINTER YOU'LL SEE LESS REVENUE AND IN THE SUMMER WE'LL SEE THE MOST. 
          SO NOW THAT WE'RE GOING INTO OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, THERE'LL BE A SLIGHT DECREASE, BUT WE'LL SEE A LOT MORE CONSISTENT, UM, COMPARISONS BECAUSE THIS IS THE SECOND YEAR THAT WE'VE HAD THE $3 PER HOUR. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO I'LL BE VERY INTERESTED TO SEE HOW OCTOBER GOES IN TERMS OF WHAT OUR REVENUE WILL BE AND IF WE'RE UP OR DOWN IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE NET CHANGE. 
          'CAUSE THAT'LL BE A MORE CONSISTENT LOOK. 
          BUT AGAIN, THAT'S ONLY ONE MONTH OF THE NEW FISCAL YEAR. 
          SO WE'LL DO MY BEST TO PROJECT WHAT WE'LL, WHAT WE'LL HAVE BASED ON THAT. 
          BUT IT'LL BE AN ESTIMATE FOR SURE. 
          AND I THINK IF IT, WHEN WE MADE THE ASSUMPTION TO MAKE THE INCREASE, FIRST OF ALL, WE COULDN'T CONTINUE AT A DEFICIT BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO OPERATE. 
          WELL THAT WASN'T MY CONCERN, THAT THE DOLLAR WAS SCARING PEOPLE AWAY. 
          I, I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE SOMETHING FOR NEXT MONTH, BUT I'M JUST KIND OF WONDERING IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE ACTIVITY OR NOT. 
          RIGHT. 
          I DON'T WANNA SPEND MONEY THAT'S NOT GONNA COME IN THAT THAT WASN'T WHAT I WAS GOING OH, OKAY. 
          SORRY. 
          WE WERE, WE WERE, WE WERE EXPECTING TO HAVE, IF EVERYTHING STAYED STATIC, THAT WE WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, ENOUGH IN RESERVE STAFF, EVEN IF WE DIDN'T GO UP, YOU KNOW, AND INCREASE VISITORSHIP OR WHATEVER VISITORS, THAT WE WOULD AT LEAST HAVE A PROJECTED AMOUNT THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO AT LEAST SAFELY HAVE A CUSHION THERE. 
          RIGHT. 
          OR THEN WHEN WE HAVE NEW IDEAS OR SOMETHING COMES UP, YOU KNOW, WE CAN COVER, COVER THE COST. 
          'CAUSE WE CAN'T AFFORD TO OPERATE IN A DEFICIT. 
          SO THAT'S IT. 
          IT'S THE TWO THINGS. 
          BUT OF COURSE 
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AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE OLYMPICS OR OTHER KINDS OF, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS YEAR IT COULD BE, UH, DIFFERENT TOO BECAUSE WE HAD, UH, THE WORLD CUP AND WE HAD A LOT OF ACTIVITY DOWN HERE. 
          I'VE NEVER SEEN THE SECOND STREET SO BUSY. 
          IT WAS REALLY EXCITING. 
          BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF, PROBABLY A LOT OF TURNOVER OF, OF METERS, MAYBE MORE THAN USUAL TOO. 
          SO WE MIGHT SEE A SPIKE FROM THIS YEAR THAT MIGHT NOT BE IN 27, BUT THAT WOULD COME BACK IN 28. 
          SO IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT WE'VE GOT. 
          SO, GOOD QUESTION AND COMING. 
          THAT'S GONNA REALLY BE, AND THEN I, I ALSO JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE AS WELL, LIKE WE, WE SHOULD ALWAYS PLAN TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST ENOUGH TO PAY OUR DEBT SERVICE. 
          YEAH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BECAUSE THAT'S A BIG BILL AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY YEAR, YOU KNOW, WE'LL MAKE IT BACK OVER, OVER THE COURSE OF THE 12 MONTHS. 
          BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE, WE WILL NEED IMMEDIATELY, WHICH IS WHY SHOWING IT AND SEEING THAT HUGE CHUNK GO AWAY AT THE END, YOU KNOW, PUTS A LITTLE BIT INTO PERSPECTIVE TO KNOW THAT WHAT WE KIND OF HAVE TO OPERATE KIND OF HAVE TO OPERATE THIS WAY. 
          OTHERWISE WE'LL BE EATING INTO THE FUND WAY FASTER THAN ANTICIPATED. 
          THIS IS YEAH. 
          AND RIGHT. 
          I MEAN, WELL, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT IN DISCUSSION. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE STILL IN CLARIFICATION ABOUT, RIGHT. 
          SO WE, OKAY. 
          I THINK, ARE WE READY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM SEVEN, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. 
          UM, I STRONGLY URGE THE COMMISSION TO INCREASE THE FREQUENCY OF THE CLEANING. 
          I MOVED TO BELMONT SHORE WHEN THE SIDEWALKS WERE PRISTINE AND THE STREETS SMELLED GOOD AND IT WAS WONDERFUL. 
          UM, IT, YOU'RE USED TO BE SOMEBODY CLEANING ALMOST EVERY MORNING AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO GET BACK TO A CLEAN SECOND STREET. 
          OKAY. 
          MAYBE THE, THE INCREASE THE FREQUENCY AND MAYBE EVEN THE SCOPE OF WHAT CAN BE DONE. 
          AND SECONDARILY, I'VE RUN SEVERAL PROFIT AND LOSS STATEMENTS IN MY CAREER. 
          HAVING MONEY UNACCOUNTED FOR IS AN INVITATION FOR THAT MONEY TO BE TAKEN AWAY. 
          PLEASE USE THAT MONEY FOR INCREASED CLEANING, MAYBE IMPROVING THE LANDSCAPING. 
          IF BEAUTIFYING SECOND STREET IS YOUR CHARGE, PLEASE DO SO WITH VI. 
          ANYONE ELSE? YES. 
          UH, I SWEAR I DIDN'T PLAN TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM , BUT COMMISSIONER JENSEN RAISES A QUESTION THAT I CAN ANSWER AT LEAST WITH FIRSTHAND OBSERVATION, WHICH IS THAT, WHERE ARE PEOPLE PARKING? UH, I DON'T LIVE IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA. 
          I WALK HERE OR COME HERE TO OTHER PLACES AND I PARK HERE AND I VISIT BIG PEOPLE. 
          I WILL SAY THAT ANY GIVEN WEEKEND ANECDOTALLY, AND MY FIRSTHAND OBSERVATION IS THAT PEOPLE WILL TAKE EVERY METER INCREASE AND MOVE FURTHER DOWN TO THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY ON EVERY TURN. 
          WE SEE IT WITH PEOPLE WITH JERSEYS AND HATS COMING FOR SPORTS BARS ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY, ARRIVING ANYWHERE BETWEEN NINE AND 10 IN THE MORNING AND GOING TO STAY HERE ALL DAY. 
          THEY WILL NOT USE A METER. 
          THEY WILL INSTEAD TAKE UP OUR SIDE STREETS, DROP THEIR DEBRIS VOMIT IN OUR SIDEWALKS AND OUR ROUTINELY. 
          AND THAT IS THE IMPACT OF WHAT DECISIONS HERE IMPACT TWO FEET, 20 FEET, 30 FEET DOWN THE ROAD. 
          YOU ARE NOT ADDRESSING THAT. 
          YOUR SCOPE DOES NOT ALLOW YOU TO ADDRESS THAT. 
          BUT YOU CAN BE SMART ABOUT HOW TO DO THAT. 
          AND YOU NEED TO GATHER SOME DATA. 
          I THINK THIS BODY AND INDIVIDUAL SHOULD BE ASKING FOR WHAT ARE THE METERS FREQUENCY, WHAT IS THE AMOUNT OF VOLUME GOING THROUGH ON CERTAIN PERIODS OF TIME? ALL THOSE ARE TRACKABLE DATA. 
          AND WITH THE NEW OPTIONS THAT ARE GOING TO ELIMINATE SPECIFIC METERS, EVEN MORE GRANULAR, THERE'S A DATA POINT AROUND THAT. 
          SO PLEASE ASK FOR THAT. 
          USE IT, ELEVATE IT SO THAT YOU ARE AWARE OF THE IMPACTS TO OUR COMMUNITY EVEN THOUGH IT'S PERIPHERAL TO THE CORE SCOPE OF THIS, YOU CAN HAVE A, A BIG DIFFERENCE ON THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYONE ELSE? SEEING NONE. 
          THAT CAN BE GOOD DISCUSSION. 
          YES, I DO. 
          I WOULD LIKE NEXT MONTH. 
          I KNOW I FEEL BAD PUTTING HER ON THE SPOT 'CAUSE SHE'S NOT HERE. 
          BUT I WOULD LOVE IT IF HEATHER IN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO COULD COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS. 
          SHE HAS TONS OF IDEAS OF WAYS TO MAKE SECOND STREET MORE BEAUTIFUL. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THOSE ARE. 
          OBVIOUSLY WE'VE HEARD FROM ELLA AND MORE CLEANING WOULD BE SOMETHING SHE WOULD LIKE. 
          MAYBE WE COULD OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC WITH, YOU KNOW, IDEAS THAT THEY HAVE OF WAYS THAT WE CAN ENHANCE THE SECOND STREET. 
          'CAUSE I'M STILL OF THE BELIEF, WHICH I MENTIONED LAST MONTH, THAT IF WE HAVE A MORE BEAUTIFUL STREET, I THINK IT INVITES PEOPLE TO TREAT IT WITH MORE RESPECT. 
          AND I AM NOT ONE TO SPEND NEEDLESSLY. 
          'CAUSE I THINK YOU HAVE A PLAN FOR A RAINY DAY AND YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. 
          MAYBE WE HAVE LESS VISITORS, WE DON'T HAVE MONEY. 
          WE, WE DO HAVE EXPENSES WE HAVE TO COVER. 
          BUT I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN AT LEAST EXPLORING AND PUTTING ON THE AGENDA SOME WAYS THAT WE CAN MAKE OUR STREET MORE BEAUTIFUL. 
          [02:15:01]
ANYTHING ELSE? I AGREE WITH YOUR COMMENT. 
          WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO YOU KEEP THIS  SHORT. 
          WE HAVE MAJOR PROBLEMS WITH TRASH AND PEOPLE VOMITING IN THE STORES OR AROUND THE STORES AND HOW MUCH IS THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE BARS. 
          AND SO IT IS JUST, IT IS AN ISSUE. 
          IT NEEDS TO GET RESOLVED AND CLEANING, BUT IT'S ALSO MAKING IT PRETTY RIGHT. 
          OUR STREET ISN'T OVERLY PRETTY. 
          RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S THE MEDIANS OR THE STOREFRONTS OR THE LOOK LIKE, WHETHER IT'S PLANTS OR LIGHTS OR JUST QUALITY ABOVE. 
          YEAH. 
          JUST MAKING IT LOOK BETTER SO PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO VOMIT ON OUR SIDEWALK. 
          MAYBE. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          I DON'T REALLY THINK MOST OF THE ISSUES ARE DURING THE DAY, BUT IT'S EVEN THROWING TRASH, CROSSING, GUEST RED LIGHTS. 
          RIGHT. 
          IT JUST FEELS LIKE WELL WE'RE THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 
          AND, AND I THINK ALL OF THESE ARE GREAT POINTS AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS BY HAVING THIS, I MEAN WE WEREN'T PLANNING TO NECESSARILY KEEP THIS LEVEL OF SURPLUS, BUT WE HAD TO GO THROUGH ONE FULL, FULL CYCLE OF COURSE TO SEE WHERE THE, THE DOLLARS LANDED. 
          AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING AMONGST OURSELVES. 
          YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY HEATHER HAS IDEAS TOO. 
          WE DO WANT TO DO MORE BEAUTIFICATION. 
          WE WE NEED TO WATER THE MEDIANS MORE FREQUENTLY. 
          JUST SOMETHING THAT SIMPLE, BETTER, YOU KNOW, MAYBE MORE DECORATIVE LIGHTING. 
          DEFINITELY CLEANING IS A HUNDRED PERCENT TOP OF THE LIST. 
          AND WHAT I THOUGHT THAT REALLY BODES WELL FOR WHERE WE'RE AT BUDGET WISE, BECAUSE OUR BUDGET IS, YOU KNOW, FAIRLY FLAT HERE, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF WHAT OUR EXPENDITURES ARE, WHICH MEANS, YOU KNOW, THEY SCOOTED IN E CAM, WE'RE STILL OKAY. 
          WE, WE PROBABLY COULD SCOOT IN SOME MORE CLEANING, YOU KNOW, AND THAT WOULD BE REALLY GREAT. 
          SO WE HAVE TO GET, YOU KNOW, ESTIMATES FOR THAT. 
          WE HAVE TO ASK THE CITY FOR WHAT WE WANT AND IF WE WANT LIGHTING, OTHER KINDS OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, BETTER PLANTS AND MAKE IT DECORATIVE THESE, THAT'S OUR, THAT'S WHERE WE CAN REALLY MAKE AN IMPACT TO. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S EXCITING THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING TO WORK WITH RATHER THAN LOSING MONEY. 
          'CAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S GOING THE WRONG DIRECTION. 
          SO YEAH. 
          UM, I'M JUST WONDERING HOW WE GO ABOUT WHETHER GETTING IDEAS, AND OBVIOUSLY THE PUBLIC HAS THEIR PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT IS THERE SOMETHING WE CAN PUT ON AN AGENDA WHERE WE'RE LIKE, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, COME WITH. 
          IT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE GONNA ENACT AT THIS YEAR. 
          IT MIGHT BE SIX MONTHS A YEAR, BUT I'D LOVE TO HEAR WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY. 
          WELL, WE CAN AGENDIZE THAT AND THE COMMISSIONERS CAN COME IN WITH THEIR IDEAS AND THEN WE CAN HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS. 
          SO THERE'S ALL OF THOSE OPTIONS AND WE COULD TALK TO PEOPLE AS WE WALK DOWN THE STREET AND LISTEN TO IDEAS AND, AND CAN WE PUT HEATHER KERN ON THE SPOT SO THAT SHE GETS A LITTLE MORE THAN THREE MINUTES SINCE? BECAUSE SHE DOES HAVE A TON OF IDEAS ABOUT I WE, I I I'LL HAVE TO WRITE THAT BY RYAN AND YOU. 
          YEAH, WE CAN, COULD SHE BE OUR SPEAKER? WE CAN HAVE HER COME AND DISCUSS AND CERTAINLY TALK ABOUT IT. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SHE HAS TO BE ON THE AGENDA. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ARE WE TELL HER DEBORAH PUT HER ON THE LIST. 
          SHE GOOD WITH EMAILS AS WELL? ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR, OR DISCUSSION OR ARE WE READY TO CALL FOR THE VOTE READY CLERK? SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          COMMISSIONER CLAIRE. 
          COMMISSIONER AZAR. 
          AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER DUNCAN? AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER JENSEN? AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER MILLER AYE. 
          AND CHAIR CLARK. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          CHAIR CASTRO. 
          AYE. 
          MOTION IS CARRIED. 
          PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          AT THIS TIME WE WILL TAKE NON AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS. 
          ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA, PLEASE STAND NOW. 
          UM, I JUST WANNA SAY QUICKLY THAT, UM, WE'RE NOT LEAVING YET, HONEY  THAT, UH, IT SEEMS THAT THERE'S STILL ONLY THREE OF THE FOUR NEWLY APPOINTED COMMISSIONERS, UM, WHO HAVE BEEN, I GUESS, OFFICIALLY ONBOARDED AND, UM, IT'S BEEN FOUR MONTHS BY SINCE JUNE. 
          AND SO IT SEEMS, IF THAT'S AN OPEN SEAT, IT WOULD BE NICE IF THERE WAS SOME TRANSPARENCY ABOUT THAT. 
          UM, I ASSUME THAT I BELIEVE THERE WAS A DEADLINE, YOU KNOW, A WINDOW BY WHICH NEWLY APPOINTED COMMISSIONERS NEED TO BE ONBOARDED. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF A IMPORTANT SEAT BEING A, THAT WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME TRANSPARENCY. 
          UH, ROSS TURNER, UH, RESIDENT HOMEOWNER, I'M RISING TO THE SPELL OF MYTH. 
          UM, EARLIER IN THIS MEETING THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION AROUND THE TABLE ABOUT THE ABOLITION OF THE COMMISSION AND, UM,  CHAIR CASTRO HAD A GREAT SPEECH PRE-WRITTEN FOR THAT, UH, TO REBUT IT 
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AND MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT A FOUR-LEGGED STOOL AND HOW THIS BODY IS A CONDUIT FOR ALL THESE DIFFERENT VOICES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND, UM, I DON'T THINK THERE'S FOUR LEGS, DEB, AND WE REALLY, REALLY DON'T. 
          UM, THIS BODY AND BSBA ARE IN LOCKSTEP CONSTANTLY. 
          THEY SHARE MEMBERS BACK AND FORTH. 
          UM, AND PLEASE, I BEECHING THE HEAVENS STOP CALLING FOGS OF RESIDENTS ASSOCIATION. 
          IT IS A WING OF THE BUSINESS ASSOCIATION. 
          IT'S FUNDED BY THE BUSINESS ASSOCIATION. 
          IT WAS CREATED SO THAT THEY COULD, SO THE RE RESIDENTS COULD HAVE A SEAT ON THIS BODY. 
          IT'S, UH, COMPLETELY BOGUS. 
          UH, AND THAT LEAVES THE BELMONT STORE RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION. 
          UM, YOU'VE GOT SEVERAL PEOPLE HERE WHO ARE ASSOCIATED WITH IT, WHO, UH, LIKE THE IDEA OF THE, UH, ENDING OF THE COMMISSION AND, UM, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A VOICE LIKE THE, THERE'S THE ONE-LEGGED STOOL FOR YOU GUYS AND THERE'S THE ONE-LEGGED END TABLE WITH FOR BSRA THAT JUST KIND OF SITS HERE AND SCREAMS IN THE DARK AND DOESN'T REALLY HAVE, HAS A VOICE SHIRT, BUT HAS NO REAL POWER. 
          AND THE SEAT THAT IS, UH, ON THIS BODY THAT IS, UH, PUT ASIDE FOR THE RESIDENCE, THAT COMMISSIONER IS ALREADY SAID, I DON'T WANT THE CO THAT THE COMMISSION DISSOLVED. 
          SO THAT VOICE IS JUST KIND OF LOST ANYWAY. 
          YOU'RE GETTING PRESSURE FROM RESIDENTS. 
          YOU'RE NOT GETTING PRESSURE FROM THE CITY. 
          IT'S A, IT IS A RECOMMENDATION, UH, THAT, THAT THE COMMISSION BE DISSOLVED. 
          UM, MAYBE INSTEAD OF JUST WAITING OUT THE STORM AND DOING THE THINGS BUSINESS AS USUAL, YOU, YOU COULD DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. 
          YOU COULD CREATE MORE SEATS HERE AND GIVE THEM OVER TO RESIDENTS SO THAT ACTUAL DISCUSSION CAN HAPPEN AT THIS TABLE INSTEAD OF PEOPLE YELLING OVER HERE ON THE DARK. 
          I'M DONE. 
          THANKS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? UH, I'M GONNA DEFINE, UH, UH, NOT RAISE MY VOICE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THESE COMMENTS. 
          I WANT TO PREFACE FIRST BY SAYING THAT I HAVE A HIGH REGARD FOR THE INDIVIDUALS IN THE ROOM ON THE COMMISSION. 
          UH, SOME OF YOU'RE KNOW, WELL, SOME OF 'EM I KNOW VERY MUCH ABOUT YOUR COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND YOUR CONCERN FOR THE GREATER GOOD. 
          THAT IS A LAUDABLE IN EVERY WAY. 
          AND I WANT TO DIFFERENTIATE THAT FROM COMMENTS I MADE PREVIOUSLY AND WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY NOW IN REGARD TO THE BODY OF THIS COMMISSION AND THE ROLES THAT YOU SERVE ON IT. 
          SO IN GENERAL, UM, MOST OF THESE PROBLEMS ARE YOU PROBLEMS OR THEM PROBLEMS, MEANING YOU, THE BODY OR PUBLIC ENTITY OR THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, OR PARTICULARLY THE BARS AND RESTAURANTS THAT SERVE ALCOHOL AND SOURCE THE PROBLEMS. LET THE CITY AND LET THE BARS PAY FOR THEIR AREAS OF RESPONSIBILITY AND IMPACT, UH, THE REST OF THE CITY DOES. 
          WITHOUT THAT, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO CALL POLICE AND USE THE NORMAL CHANNELS OF THINGS. 
          YOU DON'T JUMP TO THE SPECIAL HEAD OF THE LINE BY VIRTUE OF THIS COMMISSION BEING A SPECIAL OWNED ENTITY. 
          IT SHOULDN'T BE THAT WAY. 
          OTHERS HAVE SAID THAT. 
          I WILL ECHO THAT. 
          UH, CONCURRENTLY, YOU, YOU, UH, AS A WHOLE SEEMS AT LEAST THE CHAIR SEEMS TO CLAIM VALUE IN KEEPING DOLLARS OF ADVOCACY HERE. 
          BUT THEN YOU, YOU ADVOCATE THAT ADVOCACY AND RESPONSIBILITY IN ALMOST EVERY RETURN. 
          YOU JUST SAY PASS IT ON TO ENTITIES THAT WILL PAY TO DO IT. 
          IT'S OUTSOURCING, IT'S THEATER. 
          UH, AN AVENUE YOU HAVE, AND IT'S BEEN SUGGESTED BEFORE, BUT NOT TAKEN UP, IS THAT YOU CAN PURSUE LISTENING SESSIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY. 
          YOU CAN SOLICIT ACTIVE FEEDBACK THROUGH MEANINGFUL SURVEYS. 
          THAT'S TYPICALLY NOT DONE. 
          UH, SOME PROCEDURAL THINGS. 
          UM, THIS BODY HAS ESSENTIALLY MET THREE TIMES IN THE ENTIRE YEAR OF 2026. 
          SOME OF YOU ARE VERY NEW. 
          I DON'T THANK YOU FOR THE PAST PROBLEMS THAT HAVE OCCURRED WITH THAT. 
          BUT THIS IS NOT AN ENGAGED BODY WITH THE COMMUNITY BY REFLECTION OF THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT MEETS. 
          EVEN IN THE PAST YEARS, IT'S TYPICALLY MET ONLY FIVE OR SIX TIMES OUTTA 12 POSSIBLE MONTHS. 
          UH, IN THE RECENT THINGS WE HAVE AN UNEXCUSED ABSENCE FOR LAST MONTH. 
          UH, PRIOR TO THAT, THE, THE MOST RECENT MEETING, WHICH WAS JUNE AND JULY, UH, A COMMISSIONER WALKED IN 15, 20 MINUTES LATE AND HELD THE PROCEEDINGS UP BY THAT, THAT EFFICACY AND LACK OF ENGAGEMENT REFLECTS WHAT THE BODY IS AND HASN'T BEEN. 
          I WANT TO ASK THIS. 
          IT'S NOT RHETORICAL. 
          I, I HOPE YOU LOOK AT THIS. 
          IS IT A LITMUS TEST FOR WOMEN TO THIS BODY THAT YOU PLEDGE TO DO WHATEVER THE BIZ COMMUNITY OR THE CITY COUNCIL OFFICE WANTS? WE DON'T SEE RESIDENT REPRESENTATION OR VOICES LISTENED TO. 
          UH, EVEN THE COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE ON THIS BODY REPRESENTING OSTENSIBLY THE RESIDENTIAL SEAT, THEY ARE BUSINESS OWNERS AND HAVE A STAKE, IMPACTFUL COMFORT COLLECTING THEIR NEEDS. 
          UM, I OBJECT TO, AND I WANT TO FLAG THIS FOR FUTURE, UH, ITEM TWO, THE CHAIR PUT THEIR THUMB ON THE SCALE AFTER PUBLIC COMMENTS SO 
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THAT THEY GOT TO SAY, REFUTING WHAT THE COMMENTS WERE. 
          THAT'S INAPPROPRIATE. 
          YOU ARE HERE TO COLLECT THAT COMMENT REMARK ON IT AND DISCUSS IT. 
          BUT IT'S NOT A CHANCE FOR THE CHAIR OR ANY INDIVIDUAL TO REFUTE THAT IN THE ROOM AFTER THE FACT. 
          UM, YOU SHOULD KNOW FOR POLICY THINGS, THIS PART OF THE ROOM LARGELY CANNOT SEE OR HEAR MOST OF THE PROCEEDINGS. 
          IT'S VERY DIFFICULT AND THEY COUNT, BUT THEY, THEY'RE EXCLUDED FROM THAT BY VIRTUE OF THE MECHANISM HERE. 
          YOUR TIME IS OKAY. 
          THANK YOU SIR. 
          ANYONE ELSE? SAME. 
          NONE THAT CONCLUDE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          ARE THERE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS ADJOURNMENT? IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, I CAN HONOR THIS MEETING ADJOURNED. 
          THANKS TO ALL.
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