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IS THE MEETING OF THE CULTURAL HERITAGE COMMISSION.WE ARE WAITING FOR ONE MORE COMMISSIONER SO WE CAN REACH QUORUM I.
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IS FOR THE CULTURAL HERITAGE COMMISSION MEETING, UM, ON OCTOBER 27TH, WE HAVE A OUR LAST COMMISSIONER EN ROUTE, AND WE WILL BE BEGINNING SHORTLY.[00:21:58]
WELCOME, COMMISSIONER BODAK.[CALL TO ORDER]
THE MEETING TO ORDER FOR OCTOBER 27TH, 2026.[ROLL CALL]
THE ROLE, COMMISSIONER BODAK, UH, PRESENT AND THANK YOU AND MY APOLOGIES TO EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE AND TO STAFF AS WELL.PRESENT, VICE CHAIR GFE PRESENT AND CHAIR MCG GUAN PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER PADILLA PEREZ AND COMMISSIONER PRYOR ARE EXCUSED FROM THE MEETING.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? IF NONE, PLEASE STAND
[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
AND RECITE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.I PLEDGE ALL ALLEGIANCE, ALLEGIANCE TO TO THE FLAG OF OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR SFI FOR THAT.
SINCE WE'LL, WE'RE NOT HAVING ANY HEARINGS, WE WILL SKIP THE SWEARING OF WITNESSES.
UH, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE READ THE FIRST ITEM.
[1. 26-56528 Recommendation to receive and file Director’s Report. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]
IS A RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A DIRECTOR'S REPORT.MAY I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND ON THIS? CAN I HAVE A SECOND, PLEASE? I'LL TAKE A VERBAL IF THERE'S ANY, UH, VICE CHAIR GFI.
THE MOTION HAS BEEN MOVED BY COMMISSIONER BODAK AND SECOND BY VICE CHAIR GFI.
I'LL TURN THINGS OVER TO STAFF FOR THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT.
THANK YOU, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.
UH, JUST A COUPLE UPDATES FROM THE STAFF TABLE.
UM, AT THE LAST MEETING OF THE CULTURAL HERITAGE COMMISSION, WE HAD ANNOUNCED THAT WE WOULD BE IZING ELECTIONS.
HOWEVER, SINCE WE DO HAVE A SMALLER, UH, NUMBER OF FOLKS HERE THIS EVENING, WE WILL RESERVE THAT FOR THE NEXT, UH, NEXT MEETING OF THE COMMISSION.
UM, AND AS WE LOOK TOWARDS YEAR END, I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WE ANTICIPATE, UH, LIKELY CANCELING THE NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER MEETINGS, GIVEN THEY FALL ON THE HOLIDAY WEEKS.
UM, AND DUE TO LACK OF AGENDA ITEMS, UM, NEEDING TO BE BROUGHT, BROUGHT FORWARD AT THIS TIME.
SO WE'RE EXPECTING THAT OUR NEXT MEETING WILL LIKELY BE, UM, THE LAST WEEK OF JANUARY.
I WANTED TO THANK EACH OF EACH OF YOU AS COMMISSIONERS FOR PROVIDING YOUR FEEDBACK ABOUT THE POTENTIAL OF MOVING THE DAY AND TIME OF OUR REGULAR COMMISSION MEETINGS.
WE GOT A RANGE OF FEEDBACK FROM, UH, COMMISSIONERS THAT WE ARE STILL EVALUATING.
UM, THE CHANGE WAS MORE SORT OF UNANIMOUSLY PALATABLE FOR THE OTHER COMMISSION, THE LONG BEACH, UH, COMMUNITY INVESTMENT COMPANY WHO WE HAVE ALSO ASKED TO MOVE TO HELP US WITH OUR COST SAVINGS MEASURES.
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UM, SO WE WILL BE INSTITUTING THAT MOVE, UH, SOONER.UM, AND AS DISCUSSED LAST MONTH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE OF, OF MANY THINGS THE CITY'S LOOKING AT FROM A BUDGETARY PERSPECTIVE AS WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL SMALLER STEPS TO HELP US WITH OUR COLLECTIVE NEED FOR COST CONTROL IN THIS, UH, FINANCIALLY CHALLENGING TIME.
UM, SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR PROVIDING YOUR FEEDBACK.
WE'LL EVALUATE THAT, UM, A LITTLE BIT MORE 'CAUSE SOME FOLKS ASK FOR SOME ADDITIONAL TIME AND WE'RE NOW LOOKING AT THOSE RESPONSES AND WE'LL, UH, FOLLOW UP WITH YOU IN THE COMING MONTHS.
UH, AND WE APPRECIATE, UH, YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY AND YOUR FEEDBACK AND CONTINUING TO WORK TOGETHER ON THIS TOPIC.
UH, THAT CONCLUDES MY DIRECTOR'S REPORT.
COMMISSIONERS, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT? IF THERE ARE NONE, WE'LL NOW TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT JUST ON ITEM ONE, PLEASE LINE UP AT THE PODIUM IN PERSON.
VIRTUALLY, IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FEATURE.
NOW, IF DIALING IN TELEPHONICALLY, PRESS STAR NINE NOW.
THERE APPEARS TO BE NO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.
THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE READ THE NEXT ITEM CHAIR.
I'M GONNA OPEN THE VOTE FIRST FOR ITEM ONE OH OH OH.
THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE READ THE NEXT ITEM.
[2. 26-56529 Recommendation to approve the minutes for the Cultural Heritage Commission meeting of Tuesday, September 29, 2026. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]
IS A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE CULTURAL HERITAGE COMMISSION MEETING OF TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 29TH, 2026.MAY I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THIS ITEM? THE MOTION WAS MOVED BY COMMISSIONER BODAK AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PIEL.
COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE MINUTES CLERK'S? TEAM? IS IT POSSIBLE THAT A CONFIRMATION ON THE MOTION? AND SECOND, I BELIEVE THE ITEM STILL ON THE SCREEN IS FROM ITEM ONE? YES.
UH, THE MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO.
IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COMMISSIONER BODEK AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER PIZO.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE MINUTES? IF NONE, WE'LL NOW TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER TWO, PLEASE LINE UP AT THE PODIUM AT THIS TIME.
IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FEATURE.
IF DIALING IN TELEPHONICALLY, PRESS STAR NINE NOW.
THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM.
MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL FOR THE VOTE.
THE SCREEN SHOULD BE UP SHORTLY.
UH, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE READ THE NEXT ITEM.
ITEM NUMBER THREE IS A RECOMMENDATION.
BEFORE WE MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM, CAN WE JUST GET A, A REPORT OUT ON THE VOTE SINCE THE SCREEN ISN'T REPORTING THROUGH? YES.
[3. 26-56530 Recommendation to conduct a study session on the Mills Act Program to evaluate potential future modifications to the program, including changes to application requirements and program administration. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]
A RECOMMENDATION TO CONDUCT A STUDY SESSION ON THE MILLS ACT PROGRAM TO EVALUATE POTENTIAL FUTURE MODIFICATIONS TO THE PROGRAM, INCLUDING CHANGES TO APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS AND PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION.MAY I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THIS ITEM? IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COMMISSIONER PIZO AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BODEK FOR ITEM THREE.
UM, I NOW TURN THINGS OVER TO STAFF FOR THE PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.
I'M EXCITED TO, UM, HELP INTRODUCE THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS REQUESTED FROM THE COMMISSION WHEN WE BROUGHT FORWARD, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS FOR MILS ACT CONTRACTS EARLIER THIS YEAR, A REQUEST TO FURTHER STUDY THE, UM, PROGRAM OVERALL AND ITS ADMINISTRATION.
IT'S ALSO BEEN A REQUEST, UH, FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS AS WELL.
UM, AND I WANNA RECOGNIZE AND THANK, UM, OUR STAFF HERE, UM, MARISSA AND ALEJANDRO WHO'VE BEEN HARD AT WORK, UM, PUTTING TOGETHER
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THIS STUDY SESSION FOR YOU.AND I'LL NOW TURN IT OVER TO THEM.
GOOD EVENING CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.
UM, WE'RE VERY PLEASED TO BE BRINGING YOU A STUDY SESSION TO REVIEW THE STATUS AND EFFECTIVENESS OF THE MILLS ACT PROGRAM, UH, AFTER IT WAS REINSTATED A BIT MORE THAN A DECADE AGO IN 2015.
SO WE ARE LOOKING AT THE PROGRAM TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S OPERATING AS A BEST USE OF CITY RESOURCES TO SUPPORT PRESERVATION GOALS, AND THAT IT HAS LONG-TERM SUSTAINABILITY, UH, INCLUDING THAT STAFF IS ABLE TO EFFECTIVELY MANAGE EXISTING CONTRACTS WITH AVAILABLE STAFF RESOURCES, AND ALSO PLAN FOR NEW CONTRACTS FOR THE LONG TERM.
WE ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE PROGRAM IS SUPPORTING BROADER CITY GOALS, INCLUDING GOALS AROUND EQUITY AND ACCESS FROM THE CITY'S 2030 STRATEGIC VISION.
UM, AND THIS EVENING WE'RE LOOKING TO RECEIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMISSION AND FROM THE PUBLIC TO INFORM POTENTIAL CHANGES TO THE PROGRAM.
NO, I'M NOT ABLE TO ADVANCE THE SLIDES.
I'LL HAVE ALEJANDRO KEEP WORKING ON THAT AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING.
UM, SO THIS EVENING WE'RE LOOKING TO PROVIDE BACKGROUND ON THE MILLS ACT PROGRAM GENERALLY.
SO THE STATE LEGISLATION AND THE HISTORY OF THE PROGRAM IN LONG BEACH.
WE WANNA, UM, PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE CURRENT PROGRAM WITH STATISTICS ON THE EXISTING ACTIVE CONTRACTS, REVIEW THE CURRENT APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS, UH, INCLUDING THE PRIORITY CRITERIA FOR APPLICATIONS, WORK PLANS, AND VALUATION LIMITS.
WE'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH, UM, ON MILLS ACT PROGRAMS IN OTHER CITIES, SO WE HAVE SOME COMPARISON OF THOSE OTHER PROGRAMS WITH THE THE LONG BEACH PROGRAM.
AND THEN WE HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR POTENTIAL UPDATES TO THE PROGRAM.
SO AFTER THE STAFF PRESENTATION, THERE'S TIME FOR THE COMMISSION AND THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE INPUT ON THE PROGRAM AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
UH, WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE IF I'M ABLE TO DO THAT VERBALLY.
SO THE MILLS ACT PROGRAM IS ENABLED BY STATE LEGISLATION THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 1972 AND BECAME EFFECTIVE IN MARCH OF 1973.
AND IT'S CODIFIED IN BOTH THE CALIFORNIA GOVERNMENT CODE, UH, AND THE REVENUE AND TAXATION CODE, UH, RELATED TO HOW MILLS ACT REASSESSMENTS ARE DONE.
AND THE LEGISLATION IS NAMED AFTER STATE SENATOR JAMES MILLS FROM SAN DIEGO, WHOSE WORK IN PRESERVATION AND CALIFORNIA WAS INSPIRED BY THREATS TO DEMOLISH THE HOTEL DEL CORONADO AND WHO HELPED TO CREATE THE MILLS ACT, UH, AS A WAY TO PROVIDE AN INCENTIVE TO SAVE SIMILAR PROPERTIES ACROSS THE STATE.
SO IT'S HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND THAT CONTEXT FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE MILLS ACT BECAUSE IT WAS CREATED PRIOR TO PROPOSITION 13.
SO AT A TIME WHEN MANY PROPERTY OWNERS WERE EXPERIENCING RAPID CHANGES IN YEARLY PROPERTY TAXES, AND IT WAS ALSO ESTABLISHED PRIOR TO MANY OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROTECTIONS THAT EXIST TODAY.
SO THE MILLS ACT CONTRACT IS A JOINT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE PROPERTY OWNER.
AND IN TERMS OF THE CITY'S GOALS FOR THE MILLS ACT, IT, THAT INCLUDES PROVIDING A PUBLIC BENEFIT THROUGH THE PRESERVATION OF HISTORIC PROPERTIES THAT CONTRIBUTE TO THE CHARACTER OF THE CITY, ENCOURAGING THE DESIGNATION OF NEW LANDMARKS AND EXPANDING EQUITY AND ACCESS TO PRESERVATION INCENTIVES.
AND THEN FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER, THE MILLS ACT HELPS TO FUND IMPROVEMENTS TO THE CONDITION OF THEIR HISTORIC PROPERTY, PROVIDES ACCESS TO THOSE TAX SAVINGS TO OFFSET THE COSTS OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH HISTORIC PRESERVATION STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES.
AND IT PROVIDES A POTENTIAL INCENTIVE TO BUYERS OF PROPERTY BECAUSE THE CONTRACT AND THE TAX BENEFIT TRANSFERS TO NEW OWNERS.
SO A MILLS ACT CONTRACT IS EXECUTED FOR A MINIMUM 10 YEAR TERM, AND THE CONTRACT IS
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RECORDED AGAINST THE PROPERTY FOLLOWING THE EXECUTION OF THE CONTRACT.SO THE PROPERTY OWNER AGREES TO COMPLETE A WORK PLAN FOR REHABILITATION AND MAINTENANCE THAT'S BASED ON THE NEEDS OF THEIR SPECIFIC HISTORIC PROPERTY, CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S HISTORIC PRESERVATION STANDARDS, UM, AND THE CITY'S CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS PROCESS.
SO AN INSPECTION OF THE PROPERTY, UM, IS CONDUCTED BY THE CITY PRIOR TO EXECUTION OF A NEW CONTRACT, AND THEN SHOULD BE CONDUCTED EVERY FIVE YEARS AFTER RECORDING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER IS COMPLYING WITH THOSE CONTRACT REQUIREMENTS.
UM, ALTHOUGH THAT ONGOING INSPECTION CYCLE IS ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WITH THE PROGRAM, UM, PARTICULARLY A PROGRAM LIKE LONG BEACH, THAT INCLUDES OLDER CONTRACTS, UH, AND THE ADDITION OF NEW CONTRACTS EVERY YEAR.
SO CONTRACTS ARE RENEWED AUTOMATICALLY EACH YEAR FOR A NEW 10 YEAR TERM, WHICH MEANS, IN EFFECT, THE MILLS ACT CONTRACT RUNS IN PERPETUITY UNLESS THE CONTRACT IS EITHER NOT RENEWED OR CANCELED.
SO THAT MEANS WHAT I WAS REFERENCING EARLIER, THAT THE CONTRACT TRANSFERS AUTOMATICALLY TO NEW PROPERTY OWNERS WHEN A PROPERTY IS SOLD.
THERE ARE TWO MAIN WAYS TO REMOVE A MILLS ACT CONTRACT FROM A PROPERTY.
UM, EITHER THE CITY OR THE PROPERTY OWNER CAN REQUEST A NON-RENEWAL.
AND AFTER THE NOTICE OF NON-RENEWAL IS RECEIVED, THE CONTRACT SUNSETS OVER THE REMAINING 10 YEAR TERM OF THE CONTRACT OR THE CITY CAN INITIATE A CANCELLATION IF THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS NOT COMPLIED WITH THE CONDITIONS OF THE CONTRACT, HAS ALLOWED THE PROPERTY TO DETERIORATE TO THE POINT THAT IT'S NO LONGER QUALIFIES AS A HISTORIC RESOURCE, OR IF THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS FAILED TO COMPLETE THAT WORK PLAN FOR REHABILITATION THAT'S IN THE CONTRACT.
SO THAT CANCELLATION REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, WITH THE APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL FOR THE CANCELLATION AND CANCELLATION IMPOSES A PENALTY OF 12.5% OF THE FAIR MARKET VALUE OF THE PROPERTY, UM, ON THE OWNER IF THE CANCELLATION IS APPROVED.
SO AFTER A MILLS ACT CONTRACT IS RECORDED, THE RECORDING TRIGGERS THE LA COUNTY ASSESSOR TO REASSESS THE PROPERTY USING AN INCOME CAPITALIZATION METHOD.
SO THAT METHOD FOR REASSESSMENT IS SET BY THE MILLS ACT STATE LEGISLATION.
UM, SO THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE ANY INPUT ON THAT REASSESSMENT, BUT IT'S NOT POSSIBLE FOR THE MILLS ACT CONTRACT TO CAUSE AN INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAXES FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER.
THE COUNTY ASSESSOR ALWAYS ASSESSES PROPERTY TAXES ON THE LOWEST POTENTIAL VALUATION, WHETHER THAT'S THE EXISTING ASSESSMENT UNDER PREP 13 OR THE MILLS ACT REASSESSMENT.
AND SO WITH THAT INCOME CAPITALIZATION METHOD FOR, UM, ASSESSMENT OF THE PROPERTY, GENERALLY PROPERTY OWNERS WHO HAVE PURCHASED THEIR PROPERTIES MORE RECENTLY, PARTICULARLY IN THE PAST FEW YEARS, ARE MOST LIKELY TO BENEFIT FROM A MILLS ACT CONTRACT.
LONGER TERM OWNERS LIKELY WON'T BENEFIT BECAUSE THE MILLS ACT ASSESSMENT IS LIKELY TO BE HIGHER THAN THE ASSESSMENT UNDER PROP PROPOSITION 13.
UM, BUT AGAIN, BECAUSE THE PRO CONTRACT TRANSFERS WITH THE PROPERTY, IT MAY BENEFIT A NEW BUYER WHO WOULD OTHERWISE RECEIVE A STEPPED UP ASSESSMENT BASED ON THE SALES PRICE OF THE PROPERTY.
SO WHAT I'VE TALKED ABOUT TO THIS POINT ARE THE MILLS ACT PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE SET BY THE STATE LEGISLATION.
UM, BUT THE STATE LEGISLATION ALSO ALLOWS EACH CITY WITH A MILLS ACT PROGRAM TO ADOPT THEIR OWN CRITERIA FOR NEW CONTRACTS AND FOR ADMINISTERING THAT LOCAL PROGRAM.
SO IN LONG BEACH, THE MILLS ACT PROGRAM WAS ESTABLISHED BY CITY COUNCIL IN 1993.
IN 2006, THE PROGRAM WAS PAUSED, UH, TO ASSESS THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE PROGRAM, AND THEN THAT PAUSE WAS CONTINUED IN RESPONSE TO THE RECESSION.
AT THE TIME OF THAT PAUSE, THERE WERE 37 RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT HAD A, THAT HAD AN APPROVED MILLS ACT CONTRACT, INCLUDING THREE CONDOMINIUM BUILDINGS.
AND THEN AFTER THAT PAUSE IN 2015, THE CITY COUNCIL REINSTATED THE PROGRAM WITH SOME UPDATED REQUIREMENTS, INCLUDING THE ADDITION OF PRIORITY CRITERIA FOR ASSESSING NEW APPLICATIONS, PROCEDURES FOR CONDOMINIUM BUILDINGS, AND SOME OTHER LIMITS
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ON NEW CONTRACTS.THE PROGRAM WAS ALSO BRIEFLY PAUSED IN 2021 AND 2022 IN RESPONSE TO THE PANDEMIC.
SO THE MAJORITY OF THE MILLS ACT CONTRACTS, UH, 130 CONTRACTS HAVE BEEN APPROVED SINCE THE PROGRAM WAS REINSTATED ON AVERAGE PRE 2006.
BEFORE THE, THE PAUSE, THE PROGRAM WAS AVERAGING, UM, ABOUT THREE NEW CONTRACTS PER YEAR.
AND THE VOLUME OF APPROVED NEW CONTRACTS HAS BEEN MUCH GREATER IN THE PAST 10 YEARS AND CONTINUES TO INCREASE.
SO IN LONG BEACH, UM, PROPERTIES ARE ELIGIBLE TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR A CONTRACT.
PROPERTIES NEED TO BE DESIGNATED AS INDIVIDUAL LANDMARKS ELIGIBLE TO BE DESIGNATED AS LANDMARKS OR CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES WITHIN A HISTORIC DISTRICT.
AND AS PART OF THE APPLICATION, THE PROPERTY OWNER IS REQUIRED TO PREPARE A DETAILED AND SUBSTANTIAL 10 YEAR WORK PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY THAT MEETS THE CITY'S HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
UH, STANDARDS APPLICATIONS ARE ASSESSED BASED ON THOSE PRIORITY CRITERIA THAT I'VE MENTIONED, AND WE'LL GO INTO A BIT MORE DETAIL ABOUT COMING UP HERE.
THERE'S ALSO A CAP ON THE TOTAL NUMBER OF CONTRACTS PER YEAR, UH, AND THERE ARE VALUATION LIMITS FOR PROPERTIES, AGAIN, BASED ON, UM, PROPERTY TYPES.
SO THE CURRENT PRIOR PRIORITY CRITERIA FOR A MILLS ACT APPLICATION ARE, UM, IF THE, THE PROPERTY IS A UNIQUE OR IMPORTANT HISTORIC STRUCTURE IN PARTICULARLY POOR CONDITION AND IN NEED OF SIGNIFICANT RESTORATION.
IF THE PROPERTY IS A POTENTIAL LANDMARK THAT'S NOT DESIGNATED, THAT'S NOT IN A DESIGNATED HISTORIC DISTRICT, OR IF THE APPLICATION INCLUDES THE USE OF LOCAL LONG BEACH, UH, LABOR AND MATERIALS IN THE WORK PLAN.
UM, AND PART OF STAFF STAFF'S EFFORTS TO, UM, THINK ABOUT HOW TO EXPAND ACCESS TO LANDMARK DESIGNATION, WE PROVIDED SOME CLARIFICATION IN THE 2026 APPLICATION, UH, THAT PROPERTIES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE RACE AND SUBURBANIZATION HISTORIC CONTEXT STATEMENT OR PROPERTIES THAT REPRESENT UNDERREPRESENTED COMMUNITIES OR DIFFERENT TYPES OF HISTORIC RESOURCES WOULD QUALIFY AS A UNIQUE OR IMPORTANT HISTORIC STRUCTURE FOR THAT FIRST PRIORITY CRITERIA.
THERE ARE ALSO LIMITS ON THE NUMBER OF NEW CONTRACTS THAT CAN BE APPROVED EACH YEAR BASED ON PROPERTY TYPES.
SO IT'S A MAXIMUM OF 12 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES, THREE DUPLEXES OR TRIPLEXES, FOUR MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL OR MIXED USE PROPERTIES, AND ONE NON-RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
THERE'S ALSO A MAXIMUM OF TWO PROPERTIES OF, OF ANY TYPE THAT ARE PARTICULARLY EXCEPTIONAL, CULTURALLY SIGNIFICANT, OR AT RISK OF DEMOLITION.
THERE ARE ALSO VALUATION LIMITS ON, UH, WHICH PROPERTIES CAN RECEIVE A CONTRACT.
SO FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES, THE VALUATION LIMIT IS, UH, JUST OVER 1.7 MILLION FOR DUPLEXES AND TRIPLEXES.
THE VALUATION LIMIT IS PER DWELLING UNIT AND IS JUST OVER 1 MILLION FOR EACH DWELLING UNIT.
THERE'S NO VALUATION LIMIT THAT'S IMPOSED ON MULTIFAMILY OR MIXED USE PROPERTIES.
AND FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, THE VALUATION LIMIT, UH, IS SLIGHTLY OVER, WHAT 4.4 MILLION.
THERE'S NO CAP ON THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE EXCEPTIONAL, CULTURALLY SIGNIFICANT OR AT RISK OF DEMOLITION.
UM, BUT FROM THAT PREVIOUS SLIDE, NO MORE THAN TWO OF THOSE, UM, KINDS OF CONTRACTS CAN BE APPROVED EACH YEAR.
SO FOR THE CURRENT PROGRAM, THERE ARE 167 ACTIVE MILLS ACT CONTRACTS WITH AN ADDITIONAL SIX CONTRACTS THAT WERE APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL THIS YEAR AND WILL BE RECORDED BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
THE EXISTING CONTRACTS RESULT IN AN APPROXIMATELY $400,000 REDUCTION IN PROPERTY TAX REVENUE TO THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
UM, THAT IS A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE OVERALL GENERAL FUND, BUT IT DOES INCREASE EACH YEAR AS NEW CONTRACTS ARE BEING APPROVED.
SO PART OF WHAT WE LOOKED AT FOR THIS STUDY SESSION WAS THE DISTRIBUTION OF CURRENT MILLS ACT CONTRACTS, INCLUDING
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THE TYPES OF RESOURCES THAT HAVE RECEIVED A CONTRACT AND LOCATIONS ACROSS THE CITY.SO A TOTAL OF 48 CONTRACTS HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR, UM, INDIVIDUAL LANDMARKS.
ANOTHER 95 CONTRACTS ARE FOR, UM, CONTRIBUTORS TO HISTORIC DISTRICTS, AND THEN 24 ARE FOR CONTRACTS THAT ARE BOTH LANDMARKS AND CONTRIBUTORS TO A HISTORIC DISTRICT.
DRAKE WILMORE HISTORIC DISTRICT HAS THE LARGEST NUMBER OF MILLS ACT CONTRACTS OF ANY HISTORIC DISTRICT.
THERE ARE 23 IN DRAKE WILMORE, UM, FOLLOWED BY BLUFF PARK, BLUFF HEIGHTS, AND CALIFORNIA HEIGHTS.
THERE ARE, UM, FOUR SMALL HISTORIC DISTRICTS THAT HAVE NO MILLS ACT CONTRACTS IN THEM.
THOSE ARE BRENNER PLACE, ELLIOT LANE, MINERVA PLACE, AND WILTON STREET.
AND THE REMAINING 10 HISTORIC DISTRICTS HAVE 10 OR FEWER MILLS ACT CONTRACTS EACH, UH, IN THEM.
SO THE LARGEST CONCENTRATION OF MILLS ACT CONTRACTS, UM, ARE REALLY IN AREAS WITH LARGER HISTORIC DISTRICTS.
SO THAT INCLUDES, UM, MIDSHORE DOWNTOWN AND BIXBY KNOLLS, UM, PARTICULARLY COW HEIGHTS, UH, ON THIS MAP.
AND, UH, THE MAP ON THE RIGHT IS SHOWING, UH, THE MILLS ACT CONTRACTS WITHIN THE CITY'S COMMUNITY PLANNING AREAS.
AND THIS IS, UM, IN PART A REFLECTION OF THE DISTRIBUTION OF DESIGNATED HISTORIC RESOURCES AND HISTORIC DISTRICTS IN THE CITY.
AND I THINK DEMONSTRATES THAT THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT THE MILLS ACT IS PART OF AN ONGOING AND LARGER EFFORT TO INCREASE AND IMPROVE THAT DISTRIBUTION OF DESIGNATED LANDMARKS ACROSS THE CITY AS A WHOLE, AND TO RECOGNIZE THE HISTORY OF OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY, UM, BEYOND THE EXISTING HISTORIC DISTRICTS AND LANDMARKS.
SO STAFF ALSO MAPPED THE EXISTING MILLS ACT PROPERTIES ONTO THE 2026 OPPORTUNITY MAP FROM THE CALIFORNIA TRACK TAX CREDIT ALLOCATION COMMITTEE, DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
SO THE OPPORTUNITY MAP IDENTIFIES AREAS WITH CHARACTERISTICS THAT HAVE BEEN SHOWN TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH POSITIVE ECONOMIC, EDUCATIONAL AND HEALTH OUTCOMES FOR LOW INCOME FAMILIES, AND PARTICULARLY LONG, LONG TERM OUTCOMES FOR CHILDREN.
IT ALSO IDENTIFIES AREAS THAT HAVE A HIGHER POTENTIAL FOR NEGATIVE HEALTH OUTCOMES FOR VULNERABLE POPULATIONS.
SO THE, UM, OPPORTUNITY MAP SCORES NEIGHBORHOODS BASED ON THOSE ECONOMIC AND EDUCATIONAL IN, UH, INDICATORS RELATIVE TO OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE SAME REGION.
AND THE FINAL SCORES ARE DIVIDED INTO HIGH RESOURCE, HIGHEST RESOURCE, HIGH RESOURCE, MODERATE RESOURCE, AND LOW RESOURCE.
SO HIGHEST RESOURCE ARE THOSE AREAS WITH THE HIGHEST ASSOCIATION WITH POSITIVE ECONOMIC, EDUCATIONAL AND HEALTH OUTCOMES.
UM, ALSO SHOWN ON THIS MAP ARE, UM, CENSUS TRACKS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED AS HIGH POVERTY AND SEGREGATED AREAS BASED ON, UM, CRITERIA AROUND THE HIGHEST CONCENTRATION OF POVERTY RATES AND RACIAL SEGREGATION.
AND IN LONG BEACH, THERE ARE, UM, FIVE HIGH POVERTY AND SEGREGATED AREA TRACKS, UM, ALL OF THEM WITHIN LOW RESOURCE AREAS.
SO THE OPPORTUNITY MAP IS ONE WAY TO HELP INFORM POLICY THAT INCREASES ACCESS TO OPPORTUNITY HOUSING MOBILITY FOR LOWER INCOME FAMILIES.
AND USING THESE KINDS OF ENVIRONMENTAL AND ECONOMIC INDICATORS IS SOMETHING THAT OTHER MILLS ACT PROGRAMS, UM, HAVE DONE IN CALIFORNIA IN AN EFFORT TO UNDERSTAND WHICH COMMUNITIES AND WHICH RESIDENTS ARE ACCESSING THE BENEFITS OF THE MILLS ACT PROGRAM.
SO THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES HAS WORKED ON A SIMILAR EFFORT, UM, UNDERTAKEN AFTER THEIR PROGRAM WAS PAUSED IN 2022, UM, USING SPECIFICALLY THE OPPORTUNITY MAP.
SAN FRANCISCO ALSO HAS A SIMILAR EFFORT LOOKING AT PRIORITY EQUITY GEOGRAPHIES, UM, WHICH USES SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ME, UH, METRICS, BUT A SIMILAR INTENT TO IDENTIFY HIGHER DENSITIES OF VULNERABLE POPULATIONS AND HOW THE MILLS ACT PROGRAM INTERSECTS WITH THOSE COMMUNITIES.
SO APPROXIMATELY 44% OF CURRENT MILLS ACT CONTRACTS ARE LOCATED IN LOW RESOURCE AREAS IDENTIFIED ON THE OPPORTUNITY MAP.
UH, 48% OF MILLS ACT CONTRACTS ARE LOCATED IN THE HIGHEST OR HIGH RESOURCE AREAS.
AND THIS DISTRIBUTION IS LIKELY A REFLECTION OF, OF A FEW DIFFERENT FACTORS, UM, INCLUDING WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER, INCLU IN TERMS OF THE DISTRIBUTION OF EXISTING LANDMARKS AND HISTORIC DISTRICTS ACROSS THE CITY AS A WHOLE.
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10 OF THE 18 DESIGNATED HISTORIC DISTRICTS ARE LOCATED IN LOW RESOURCE AREAS, UM, BUT THEY DO TEND TO BE, UH, HISTORIC DISTRICTS THAT ARE SMALLER IN AREA AND TOTAL NUMBER OF PROPERTIES COMPARED WITH THE LARGER HISTORIC DISTRICTS IN HIGH RESOURCE AREAS LIKE BLUFF PARK, BLUFF HEIGHTS, CALIFORNIA HEIGHTS.WE ALSO THINK THAT IT IS INDICATIVE OF, UM, SOME POSITIVE MOVEMENT IN THE CITY'S EFFORTS TO MAKE THE M ACT PROGRAM MORE ACCESSIBLE TO COMMUNITIES IN THE RESOURCE AREAS.
SO SINCE 2021, THE FIRST M ACT CONTRACTS HAVE BEEN APPROVED IN WRIGLEY HISTORIC DISTRICT AND GRANT NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND ADDITIONAL HISTORIC, UH, ADDITIONAL MOSA CONTRACTS HAVE BEEN APPROVED IN HELLMAN STREET HISTORIC DISTRICT AND SUNRISE BOULEVARD.
UM, AND ALL OF THESE HISTORIC DISTRICTS ARE FULLY LOCATED WITHIN, UH, LOW RESOURCE CENSUS TRACKS.
AT THE SAME TIME, THE MILLS ACT PROGRAM, UH, IS NOT COLLECTING DEMOGRAPHIC DATA ON CONTRACT RECIPIENTS, BUT WE DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE RACIAL DISPARITIES CITYWIDE AROUND HOME OWNERSHIP WITH 57% OF WHITE RESIDENTS BEING HOMEOWNERS COMPARED TO 24 AND 31% OF BLACK AND LATINO RESIDENTS RESPECTIVELY.
THE CITY IS ALSO MAJORITY RENTER, AND THE MILLS ACT PROGRAM DOES NOT DIRECTLY BENEFIT RENTERS BECAUSE IT IS A PROPERTY TAX INCENTIVE.
SO THERE IS MORE EFFORT NEEDED AROUND OUTREACH AND DATA GATHERING TO ENSURE THAT THE MILLS ACT PROGRAM CAN BE ACCESSED EQUITABLY, EQUITABLY.
AND WE'RE WORKING IN THE PLANNING BUREAU TO RAMP UP THESE EFFORTS, PARTICULARLY OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, AND TO CONTINUE TO INCREASE AWARENESS OF THE MILLS ACT PROGRAM AND ALSO PLAN FOR IMPROVED OUTREACH EFFORTS FOR ENGAGEMENT AND ACCESS.
SO THE STAFF REPORT ALSO PROVIDES A COMPARISON OF THE LONG BEACH PROGRAM WITH OTHER CITIES, UH, PARTICULARLY LOS ANGELES, SAN FRANCISCO, PASADENA, AND SAN DIEGO.
SO SIMILAR TO LONG BEACH, ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN ACTIVE FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS.
THREE OF THE PROGRAMS ARE CURRENTLY ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
THAT'S SAN DIEGO, SAN FRANCISCO, AND PASADENA.
THE LOS ANGELES MILLS ACT PROGRAM HAS BEEN PAUSED SINCE 2022 TO ASSESS THE PROGRAM AND TO CONSIDER CHANGES TO ITS, UM, REQUIREMENTS, UM, PARTICULARLY WITH A FOCUS ON HOW TO MAKE SURE THE PROGRAM IS SUSTAINABLE AND EQUITABLE.
SO THE INFORMATION ON CITY OF LOS ANGELES, UM, IS BASED ON APPLICATION INFORMATION FROM WHEN THEIR PROGRAM WAS ACTIVE, UH, BUT ALSO CONSIDERS THE WORK THAT LOS ANGELES HAS DONE TO REVIEW AND CONSIDER POTENTIAL CHANGES TO THEIR PROGRAM.
SO THERE'S A VERY WIDE RANGE OF TOTAL NUMBER OF CONTRACTS AMONG THE PROGRAMS, UH, FROM MORE THAN 1500 IN SAN DIEGO TO 45 IN SAN FRANCISCO.
BUT THERE ARE SOME COMMON THEMES ACROSS THE PROGRAMS, UM, RELATED TO HOW, UM, NEW APPLICATIONS ARE ASSESSED AND HOW THE PROGRAM IS MANAGED.
SO PARTICULARLY AROUND THE USE OF PRIORITY CRITERIA FOR ASSESSING APPLICATIONS AND CONSISTENT METHODS OF, UM, EITHER CAPPING PROPERTY VALUATIONS OR, UH, CAPPING THE TOTAL REDUCTIONS IN PROPERTY TAX REVENUE FROM THE PROGRAM.
SO RELATED TO THE PRIORITY CRI CRITERIA, AMONG ALL OF THE PROGRAMS, THERE'S AN EMPHASIS ON RECOGNIZING PARTICULARLY UNIQUE OR SIGNIFICANT HISTORIC PROPERTIES.
THERE'S ALSO A FOCUS, UM, ON ENSURING THAT WORK PLANS ARE SUPPORTING SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT IN THE HISTORIC PROPERTIES THAT RECEIVE A MILLS ACT CONTRACT.
AND, UH, THAT THE MILLS ACT CONTRACT IS BEING USED TO PRESERVE PROPERTIES THAT MIGHT OTHERWISE BE AT RISK OF DEMOLITION.
THERE'S ALSO AN EMPHASIS AMONG THE PROGRAMS AND THE PRIORITY CRITERIA TO SUPPORT THE RETENTION OF EXISTING MULTIFAMILY HOUSING, UM, OR TO SUPPORT ADAPTIVE REUSE PROGRAMS THAT CREATE NEW HOUSING.
AND THAT INCLUDES, UH, CITY OF LOS ANGELES PRIORITY CRITERION FOR MULTIFAMILY PROPERTIES THAT REQUIRES PROPERTIES WITH MORE THAN 20 RESIDENTIAL UNITS TO PROVIDE DOCUMENTATION SHOWING, UM, THAT THE PROPERTY INCLUDES THE PRESERVATION OR ADDITION OF DWELLING UNITS FOR LOW AND MODERATE INCOME HOUSEHOLDS.
SO THAT THAT AFFORDABILITY CRITERIA IN LA IN LOS ANGELES,
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UH, WAS IMPLEMENTED JUST A COUPLE OF YEARS BEFORE THEIR PROGRAM WAS PAUSED.SO THE CITY WAS STILL REVIEWING HOW EXACTLY TO IMPLEMENT THAT AFFORDABILITY CRITERIA, AND THERE'S NO DATA YET ON THAT IMPLEMENTATION, BUT IT DOES HIGHLIGHT OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE MILLS ACT PROGRAM TO SUPPORT AND WORK IN CONCERT WITH OTHER CITY PRIORITIES AROUND HOUSING AND AFFORDABILITY.
SO THREE OF THE FOUR PROGRAMS ALSO HAVE PROPERTY VALUATION LIMITS, UH, LOS ANGELES, SAN FRANCISCO, AND PASADENA.
SIMILAR TO THE, UH, VALUATION LIMITS THAT LONG BEACH USES, LOS ANGELES AND SAN FRANCISCO ALSO HAVE AN OPTION SIMILAR TO LONG BEACH, TO EXEMPT PARTICULARLY EXCEPTIONAL PROPERTIES FROM THOSE VALUATION LIMITS.
AND THEN TWO OF THE PROGRAMS HAVE A CAP ON THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF PROPERTY TAX REDUCTION TO THE CITY.
SO, UH, IN LOS ANGELES, THE ANNUAL PROPERTY TAX REVENUE LOSS, UH, WHEN THE, UH, PROGRAM WAS OPERATING WAS CAPPED AT NO MORE THAN $2 MILLION TOTAL FOR ALL CONTRACTS THAT'S WITH EXISTING AND ANY NEW CONTRACTS THAT ARE, UH, THAT WERE PUT INTO PLACE.
UM, THOUGH BASED ON LOS ANGELES'S PROGRAM ASSESSMENT, THAT CAP WAS DIFFICULT TO ADMINISTER OVER THE WHOLE COURSE OF THE PROGRAM.
AND THEN IN SAN DIEGO, THERE IS AN ANNUAL CAP OF NO MORE THAN $200,000 REDUCTION IN PROPERTY TAX REVENUE FOR THE NEW MILLS ACT CONTRACTS APPROVED EACH YEAR.
AND THEN, UM, WE'VE HAD SOME QUESTIONS IN THE MOST RECENT, UM, MILLS ACT APPLICATION CYCLE, PARTICULARLY ABOUT THE REQUIREMENTS AROUND CONDOMINIUM BUILDINGS.
SO THAT IS ONE OF THE AREAS THAT WE LOOKED AT IN COMPARISON WITH OTHER CITIES.
SO ALL OF THE COMPARISON CITIES, EXCEPT APPLICATIONS FROM CONDOMINIUMS AND, UM, HAVE ENTERED INTO CONTRACTS WITH CONDOS.
LOS ANGELES AND SAN FRANCISCO, UH, REQUIRED THE APPLICATION TO BE SUBMITTED BY THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION WITH DOCUMENTATION THAT SHOWS A HUNDRED PERCENT PARTICIPATION FROM ALL OF THE CONDO OWNERS IN THE BUILDING IN LOS ANGELES.
THAT APPLICATION, UM, COULD REQUIRE CHANGES OR AMENDMENTS TO THE CCNRS TO SPECIFICALLY ENFORCE THE MILLS ACT CONTRACT.
IN CONTRAST, PASADENA ACCEPTS APPLICATIONS FROM A HOMEOWNERS HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION WITH A PETITION, UH, SHOWING SUPPORT OF THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN A CONDO BUILDING.
SAN DIEGO TAKES AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT APPROACH, UM, AND THEY ACTUALLY PERMIT INDIVIDUAL CONDO UNIT OWNERS TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT FOR THEIR OWN UNIT IN A HISTORIC BUILDING.
SO EACH CONDO OWNER PAYS ALL OF THE FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THE MILLS ACT PROGRAM, AND THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT FOR PARTICIPATION FROM THE HOA OR OTHER, UH, UNIT OWNERS IN THE BUILDING.
UH, AND WHAT THAT MEANS FOR SAN DIEGO IS THAT THEY HAVE, UM, 323 MILLS ACT CONTRACTS WITH INDIVIDUAL CONDO UNIT OWNERS, UH, ACROSS 10 DIFFERENT CONDO BUILDINGS.
THAT'S, UH, 323 MILLS ACT CONTRACTS FOR THOSE INDIVIDUAL UNITS OUT OF THEIR TOTAL, SLIGHTLY MORE THAN 1500 MILLS ACT CONTRACTS.
SO WITH ALL OF THIS INFORMATION, THERE ARE A FEW CONSIDERATIONS IN BALANCE FOR THE MILLS ACT PROGRAM.
IT'S ONE OF THE FEW FINANCIAL INCENTIVES THAT'S AVAILABLE TO SUPPORT HISTORIC PRESERVATION FOR PROPERTY OWNERS, AND IT'S AN IMPORTANT TOOL TO ENCOURAGE DESIGNATION OF NEW LANDMARKS AND PRESERVATION OF HISTORIC PROPERTIES.
BECAUSE OF THE PROGRAM, PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE INVESTED IN HISTORIC PROPERTIES TO THE BENEFIT OF THE CITY'S NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE LOCAL ECONOMY.
BUT THERE'S ALSO CONCERN THAT THE PROGRAM PRIMARILY SUPPORTS, UM, AFFLUENCE SINGLE FAMILY HOME OWNERS IN A DIVERSE CITY THAT IS MAJORITY RENTER.
THE PROGRAM IS ALSO A COMMITMENT OF CITY RESOURCES, SO STAFF TIME TO MANAGE THE PROGRAM, AND ALSO THE REDUCTION IN PROPERTY TAX REVENUE THAT WOULD OTHERWISE GO TO THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND.
THE FEES FOR THE MILLS ACT, UM, HELP TO RECOVER STAFF COSTS FOR THAT ADMINISTRATION, UM, INCLUDING FEES FOR THE INSPECTIONS.
UM, BUT IT DOES REMAIN CHALLENGING TO EFFECTIVELY ADMINISTER A PROGRAM WITH A LARGE NUMBER OF CONTRACTS, INCLUDING CONTRACTS THAT ARE OVER 20 YEARS OLD AT THIS POINT.
SO WITH THAT IN MIND, UH, STAFF HAS SOME POTENTIAL UPDATES FOR THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER AND TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON.
SO FIRST IS THE EXPANSION OF THE PRIORITY CRITERIA TO INCLUDE,
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UM, ADDITIONAL CRITERIA RELATED TO CULTURAL HERITAGE, PUBLIC BENEFIT, AND AFFORDABILITY.SO FOR CULTURAL HERITAGE, THIS CRITERIA COULD, UM, EMPHASIZE THAT HISTORIC RESOURCES, UM, INCLUDE PROPERTIES THAT MAY NOT BE THE BEST, UM, ARCHITECTURAL EXAMPLES, BUT ARE A REFLECTION OF THE SHARED HISTORY AND VALUES AND BELIEFS OF A PARTICULAR COMMUNITY OR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND RECOGNIZING THAT THESE KINDS OF RESOURCES MAY HAVE HAD MORE CHANGES OVER TIME AND SHOULD STILL BE A PRIORITY FOR A MILLS ACT CONTRACT.
IN TERMS OF PUBLIC BENEFIT, THE MILLS ACT IS A USE OF PUBLIC FUNDS.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE PROGRAM REALIZES A PUBLIC BENEFIT, SO THAT, UH, FOR THE PRIORITY CRITERIA COULD BE AN EMPHASIS ON IMPROVING PUBLIC ACCESS TO HISTORIC PLACES, AND ALSO ENSURING THAT THE MILLS ACT PROPERTIES RETAIN, UM, VISIBLE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER THAT MAKE HISTORIC PLACES, UH, IMPORTANT AND SIGNIFICANT FOR AFFORDABILITY.
STEPH IS ALSO CONSIDERING, UH, PRIORITIES SIMILAR TO LOS ANGELES, THAT WOULD, UM, REQUIRE DOCUMENTATION FOR THE PRESERVATION OR ADDITION OF AFFORDABLE DWELLING UNITS, UH, IN MULTIFAMILY OR MIXED USE BUILDINGS WITH MORE THAN 20 UNITS, PARTICULARLY WITH AN EMPHASIS ON PRESERVING NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UH, AND AN EMPHASIS ON, UM, PROVIDING RENTERS IN THE CITY WITH, UH, BENEFITS FROM THE MILLS ACT PROGRAM.
IN TERMS OF UPDATES TO THE CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION STAFF, UH, IS CONSIDERING, UM, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO SWITCH THE APPLICATION CYCLE TO EVERY OTHER YEAR RATHER THAN ANNUALLY.
THAT HAS A COUPLE OF BENEFITS, INCLUDING THE POTENTIAL FOR STRONGER, UM, APPLICATION POOLS ON THAT EVERY OTHER YEAR CYCLE.
IT ALSO PROVIDES OPPORTUNITIES FOR STAFF TO FOCUS ON OUTREACH EFFORTS, UH, AND ONGOING INSPECTIONS IN THAT OFF YEAR.
THOSE REGULAR INSPECTIONS ARE AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE MILLS ACT CONTRACT, BECAUSE THAT'S THE VERIFICATION THAT THE APPLICANT IS COMPLYING WITH THE WORK PLAN AND WITH THE CONTRACT THAT EVERY OTHER YEAR CYCLE INCLUDES MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR STAFF TIME TO REVIEW THOSE EXISTING CONTRACTS AND TO WORK WITH PROPERTY OWNERS, INCLUDING POTENTIALLY ON NON-RENEWALS OF EXISTING CONTRACTS WHERE THAT'S APPROPRIATE.
WE ALSO HAVE A RECOMMENDATION TO LIMIT THE CONTRACT DURATION FOR NEW CONTRACTS TO 20 YEARS.
ONE OF THE MAIN CHALLENGES OF MANAGING A MILLS ACT PROGRAM IS THAT THE CONTRACTS RUN IN PERPETUITY, AND THAT THE CITY IS REQUIRED TO TRACK THOSE CONTRACTS OVER DECADES, INCLUDING EACH TIME A A PROPERTY IS SOLD.
LONG BEACH, UM, HAS A RELATIVELY MODEST NUMBER OF MILLS ACT CONTRACTS, UH, BUT IT REMAINS A CHALLENGE TO DEDICATE STAFF TIME TO PROPERLY MANAGE THE PROGRAM.
SO IN ORDER TO IMPLEMENT THAT 20 YEAR CONTRACT DURATION, IT WOULD REQUIRE THE CITY TO SEND A NOTICE OF NON-RENEWAL TO THE PROPERTY OWNER IN THE 10TH YEAR OF THE INITIAL 10 YEAR TERM OF THE CONTRACT, AND THEN THE CONTRACT WOULD SUNSET OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS FOR A TOTAL DURATION OF 20 YEARS.
SO THIS APPROACH STILL PROVIDES A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR REHABILITATION AND RESTORATION TO TAKE PLACE ON THE PROPERTY, AND WOULD STILL PROVIDE A SUBSTANTIAL BENEFIT TO THE PROPERTY OWNER IN TERMS OF REDUCTION IN PROPERTY TAXES.
BUT IT ALSO HELPS WITH, UM, REDUCING SOME OF THAT ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN OF MANAGING CONTRACTS OVER TIME.
AND THEN FINALLY, RELATED TO CONDOMINIUMS, STAFF IS NOT RECOMMENDING A CHANGE TO THE REQUIREMENT FOR 100% PARTICIPATION, UH, FROM ALL UNIT OWNERS AT THIS TIME.
THAT REQUIREMENT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2015 WITH THE REINSTATEMENT OF THE PROGRAM, PARTICULARLY DUE TO CHALLENGES WITH MANAGING MILLS ACT CONTRACTS FOR THREE CONDO BUILDINGS THAT PREDATE THAT REQUIREMENT AND HAD LESS THAN 100% PARTICIPATION IN THEIR INITIAL CONTRACTS.
SO WE HAVE HEARD FROM DOWNTOWN CONDO OWNERS IN HISTORIC BUILDINGS THAT 100% PARTICIPATION IS A BARRIER TO THEIR PARTICIPATION IN THE PROGRAM, WHICH PROMPTED US TO LOOK AGAIN AT THAT REQUIREMENT AND TO LOOK AT HOW OTHER CITIES ARE MANAGING.
UM, THIS QUESTION I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY THAT THAT 100% REQUIREMENT IS NOT UNIVERSAL AMONG ALL MILLS ACT PROGRAMS, BUT IT IS CONSISTENT WITH OTHER LARGE CITIES.
AND, UM, WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THE POSITION THAT THE FULL CONSENT FROM ALL PROPERTY OWNERS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE WORK PLAN THAT'S
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REQUIRED FOR THE CONTRACT IS A MUTUAL RESPONSIBILITY OF ALL OWNERS IN A CONDO BUILDING.THERE ARE ALSO LEGAL CONCERNS WITH ENTERING INTO A CONTRACT, UH, IF THAT CONTRACT HAS RECEIVED PARTICULARLY AN OBJECTION FROM AN INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNER.
SO THAT REQUIREMENT FOR 100% PARTICIPATION IS NOT RECOMMENDED TO CHANGE.
AND FINALLY, UM, STAFF WILL BE WORKING ON A STRATEGIC OUTREACH PLAN TO IMPROVE ACCESS TO, TO THE PROGRAM, AND THAT INCLUDES, UM, MAPPING OUR EXISTING LANDMARKS CONTRIBUTORS TO HISTORIC DISTRICTS, AND ALSO POTENTIALLY ELIGIBLE PROPERTIES USING OUR AVAILABLE RESOURCES LIKE THE RACE AND SUBURBANIZATION HISTORIC CONTEXT STATEMENT, THE CITYWIDE HISTORIC CONTEXT STATEMENT, UM, THAT IS IN DRAFT FORM CURRENTLY.
AND WORKING WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM TO PROVIDE EDUCATION SUPPORT AND MULTILINGUAL ACCESS TO ENCOURAGE PROGRAM PARTICIPATION IN DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE CITY.
WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT POTENTIAL FOR IDENTIFYING PARTNERSHIPS WITH COMMUNITY, UM, ORGANIZATIONS TO, UH, IMPROVE OUR OUTREACH AND, UM, RESEARCH ON OPPORTUNITIES FOR FUNDING SOURCES THAT COULD SUPPORT LANDMARK DESIGNATION, UM, IN DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES.
SO WE ANTICIPATE THAT THAT WOULD BE A MULTI-YEAR EFFORT TO MAKE THE PROGRAM MORE ACCESSIBLE IN A VARIETY OF FORMATS TO DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE NOT PARTICIPATED IN THE PAST AND TO HELP, UH, INCREASE THE REACH OF THE MILLS ACT PROGRAM.
SO I HAVE BEEN TALKING FOR QUITE A WHILE.
UM,
UH, I, UH, WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU PARTICULARLY TO ALEJANDRO PLACENCIA, UM, FOR HIS STEWARDSHIP OF THE MILLS ACT PROGRAM AND HIS, UM, REALLY THOUGHTFUL RESEARCH AND LOOK AT THE CURRENT PROGRAM AND, AND RECOMMENDATIONS ON POTENTIAL UPDATES.
UM, AND ALSO WANTED TO, TO THANK GINA CASILLAS, WHO'S NOT HERE THIS EVENING, BUT WHO IS THE, THE PLANNER WHO PROCESSES ALL OF THE NEW MILLS ACT CONTRACTS EACH YEAR, AND DOES A REALLY EXCELLENT JOB OF EXPLAINING THE PROGRAM TO THE PUBLIC AND WORKING WITH PROPERTY OWNERS TO GET THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS.
UM, AND THEN THIS IS A STUDY SESSION, SO THERE'S NO ACTION FROM THE COMMISSION THIS EVENING.
THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FEEDBACK ON THE PROGRAM.
AFTER THIS STUDY SESSION, STAFF WILL REVIEW INPUT FROM THE COMMISSION AND FROM THE PUBLIC, AND WE WILL DRAFT RECOMMENDED UPDATES TO BRING BACK TO THE COMMISSION IN EARLY 2027.
SO ANY CHANGES THAT ARE MADE TO THE PROGRAM WOULD BE MADE WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE CULTURAL HERITAGE COMMISSION AND THEN ULTIMATELY WITH THE APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL.
THANK YOU FOR THAT EXCELLENT PRESENTATION, ALEJANDRO AND GINA AS WELL FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK ON THE PREVIOUS YEARS OF APPROVING CONTRACTS WITH THE HOMEOWNERS AND LANDMARK DESIGNATIONS.
UH, AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO TURN THIS OVER TO THE COMMISSION IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE PRESENTATION.
UM, THIS IS COMMISSIONER PIZZA.
UM, AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT WAS AN EXCELLENT PRESENTATION, AND THANK YOU.
I KNOW THAT TOOK A LOT OF WORK AND IT'S QUITE IMPRESSIVE.
SO THE VALUATION ON WHAT'S BEEN DETERMINED TO DATE, I'M ASSUMING THAT'S CHANGED OVER TIME BECAUSE OF PROPERTY VALUES.
HOW OFTEN IS THAT REVISITED? I'M CURIOUS.
UM, AND THEN THERE WAS A QUES THERE WAS A COMMENT THAT, UM, IT COULD EXCEED THOSE AMOUNTS IF IT'S AN EXCEPTION, EXCEPTIONAL ARCHITECTURAL, UH, MERIT OR, OR, OR SOMETHING.
AND MY QUESTION TO THAT IS WHAT DEFINES THAT? HOW DO, WHAT ARE THE PARAMETERS OF EXCEPTIONAL? SURE.
UM, SO THE, UM, VALUATION LIMITS ARE CHANGED, UH, EVERY APPLICATION CYCLE.
UH, IT'S TIED TO THE A CONSUMER PRICE INDEX.
SO THOSE, THOSE NUMBERS DO MOVE.
AND SINCE THE START OF THE PROGRAM, UH, THEY'VE ACTUALLY, SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS OR VALUATION LIMITS WERE ACTUALLY UNDER A MILLION DOLLARS.
SO NOW THAT IT'S AT 1.7 FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES, IT'S, UH, IT'S A PRETTY REMARKABLE DIFFERENCE.
UM, THE SECOND PART OF THAT QUESTION, I'M SORRY, THAT WAS, CAN YOU REMIND ME AGAIN, COMMISSIONER, WHAT DEFINES THE EXCEPTION? SOMETHING THAT WOULD GO BEYOND THE SURE VALUATION? UM, SO A WHILE BACK, I THINK MAYBE SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS, UM, MIGHT REMEMBER THIS ONE, BUT, UM, THE FRANK HOUSE, UH, IS A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT.
SO THAT'S THE, UM, ED EDWARD KILLINGSWORTH HOUSE, UM, UH, OVER IN NAPLES.
UH, IT'S, IT'S REALLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT, UH, MID-CENTURY BUILDINGS THAT WE HAVE, UM,
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IN THE CITY.UH, SO THAT ONE WAS INELIGIBLE, UM, BECAUSE OF THE VALUATION.
UH, IT WAS ALSO OUTSIDE OF AN HISTORIC DISTRICT.
AND SO THINGS LIKE THAT ARE, ARE SORT OF AN EXTREME EXAMPLE WHERE WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, AN ARCHITECTURAL GEM, UH, THAT POPS UP FROM TIME TO TIME THAT IS INELIGIBLE.
UH, BUT THERE ARE OTHER EXAMPLES THAT MIGHT TIE BACK TO, UM, CULTURAL HISTORY OR SOMETHING THAT IS AT RISK FOR DEMOLITION.
SO, UM, THAT'S SORT OF A BIG PICTURE EXAMPLE OF HOW TO THINK ABOUT IT OR LOOK AT IT.
UM, I ALSO WAS CURIOUS IF YOU MOVE TO THIS EVERY OTHER YEAR CONCEPT OF PROVIDING THE MILLS ACT ON THE OFF YEARS, YOU TALKED ABOUT, UM, WORKING WITH THE EXISTING CONTRAST CONTRACTS.
I'M FOLLOWING UP, WOULD THAT OFF YEAR STILL PROVIDE A WORKSHOP FOR PEOPLE? WOULD YOU BE STILL PROVIDING THAT WORKSHOP EVERY YEAR SO PEOPLE WOULD AT LEAST HAVE A GOOD JUMPSTART MM-HMM
FOR THE YEAR THAT IT WOULD BE SUPPLYING? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S, UM, AN OPPORTUNITY WE COULD LOOK INTO AS WE STARTED TO IMAGINE WHAT A TWO YEAR CYCLE WOULD LOOK LIKE, IT TAKES US A FULL 12 MONTHS TO GET THROUGH THE PROCESS EACH YEAR, RIGHT? LIKE, WE'RE STILL FINISHING THE, UM, EXECUTION OF CONTRACTS THAT WERE APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL LAST MONTH THAT YOU ALL RECOMMENDED IN JUNE, THAT WE BEGAN LAST DECEMBER WITH A PRESS RELEASE ON.
SO PART OF THE IDEA WITH A TWO YEAR CYCLE IS WE COULD SPREAD IT OUT A LITTLE BIT TO GIVE A LITTLE MORE TIME, UM, AND BACK AND FORTH.
AND SO WE HAVEN'T COME UP WITH EXACTLY WHAT THAT WORKSHOP WOULD LOOK LIKE AND WHEN, UM, BUT OUR THINKING IS, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW THAT TIMEFRAME IS SO COMPRESSED WHEN WE HAVE TO OPEN AND CLOSE IT IN ORDER TO MAKE IT TO THE TWO HEARING BODIES AND EXECUTE THE CONTRACTS ALL WITHIN ONE YEAR.
UM, THAT THERE COULD BE MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT OUTREACH TO YOUR POINT.
AND ALSO MORE TIME FOR APPLICANTS TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE BEST APPLICATION POSSIBLE.
'CAUSE SOMETIMES IT CAN BE A REAL RUSH TO TRY TO GET THAT ALL DONE IN THOSE FIRST COUPLE MONTHS OF THE YEAR.
SO I THINK THAT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION.
IT IS ALWAYS A PUSH TO GET
UM, AND THEN, UH, UH, 1120, OH, UM, YOU MENTIONED, UH, THE LIMITING, UM, THE CONTRACT TO 20 YEARS.
UM, THOSE THAT HAVE ALREADY ENTERED CONTRACTS IN PERPETUITY, HOW WOULD THAT WORK? UH, WOULD THOSE BE STILL UPHELD OR THEY WILL BE CHANGED OR ENDED OR RENEWED, OR HOW WILL THAT WORK? I'M CURIOUS.
YEAH, SO I'M GONNA GIVE AN OUTLINE AND IF THE ATTORNEY HAS A DIFFERENT OPINION, SHE CAN, SHE CAN WEIGH IN.
BUT, UM, UNDER THE STATE LAW, THE CONTRACTS AUTOMATICALLY RENEW EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
SO YOU ALWAYS HAVE 10 YEARS MORE LEFT.
UM, AND SO, SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS SPECIFIC TO NEW CONTRACTS TO, FROM THE BEGINNING SET THE EXPECTATION THAT IT WOULD BE A 20 YEAR TERM, BUT ALSO TO BEGIN THE NON-RENEWAL PROCESS AFTER YEAR 10.
UM, AND THEN ON EXISTING CONTRACTS, STAFF HAVE BEEN DOING WORK TO ANALYZE, ARE WE STILL GETTING AN APPROPRIATE LEVEL OF WORK PROGRAM FOR WHAT THE TAX INCENTIVE IS? UM, UH, IT'S MORE OF A CASE BY CASE ANALYSIS TO SEE.
WE'VE EVEN HAD, UM, EXISTING CONTRACT, UM, RECIPIENTS COME TO US TO SAY WE WANNA END THIS PROCESS.
BUT IT IS A, A MANY YEAR PROCESS TO DO THAT.
SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS FOCUSED ON MOVING FORWARD, BUT IT WOULD ALSO GIVE US SOME CAPACITY WITH THIS TWO YEAR CYCLE TO FOCUS MORE ON WHERE ELSE NON-RENEWAL WOULD MAKE SENSE.
AND THEN, SORRY, MY LAST QUESTION, UM, IN TERMS OF THE A HUNDRED PERCENT FOR CONDOMINIUMS, UM, I, I'D BE CURIOUS WHAT THE, THE CONTRACTS WE HAVE WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE THE A HUNDRED PERCENT, THE MILLS ACT IS NOT AT A HUNDRED PERCENT CONDO OWNERS RIGHT NOW, AND THOSE CHALLENGES, UM, I, I WOULD JUST WANNA AS AN IDEA SAY, DOES IT MAKE SENSE ONLY KNOWING THAT ONE OF THE CONDOMINIUMS THAT DID TRY TO GET A MILLS ACT THIS YEAR HAD ONE OWNER THAT DIDN'T, UM, UH, WANT TO DO IT.
UM, IS IT WORTH SAYING 100% MINUS ONE OR 100% MINUS TWO, UH, OWNERS OR, OR SOMETHING THAT AT LIVES AT LEAST GIVES AN OUT, UH, TO ONE OR TWO OWNERS THAT ARE HOLDOUTS? UM, AND I DON'T KNOW THE RAMIFICATIONS OF THAT, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING IF THAT'S SOMETHING TO EXPLORE AND I'M WELCOME TO ANY OTHER IDEAS TOO,
YEAH, WE CAN CONTINUE TO TAKE FEEDBACK ON THAT.
UM, I THINK MARISSA OUTLINED STAFF STILL CONTINUES TO RECOMMEND THAT 100% THRESHOLD BECAUSE OF THE CHALLENGES FROM SOME OF OUR OLDER CONTRACTS THAT ARE NOT 100% AS WELL AS LOOKING AT WHAT OTHER CITIES DO.
UM, AND THEN THE SPECIFIC CHALLENGE WITH THE APPLICATION THAT CAME FORWARD THIS YEAR WAS IN ADDITION TO NOT HAVING 100% WE HAD IN WRITING AN OBJECTION, UM, FROM SOMEONE.
SO, UH, WE DO HAVE SOME LEGAL CONCERNS WITH ENTERING INTO A CONTRACT IN THAT
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SCENARIO.HI, THIS IS COMMISSIONER BODAK.
I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON THE NON-RENEWALS.
UM, I AM AWARE THAT, THAT YOU DO HAVE SOME OLDER ONES THAT HAVE, UH, VAGUE WORK PROGRAMS. AND SO IS IT FEASIBLE FOR YOU TO TELL US GENERALLY HOW MANY CONTRACTS ARE IN PLACE THAT HAVE BEEN IN PLACE FOR LONGER THAN 20 YEARS? AND, UH, I WOULD ENCOURAGE AND SUPPORT, UH, THE OLDER CONTRACTS, UH, NO LONGER BEING IN EFFECT, UH, PARTICULARLY IF THEY DID NOT HAVE VERY STRONG WORK PROGRAMS. MY SECOND POINT ON THAT IS, UH, YOU HAVE SEEN, I'M SURE A VARIETY OF WORK PROGRAMS, UH, AND I'M WONDERING IF THERE COULD BE A STANDARDIZED TEMPLATE OF REQ OR REQUIREMENTS OR EVEN A CHECKLIST OF EXPECTATIONS IN A WORK PROGRAM THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE PUBLIC AND WOULD BE WORTHY OF A 20 YEAR CONTRACT.
UM, AND THAT COULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE EXPECTATION THAT AT THE END OF 20 YEARS, WELL, AT THE END OF 10 YEARS, REALLY, UH, THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE EXPECTED TO BE COMPLETED.
AND SO SOMEBODY COULD DO IT ALL IN YEAR TWO, OR SOMEBODY COULD DO IT ALL IN YEAR NINE, BUT IF THEY DIDN'T GET IT ALL DONE IN YEAR 10, THERE IS AN EXPECTATION THAT IT'S DONE.
UM, SO I, I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF, AGAIN, THERE'S A LOT OF VARIETY IN THE WORK PROGRAMS THAT YOU RECEIVE.
IT MAY BE TOO DIFFICULT TO DO THIS, BUT IF THERE'S A WAY TO AT LEAST STANDARDIZE SOME OF THE EXPECTATIONS OF WHAT WE WANTED TO ACHIEVE IN THE PROGRAM, THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY ALSO MAKE IT EASIER FOR APPLICANTS, UH, WHO MAY NOT NECESSARILY KNOW HOW TO CREATE A WORK PROGRAM.
THIS IS A QUESTION I THINK, UH, SO YOU HAVE A, A ROLLING TENURE CONTRACT, BUT YOU ONLY HAVE A ONE WORK PROGRAM.
IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RENEW OR REQUIRE A RENEWED WORK PROGRAM FOR THE SECOND 20 YEARS? AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, UH, IS DOABLE? AND THEN MY LAST STATEMENT IS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY TO DO THIS, UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN INSPECTIONS OCCUR, YOU KNOW, WORD OF MOUTH AND GOOD PRACTICES EVERY FIVE YEARS.
UH, BUT THAT'S VERY DIFFICULT IF THE PROPERTY OWNER IS NOT, YOU KNOW, IS WAITING UNTIL YEAR NINE TO DO ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS AND HASN'T REALLY DONE ANYTHING.
UM, IS, BUT IS THERE A, A WAY THAT YOU COULD, UM, REQUIRE A ONE-TIME PAYMENT FOR AN INSPECTION TO REDUCE THE COST TO STAFF THINKING ABOUT THAT AS A, UM, COST GENERATOR? I KNOW THAT WILL BE CONTROVERSIAL.
UH, SO THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FOR YOU.
AND, UM, I'LL TAKE IT IN REVERSE ORDER.
'CAUSE, UM, AND JUST IN THE PAST COUPLE YEARS, WE HAVE HAD, WE HAVE ADDED AN INSPECTION FEE TO OUR FEE SCHEDULE TO ALLOW US TO COST RECOVER FOR THOSE INSPECTIONS BECAUSE PRI PRIOR TO THAT, TO YOUR POINT, THERE WAS NO WAY FOR THAT.
IT STILL TAKES STAFF TIME AND EFFORT TO DO IT, BUT AT LEAST WE HAVE THAT OPTION ON THE TABLE.
UM, AND I THINK, UH, YOUR POINT ABOUT STANDARDIZATION AND SOME TEMPLATE AND OPTIONS, WE'VE, WE'VE MADE SOME PROGRESS IN THAT, BUT I THINK THERE'S MORE WE COULD DO AND WE CAN COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION WITH MORE.
UM, IN THE COUPLE OF YEARS THAT WE DID PAUSE THE PROGRAM AND EARLY CID WE ALSO, UM, UH, REACHED OUT TO EXISTING CONTRACT HOLDERS WITH A REQUEST FOR UPDATED WORK PLANS, UM, AND, UM, EVIDENCE OF THEIR PROGRESS.
SO LET ME, UH, TURN IT OVER TO STAFF TO SEE IF THEY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD ON THE OTHER QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS YOU HAD, INCLUDING THAT ONE.
UM, THIS IS ALEJANDRO, UH, FROM THE STAFF DESK.
UH, YEAH, SO WE DID START WITH, UM, UH, DOING SOME, UH, LETTERS, UH, JUST TO KIND OF DO AN INITIAL TAKE ON IT.
UM, A LOT OF WHAT WE DID FIND FROM IT WAS THAT,
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UH, A LOT OF PROPERTIES, UH, DID TURN OVER OVER TIME.UH, SO IT WAS NEW OWNERS THAT, UH, PURCHASED A PROPERTY, UH, THAT WERE STILL INTERESTED IN DOING WORK.
UH, THERE WERE ALSO PROPERTIES THAT, UM, BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE IN OWNERSHIP, UM, WERE STILL, UM, SEEING A TAX REDUCTION.
I THINK WHAT, WHEN WE INITIALLY DID A LOT OF THIS WORK, WE TARGETED, UH, BUILDINGS THAT, UH, OR PROPERTIES THAT, UM, UH, WERE NO LONGER RECEIVING A TAX REDUCTION.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE FOUND, UH, IN OUR SORT OF RESEARCH AND FIGURING STUFF OUT.
UM, THERE WAS ALSO SOME RESISTANCE TO ALSO NOT, UM, GIVING UP A CONTRACT.
SO YEAH, WE FOUND OF QUITE A FEW THINGS, UH, ON THIS ONE.
AND, AND THEN TO THIS SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT HOW MANY CONTRACTS ARE MORE THAN 20 YEARS OLD AT THIS POINT? SO THE CONTRACTS THAT PREDATE THAT PAUSE IN 2006, SO 20 YEARS AT THIS POINT, UH, ARE 37 TOTAL.
UM, AND THEN I, I THINK I ALSO HEARD A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, REQUIRING A SECOND 10 YEAR REHABILITATION PLAN, UH, IN THESE CONTRACTS.
SO THE, UM, CURRENT AND NEWER CONTRACTS INCLUDE A CONTRACT PROVISION THAT REQUIRES THAT ADDITIONAL REHABILITATION PLAN, BUT THE OLDER CONTRACTS DON'T NECESSARILY INCLUDE THAT PROVISION.
SO THAT'S PART OF OUR CONSIDERATION RELATED TO HOW TO MANAGE THOSE OLDER PROGRAMS AS WELL.
AND, AND ONE LAST QUESTION I FORGOT.
AND THE, AND YOU TRIGGERED THAT, MY THOUGHT ON THAT, FOR THE NON-RENEWAL, YOUR POWERPOINT SAYS THAT THE CITY OR THE PROPERTY OWNER MAY REQUEST TO NOT RENEW THE CONTRACT.
IF THE CITY REQUESTS TO NOT RENEW THE CONTRACT.
IS IT A UNILATERAL REQUEST, OR MUST IT BE, UH, BOTH PARTIES? IT IS NOT UNILATERAL IN THE SENSE THAT THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPEAL, UM, THAT DECISION AND, AND THAT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME DUE PROCESS FOR THE HOLDER OF THE CONTRACT.
AND, UM, SO THAT MEANS THAT THEY WOULD APPEAL IT TO A BOARD AND THEN MAYBE THE CITY COUNCIL, AND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL THEN HAS THE ULTIMATE DECISION? IS THAT HOW IT CORRECT.
SO, UM, I'M, UM, THE QUESTION I HAVE IS ON THE NEW FOCUS OF THE MILLS ACT.
SO TRADITIONAL, OUR TRADITIONAL ROLE OF THE CHC HAS BEEN TO WEIGH IN WITH THE HOPE OF PROTECTING EXISTING TANGIBLE HERITAGE AND CHARACTER.
IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ARE CHANGING OUR FOCUS TO LESS TANGIBLE ITEMS LIKE AFFORDABILITY AND MAYBE CHANGING OUR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE, THE CULTURAL HERITAGE ASPECTS MEAN.
SO I JUST WANTED TO KNOW, AS, AS CHC, THIS NEW CHANGE, HOW ARE WE TO EVALUATE THIS SO THAT WE CAN HELP GUIDE THESE DECISIONS? YEAH, I WANNA FIRST, UH, NOTE THAT THESE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ADDITIONAL PRIORITY CRITERIA.
IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE WOULD MOVE AWAY FROM OTHER ONES NECESSARILY, BUT EXPAND WHAT WE LOOK AT IN TERMS OF PRIORITIZATION.
I THINK IT REFLECTS A BROADER, YOU KNOW, UH, CHANGE IN THE FIELD RELATED TO, UM, UH, CULTURAL PRESERVATION WORK TO LOOK NOT JUST AT, FOR EXAMPLE, ARCHITECTURE, BUT TO HAVE THAT BROADER LOOK AT, UM, OUR FULL CULTURAL HISTORY.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IN A PARALLEL, UH, FORM OUR WORK ON UPDATING THE CONTEXT STATEMENT, INCLUDING THE RACE AND SUBURBANIZATION CONTEXT STATEMENT IS, IS PART OF THAT.
UH, AND WE'RE SEEING THAT THROUGHOUT OTHER JURISDICTIONS IN THE STATE AND COUNTRY.
UM, SO CERTAINLY APPRECIATE ALL FEEDBACK FROM COMMISSIONERS ON WHAT YOU THINK IS APPROPRIATE FROM, UM, A PRIORITIZATION CRITERIA, BUT TRYING TO REFLECT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE FIELD AND THEN THE POLICY DIRECTION WE CONTINUE TO GET FROM DECISION MAKERS HERE LOCALLY.
SO WITH THAT SAID, UM, THE AFFORDABILITY ITEM DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT, IT, I, I DON'T SEE HOW THAT'S IN OUR PURVIEW.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR, FOR US.
IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE TRYING TO, TO CREATE ADDITIONAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND USING MILLS ACT AS A WAY OF DOING THAT.
AND I I I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT'S, I DON'T, I, I, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.
I'M NOT SURE IT SHOULD BE IN UNDER US.
SO I THINK THERE ARE, LIKE, ONE OF THE EXISTING CRITERIA THAT THE COUNCIL ADOPTED IN 2015 AT THE RECOMMENDATION OF COMMISSION WAS TO LOOK AT, UM, LOCAL, UH, USE OF LOCAL BUSINESSES, FOR EXAMPLE, IN YOUR CONTRACT AND WORK.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT REFLECTS BROADER DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL IN TERMS
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OF, UM, HOW THEY WANNA SEE, UM, CITY RESOURCES SPENT.SO I THINK THIS WOULD BE ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF, UM, HOUSING IS ONE OF THE CITY'S TOP THREE, UM, PRIORITIES WITH THE FOCUS ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UM, AND I THINK REFLECTS SORT OF THE BROADER, UM, LEVEL OF PRIORITIES WE'RE GIVEN.
I WOULD ALSO ARGUE THAT WE ARE A CITY WITH A LONG HISTORY OF NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, ONE OF THE LARGEST IN THE REGION.
UM, AND THAT OUR ABILITY TO HAVE AN INCLUSIVE, UH, COMMUNITY, UH, A DIVERSE AND INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY, UM, REALLY IN PART REFLECTS THE NEED FOR THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SO CERTAINLY WE CAN HEAR, UM, EVERYONE'S FEEDBACK AND THOUGHTS ON THAT, BUT IN OUR ANALYSIS AND IN BASING IT OFF OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING OTHER JURISDICTIONS DOING AS WELL, WE DID NOT SEE THEM AS, UM, INCONGRUENT.
UM, SO I, I I WANTED TO JUST ASK ALSO ABOUT, UM, PUBLIC BENEFIT.
UM, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE TO YOU GUYS? YEAH, I THINK IT'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
UM, I THINK IT IS A FOCUS ON HISTORIC PROPERTIES THAT HAVE SOME COMPONENT OF PUBLIC ACCESS THAT ARE EITHER USED FOR EXISTING COMMUNITY GATHERINGS OR, UM, HAVE AN EXISTING HISTORIC OR A LONGSTANDING BUSINESS, UH, IN THE PROPERTY.
AND I THINK WE CAN ALSO THINK ABOUT IT MORE EXPANSIVELY IN TERMS OF, UM, PRIORITIES FOR PROPERTIES THAT ARE PRESERVING COMMUNITY CHARACTER AND THAT THE PROPERTY ITSELF AND ALSO THE WORK PLAN THAT IS PART OF THE MILLS ACT CONTRACT WILL SUPPORT THAT PRESERVATION OF COMMUNITY CHARACTER THAT CAN BE ENJOYED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND BY RESIDENTS.
SO IS THIS MORE OF A, UM, SORT OF A NEIGHBORHOOD ASPECT THAT PEOPLE CAN, CAN, UH, ENJOY THE CHARACTER? ARE WE, ARE WE SOMEHOW ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO OPEN TO PARTICIPATE IN SOME KIND OF OPEN HOUSE, HISTORIC OPEN HOUSE? I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT PUBLIC BENEFIT COULD BE SHOWN.
UH, WE EVEN THINK ABOUT IT WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT DESIGNATING HISTORIC RESOURCES, RIGHT? TO THINK ABOUT IS IT EVEN VISIBLE FROM THE STREET? CAN THE PUBLIC SEE IT AND APPRECIATE, UM, ITS VALUE? UH, SOME OF THE WAYS OTHER CITIES HAVE LOOKED AT PUBLIC BENEFIT INCLUDE THE FOCUS ON LEGACY BUSINESSES, UM, THAT THE LA PROGRAM HAS.
IF YOU REMEMBER, UM, THE CONTRACT CYCLE, I THINK IT WAS, UH, UH, TWO YEARS AGO FOR, UH, UH, THE BREAKERS HOTEL.
WE REQUIRED PUBLIC ACCESS AND TOURS, UM, AS, AS AN ADDITIONAL BENEFIT TO, UH, THE COMMUNITY.
SO I THINK IT'S GONNA DEPEND ON THE PROPERTY TYPE AND THEIR WILLINGNESS.
WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT, UH, A PRIVATE HOME WOULD HAVE TO BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC NECESSARILY, BUT HAVING SOME CRITERIA THAT HELPS US WEIGH WHAT'S THE VALUE TO THE PUBLIC, GIVEN THE PUBLIC RESOURCE GOING INTO THE TAX BREAK, UM, IS THE IDEA BEHIND IT.
I, I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING HOW THIS DEVELOPS.
THAT TRIGGERED ME GOING ROUND TWO HERE.
UH, SO COMMISSIONER BODAK, I HAVE A, A COUPLE OF STATEMENTS AND COMMENTS, I WOULD SAY.
UM, SO COULD AFFORDABILITY MEAN SOMETHING LIKE YOU GET AN EXTRA POINT IF YOU ARE, YOUR APPLICATION IS FOR A BUNGALOW COURT BECAUSE THAT TRIGGERS NATURALLY ACCORDING ITS RENTAL HOUSING, NOT NEC IN, IN A CITY THAT HAS A LOT OF RENTAL HOUSING.
THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, A, A, A WAY TO A CONTINUE TO SUPPORT NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THIS, THAT'S HOW I'M THINKING OF AFFORDABILITY.
ALSO, PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, OLDER RENTAL PROPERTY BUILDINGS THAT MAYBE ARE NOT LANDMARKED, UM, BUT THAT ARE MORE THAN 50 YEARS OLD NOW.
UH, COULD ALSO, PARTICULARLY IF THEY ARE IN LOW RESOURCE AREAS, IS THAT HOW YOU MAY BE THINKING ABOUT AFFORDABILITY? YEAH, I THINK THOSE ARE A COUPLE OF HELPFUL OPTIONS.
UM, WE SAW THE MODEL IN LA, BUT AGAIN, WE KNOW THEY'VE BEEN ON PAUSE AND, AND HAVE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BEST ADMINISTER.
UM, OBVIOUSLY IT'S, IT'S HELPFUL TO THE CITY IF WE'RE ABLE TO FORMALLY COUNT THEM AS AFFORDABLE UNITS, BUT I THINK ANYTHING HELPS.
AND AGAIN, THE NATURALLY OCCURRING PIECE IS REALLY IMPORTANT, UM, FOR US.
SO I THINK THOSE ARE A COUPLE EXAMPLES THAT WE CAN TAKE BACK AND, AND DO SOME FURTHER ANALYSIS ON TO COME FORWARD WITH A MORE FORMAL RECOMMENDATION BACK TO THE BODY.
DOES THE CITY STILL HAVE SINGLE ROOM OCCUPANCY BUILDINGS? I THINK, YEAH.
I'M TRYING TO THINK OF AN EXAMPLE,
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BUT I KNOW WE HAVE AT LEAST ONE OR TWO.SO THAT COULD CLEARLY BE AN EXAMPLE OF, YOU KNOW, AN AFFORDABLE TYPE PROJECT.
UM, RELATED TO PUBLIC BENEFIT, I DO THINK HOUSING STABILITY IS A SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC BENEFIT, UH, THAT DOES HELP TO PREVENT, UH, GENTRIFICATION, UH, BUT STILL PROVIDING, UH, UPLIFTING A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT, THAT, UM, MAY, MAY BE IN A LOWER RESOURCE AREA.
UH, COMMUNITY CHARACTER I THINK IS SIGNIFICANT.
UM, IN MY, UH, PRIVATE LIFE, I AM WORKING IN A COMMUNITY THAT HAS HAD A SIGNIFICANT LOSS OF COMMUNITY CHARACTER AND IT IS A, A REAL ISSUE, UH, THAT I THINK IS WORTH SAVING, UH, FOR, FOR CERTAIN COMMUNITIES.
AND SO I, I DO THINK THAT COMMUNITY CHARACTER IN PARTICULAR IS A LEGITIMATE PUBLIC BENEFIT PROVIDED IT IS NOT UTILIZED TO PREVENT, UM, UH, IMPROVEMENT.
RIGHT? UH, THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.
THAT IT ISN'T THAT COMMUNITY CHARACTER IS NOT USED FOR EXCLUSIONARY PURPOSES.
I WOULD, I WOULD VIEW COMMUNITY MAINTAINING AND RETAINING COMMUNITY CHARACTER WOULD BE A PUBLIC BENEFIT, PROVIDED IT IS NOT DONE IN AN EXCLUSIONARY MANNER.
COMMISSIONER BODAK, UH, COMM, THIS IS COMMISSIONER PIZZA AGAIN.
UM, KIND OF PIGGYBACKING ON SOME OF THESE COMMENTS, UM, I'M CURIOUS IN TERMS OF THE RENTALS THAT WOULD PERHAPS BE, UM, GIVEN A MILLS ACT, I WOULD ASSUME THAT'S TO THE OWNER WHO WOULD BE APPLYING.
ARE YOU SEEING THAT THE RENTER WOULD BENEFIT OR THERE WOULD BE STIPULATION TO THE RENTERS THAT WOULD BENEFIT FROM THAT SOMEHOW IN THEIR, IN THEIR LEASE OR RENT? IS THAT HOW YOU'RE SEEING THAT? I JUST WANNA CLARIFY THAT.
UM, THAT'S HOW THE LA PROGRAM IS CURRENTLY ORGANIZED, IS THAT YOU WOULD BE HAVING THE OWNER COMMIT TO THAT AFFORDABILITY LEVEL FOR SOME PROPORTION OF RENTERS.
IT DOESN'T MEAN EVERY UNIT, BUT SOME PROPORTION IS HOW THEY HAVE IT LAID OUT.
UM, BUT I THINK WE'RE ALSO HEARING SOME OTHER FEEDBACK ABOUT, THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO THINK ABOUT IT.
I THINK WE WOULD WANT SOME KIND OF UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THAT BENEFIT WOULD HELP ACTUALLY PRESERVE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING WE KNOW, UM, OR THE, THE AFFORDABILITY TO THE ULTIMATE RENTER, UM, WHO'S IMPACTED BY, UM, THE NEED FOR HOUSING.
UM, SORRY, THE LIGHTING IS
UM, BUT, UM, THE, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO KEEP WORKING THROUGH.
WE KNOW THAT GENERALLY SPEAKING ECONOMICALLY, IF, IF THERE'S A LOWER COST FOR THE OWNER, WE WOULD EXPECT THAT TO, TO RESULT IN A LOWER RENT.
BUT WE WOULD WANT SOME LEVEL OF UNDERSTANDING OR ASSURANCE OF HOW THAT WOULD HAPPEN, I THINK TO, UH, SEE THAT AS A FORMAL BENEFIT.
YEAH, AND I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF THAT CONCEPT.
I THINK THAT THAT MAKES SENSE, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE REHABILITATING A A A A LAND, YOU KNOW, A LANDMARK OR SOME, UM, HISTORIC, UH, FEATURES IN BUILDINGS, UM, ALSO WITH THE SHARED HISTORY AND, UM, I THINK YOU SAID PUBLIC ACCESS AND EDUCATION AND IN EXPANDING THAT, UM, AS IT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT HERE, UM, FOR COMMUNITIES, ET CETERA.
ARE YOU SEEING, 'CAUSE THAT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD FALL INTO THAT TWO STRUCTURES AND KIND OF THE, THE LAST BULLET POINT OF THE BREAKDOWN OF THE DIFFERENT ELIGIBILITIES OF QUANTITIES OF EACH, YOU KNOW, SINGLE FAMILY MULTI-USE, THAT THOSE CURRENTLY COULD FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY.
ARE YOU THINKING OF EXPANDING IT OR CREATING NEW CATEGORIES OR HOW, HOW IS THAT GONNA WORK SPECIFICALLY IN TERMS OF WHERE THE PUBLIC BENEFIT WOULD FALL? I THINK IT WOULD BE ONE OF A SORT OF MENU OF CRITERIA THAT YOU COULD GET PRIORITY CONSIDERATION FOR.
UM, IS THAT HOW YOU WOULD DESCRIBE IT? YEAH.
AND SO IT, BECAUSE, BECAUSE IT MAY BE MORE APPLICABLE TO SOME BUILDING TYPOLOGIES THAN OTHERS, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA EXCLUDE, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE FROM COMING UP WITH A WAY FOR THERE TO BE A PUBLIC BENEFIT REGARDLESS OF THE PROPERTY TYPE.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I THINK SO.
I JUST, I, SO THEY WOULD STILL GO THROUGH THE APPLICATION PROCESS, BUT THEY WOULD, THE HIGHLIGHT WOULD BE NOT NECESSARILY AN ARCHITECTURAL, UM, HISTORY, BUT, UH, THIS SHARED HISTORY OR, OR A COMMUNITY ASPECT.
AND THEY WOULD NOT BE DISCOURAGED TO SUBMIT.
BUT WOULD THEY STILL BE, LIKE, IF IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE, THEY'D STILL BE IN THAT CATEGORY OF WHATEVER IS STIPULATED PROPERTIES? I SEE.
I JUST WANTED SOME CLARIFICATION HOW, HOW
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THAT ALL WILL KIND OF WORK.UH, CHAIRMAN MCG GUAN, UH, IT'S, IT'S VERY REFRESHING TO, UM, APPROACH THIS IMPORTANT, UM, ACT, MILLS ACT, YOU KNOW, FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
AND I HOPE THAT THE, UM, HISTORICAL DISTRICTS DO ENGAGE THEIR MEMBERS, UH, TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS.
UM, UH, ANY CHANGES THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
UH, I LIVE IN A HISTORICAL BUILDING, A LANDMARK, AS WELL AS ON A NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORICAL PLACES.
AND WE HAD TO APPLY AND GET APPROVAL FROM CITY COUNCIL TO CHANGE THE, THE RULING THAT A MULTI-UNIT CONDOMINIUM, UH, WAS NOT AFFORDED THE MILLS ACT CONTRACT UNTIL IT WAS CHANGED.
AND THIS WAS BACK IN THE NINETIES.
SO AGAIN, THE THINGS THAT THAT CAN CHANGE.
SO ONE THING THAT STOOD OUT TODAY WAS SEEING THE BREAKDOWN OF NOT ONLY THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS AND WHERE SOME OF THESE MILLS ACT CONTRACTS, UM, FLOURISH, AND OTHERS WHERE THERE ARE NO CONTRACTS.
AND, UH, WE TALK ABOUT, UH, THE BREAKDOWN.
WE TALK ABOUT EQUITY, WE TALK ABOUT HISTORICAL DISTRICTS.
UM, UH, WE TALK ABOUT DEMOGRAPHICS, YOU KNOW, IN, IN TERMS OF HOW DO WE ENGAGE OUR COMMUNITY? IS IT JUST THE SHORE AREA THAT BENEFITS FROM THIS CONTRACT? THE CAL HEIGHTS? UH, WE DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THE WEALTH, AS THEY SAY.
UH, THE APPLICATION CYCLE, I THOUGHT, UH, BY RE RE CHANGING IT TO EVERY OTHER YEAR, MAY PUT A PROPERTY OWNER AT A DISADVANTAGE, ONLY BECAUSE IF HE DOES ACQUIRE A PROPERTY, HE WOULD LIKE TO START CONSTRUCTION OR MAKE REHABIL REHABILITATION.
AND THAT IF, IF HE HAD TO WAIT AN ADDITIONAL YEAR, SOMETIMES THAT HE MAY NOT, UH, BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR THE MILLS ACT BECAUSE THE WORK WAS ALREADY DONE.
THAT IS ONE CONSIDERATION, UH, REGARDING A HUNDRED PERCENT PARTICIPATION.
UM, OUR BUILDING AT THE TIME, WE DID NOT HAVE A HUNDRED PERCENT PARTICIPATION OF 134 HOMEOWNERS.
UH, THERE WERE A FEW HOLDOUTS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME AS ALL THOSE HOMEOWNERS BENEFITED FROM IT, EVEN THE ONES THAT WERE HELD OUT.
BUT IF WE MAKE A STIPULATION SAYING THAT MAYBE NOT ONE, MAYBE NOT TWO, MAYBE FIVE.
BUT IF THEY ALSO COLLECT, UH, CHECK THE BOXES OF, IT'S A LANDMARK DESIGNATED PROPERTY THAT ALSO MAY BE ON A NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORICAL PLACES THAT MAY ALSO GIVE THEM SOME WEIGHT TO HAVE THAT CONTRACT REVIEWED AND POSSIBLY APPROVED, UH, AUDIT INSPECTIONS.
AND I LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU ARE NOW, UM, ASSESSING A FEE FOR THAT VALUATION, JUST AS YOU WOULD FOR THE CONTRACT.
UM, 'CAUSE I'VE ALWAYS RUN INTO BOARDS WHERE THEY CHANGE THEIR DIRECTION ON WHERE THEY WANT TO SPEND THE MONEY ON THE, UH, RENOVATION, RENOVATION OF THE PROPERTY.
AND THINGS CAN CHANGE WITHOUT THE CITY KNOWING THAT THAT CONTRACT MAY HAVE BEEN ALTERED.
UH, AS FAR AS THE, THE ANNUAL RENEWAL AUTOMATIC RENEWALS, I THINK THAT TOO HAS TO BE SUBJECTED TO A LITTLE BIT MORE SCRUTINY, UH, PARTICULARLY ON THE OLDER CONTRACTS BECAUSE, UH, PEOPLE ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT, WHILE THAT THE CONTRACT PROBABLY SHOULD, UH, BE EXTENDED TO SOME OTHER RESOURCES IN THE COMMUNITY.
UH, PUBLIC BENEFIT I THINK IS TREMENDOUS.
IT KEEPS OUR COMMUNITY COHESIVE.
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE HISTORICAL DISTRICTS, I WAS SURPRISED THAT THERE ARE SOME HISTORICAL DISTRICTS THAT HAVE NOT PARTICIPATED IN THE MILLS ACT CONTRACT.
MAYBE BECAUSE THE CON THE DISTRICTS ARE TOO SMALL.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME AS IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE, IT HAVE AN OUTREACH SO THAT THEY KNOW AS, AS WE HAVE BEEN DOING IN THE PAST, UH, WITH, WITH, UM, UH, WITH, UM, MEETINGS AS WELL AS, UH, WITH THE CITY SENDING OUT, UM, NOTICES REGARDING THAT.
BUT, UM, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT, UH, SOME OF THE LOW INCOME AREAS THAT ARE PRIMARY RENTER AREAS, THAT THE INCENTIVE WOULD BE FOR THE LANDLORD TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THOSE PROPERTIES WITHOUT AFFECTING THE, UM, THE INDIVIDUAL RENTER, UH, IN TERMS OF IF HE'S A LOW INCOME RENTER, THAT THOSE BENEFITS TO HIM AND HIS PROPERTY VALUE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME HAS MAINTAINED, UH, THE CHARACTER AS WELL AS THE, THE INDIVIDUAL THAT IS RENTING THE UNITS.
UH, SO THOSE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF MY COMMENTS, BUT I DEFINITELY WANNA SEE MORE PARTICIPATION WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
UH, IT'S GREAT TO SEE A BLUEPRINT SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND BE MORE SUCCESSFUL.
UM, I, I CAN'T SEE HOW THE SAN DIEGO WOULD WORK WITH INDIVIDUAL CONDOMINIUM HOMEOWNERS ON A, ON A CONTRACT BASIS.
IT JUST SEEMS, UH, JUST BESIDES GETTING AN INDIVIDUAL CONTRACT FEE, BUT THE OVERALL MANAGEMENT OF EACH INDIVIDUAL CONTRACT, UH, SEEMS A LITTLE BIT BURDENSOME.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I APPRECIATE, UH, ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE IN TODAY'S MEETING, AND I DEFINITELY LOOK FORWARD TO, UM, YOU KNOW, BRINGING THIS
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FORWARD TO THE COUNCIL FOR THEIR, UH, RECOMMENDATION AND APPROVAL.IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER COMMENTS BY THE COMMISSION, WE'LL NOW OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT CHAIR.
WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER THAT SIGNED UP, JOE HARDING.
IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER MEMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AS WELL, PLEASE LINE UP AT THE PODIUM AT THIS TIME.
I'M REPRESENTING THE COOPER ARMS, A NATIONAL HISTORIC REGISTRY 1924 BUILDING WITH 159 INDIVIDUAL OWNED CONDOMINIUMS. OUR REQUEST IS SIMPLE.
WE ARE ASKING THE COMMISSION TO RECONSIDER THE A HUNDRED PERCENT PARTICIPATION REQUIREMENT AND RECOMMEND A MORE REASONABLE STANDARD THAT RECOGNIZES HOW CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATIONS ACTUALLY OPERATE UNDER CALIFORNIA DAVIS STERLING ACT AND OUR RECORDED CCNRS.
OUR ASSOCIATION HAS ESTABLISHED FRAMEWORK FOR MAKING DECISIONS, INCLUDING SUPER MAJORITY APPROVAL FOR SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS.
WE CAN AUTHORIZE MAJOR REPAIRS, BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS, AND PRESERVATION WORK WITHOUT REQUIRING EVERY ONE OF OUR 159 OWNERS TO AGREE.
IN FACT, THE CITY REQUIRES US TO SUBMIT THE CCNRS WHEN APPLYING FOR THE MILLS ACT.
IF OUR GOVERNING DOCUMENTS ALLOW US TO MAKE SIGNIFICANT DECISIONS ABOUT PRESERVING OUR BUILDING THROUGH A SUPER MAJORITY VOTE, WHY DOES THE CITY REQUIRE A HUNDRED PERCENT PARTICIPATION IN A PROGRAM DESIGNED TO SUPPORT THAT VERY PRESERVATION? AND THIS REQUIREMENT WASN'T ALWAYS IN PLACE.
THE A HUNDRED PERCENT, UH, CONDOMINIUM PARTICIPATION REQUIRE REQUIREMENT WAS INTRODUCED IN 2015.
BEFORE THAT CHANGE, THE CITY APPROVED PARCEL PARTICIPATION AT HISTORIC CONDOMINIUM BUILDINGS, INCLUDING THE LAFAYETTE, THE VILLA RIVIERA, AND ROSE TOWERS.
ONE OF THOSE IS ACTUALLY BELOW 25% PARTICIPATION.
AND I KNOW THIS BECAUSE I MANAGED THAT PROPERTY.
THESE ARE IMPORTANT, UH, PRECEDENTS.
THE CITY HAS PREVIOUSLY FOUND WAYS TO ADMINISTER MILLS ACT CONTRACTS WITHOUT REQUIRING O UH, EVERY OWNER TO PARTICIPATE.
LONG BEACH HAS REVISED ITS MILLS ACT PROGRAM NUMEROUS TIMES SINCE ITS INCEPTION, INCLUDING SIX OTHER ROUNDS OF CHANGES WE'VE IDENTIFIED.
WE ARE SIMPLY ASKING THE CITY TO CONSIDER ONE MORE CHANGE.
CONSIDER WHAT THE CURRENT REQUIREMENT MEANS FOR A BUILDING LIKE OURS.
EVEN IF NEARLY ALL OUR 159 OWNERS SUPPORTED PARTICIPATION MORE THAN 99%, ONE OWNER COULD PREVENT THE ENTIRE BUILDING FROM QUALIFYING.
WE UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO PROTECT INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS AND ENSURE THAT MILLS ACT OBLIGATIONS CAN BE ENFORCED.
BUT THOSE CONCERNS SHOULD BE ADDRESSED THROUGH THE APPROPRIATE AGREEMENTS, NOT BY AUTOMATICALLY EXCLUDING ENTIRE HISTORIC BUILDINGS.
WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COMMISSION TO RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY RECONSIDER THE UNANIMOUS PARTICIPATION REQUIREMENT.
RECOGNIZE PROPERLY AUTHORIZED HOA VOTING PROCEDURES AND ESTABLISH A WORKABLE ALTERNATIVE THAT PROTECTS INDIVIDUAL OWNERS.
THE MILLS ACT EXISTS TO ENCOURAGE HISTORIC PRESERVATION, NOT CREATE UNNECESSARY BARRIERS TO IT.
THE CITY HAS CHANGED THIS PROGRAM BEFORE.
WE'RE ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER IT AGAIN TONIGHT.
DURING THE PRESENTATION, IT WAS MENTIONED ABOUT ENGAGEMENT, ACCESS BEING SUSTAINABLE AND EQUITABLE.
PLEASE RECONSIDER THE A HUNDRED PERCENT.
DON'T ALLOW, DON'T ALLOW ONE HOMEOWNER TO HOLD US ALL HOSTAGE.
WE ARE DEDICATED TO PRESERVATION AND LOOK FORWARD TO AN EQUITABLE OPPORTUNITY.
YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? UH, TARA REIKI.
I NEED MY ADDRESS, MY HOME ADDRESS.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT NECESSARY TO PROVIDE YOUR ADDRESS TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT.
THANK YOU ALL, UM, TO THE COMMISSION AND TO CITY STAFF FOR TAKING THE TIME TO REVIEW THE MILLS ACT PROGRAM.
UM, I'M PRESIDENT OF THE CALIFORNIA HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND I'M A HISTORIC HOMEOWNER AND PRESERVATION IS SOMETHING I'M INCREDIBLY PASSIONATE ABOUT, AND I APPRECIATE THE CITY'S EFFORTS.
I DO HAVE A FEW CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS.
UM, MY BIGGEST, ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE IS THE PROPOSED 20 YEAR LIMIT ON THE MILLS ACT CONTRACT.
UM, HISTORIC PRESERVATION, YOU KNOW, IS A LIFELONG RESPONSIBILITY, NOT JUST A 20 YEAR PROJECT.
UM, THESE HOMES DON'T SUDDENLY BECOME LESS EXPENSIVE TO MAINTAIN AFTER 20 YEARS, IN FACT, QUITE THE OPPOSITE.
UM, BUT I DO AGREE THAT THERE SHOULD BE MORE, UH, STRINGENT INSPECTIONS TO THOSE THAT MAYBE ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF, UM, YOU KNOW, THE PROGRAM.
AND, UM, I DO THINK THAT THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS, ADJUSTMENTS WITHOUT PUTTING THAT CAP.
UM, I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS ONLY EVERY OTHER YEAR.
WE SHOULD BE ENCOURAGING PARTICIPATION, NOT CREATING ADDITIONAL OBSTACLES.
MY WORRY IS THAT IF WE DO THIS EVERY OTHER YEAR, IT ACTUALLY MAY DISCOURAGE, UM, PROPERTY OWNERS FROM, UM, ACTUALLY WANTING TO SIGN UP FOR THIS PROGRAM, APPLY FOR THE PROGRAM.
I ALSO DO THINK I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A MORE OF A COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS.
UM, THE CITY ESTIMATES APPROXIMATELY 400,000 IN ANNUAL, UH, GENERAL FUND PROPERTY TAX REVENUE REDUCTIONS.
YET I DO BELIEVE THAT LONG BEACH HAS APPROVED, YOU KNOW, MULTIMILLION DOLLAR TAX SHARING INCENTIVES TO ENCOURAGE PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT.
AND I UNDERSTAND WHY DEVELOPMENT
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IS IMPORTANT IN OUR CITY'S FUTURE.UM, BUT HISTORIC HOMEOWNERS ARE PRIVATE INVESTORS TOO.
THEY'RE SPENDING THEIR OWN MONEY PRESERVING THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ACTUALLY MAKE LONG BEACH REALLY SPECIAL.
WHY DO WE RECOGNIZE INCENTIVES FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT? UM, WHILE DISCUSSING HISTORIC PRESERVATION PRIMARILY AS LOST TAX REVENUE, UM, I THINK HISTORIC RESTORATION SUPPORTS LOCAL CONTRACTORS, SKILLED TRADESPEOPLE, CONTINUED INVESTMENT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
THOSE BENEFITS DESERVE SOME CONSIDERATION TOO.
UM, I DO FIND THE COMPARISONS INTERESTING, UM, WITH SAN DIEGO HAVING OVER 1500 MILS X CONTRACTS AND PASADENA HAVING APPROXIMATELY 380 BOTH MANAGE THEIR PROGRAMS WITHOUT IMPOSING A 20 YEAR LIMIT, PERHAPS LONG BEACH COULD EXPLORE AN ANNUAL CAP ON THE FINANCIAL IMPACT OF NEW CONTRACTS SIMILAR TO SAN DIEGO, RATHER THAN LIMITING HOW LONG HOMEOWNERS RECEIVE BENEFITS THAT COULD PROVIDE GREATER BUDGET PREDICTABILITY WHILE PROTECTING, UM, LONG-TERM PRESERVATION INCENTIVES.
I ALSO ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT EXPANDING ACCESS TO MORE COMMUNITIES, ESPECIALLY IN LOW RESOURCE AREAS, AND EVEN ENCOURAGE MORE MILLS ACT WORKSHOPS IN THESE AREAS.
I THINK PART OF THE REASON WHY, UM, WE DON'T HAVE AS MANY IS BECAUSE THERE'S JUST NOT A LOT OF AWARENESS ABOUT IT.
UM, SO I JUST WANT TO SAY HISTORIC PRESERVATION IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT PART OF LONG BEACH.
IT GIVES OUR NEIGHBORHOODS THEIR CHARACTER, TELLS OUR CITY'S STORY, AND CONNECTS GENERATIONS OF RESIDENTS TO THE PLACES WE CALL HOME.
I THINK WE CAN SUPPORT, UM, THIS IN A WAY WHERE IT MAKES SENSE FOR EVERYONE.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? IF NOT VIRTUALLY, IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FEATURE.
IF DIALING IN TELEPHONICALLY, PRESS STAR NINE NOW.
UM, THERE APPEARS TO BE ONE PERSON THAT WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, MAUREEN, YOU HAVE BEEN UNMUTED.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, I HAVE JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS AND I'M SUPER EXCITED TO TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT, UM, RECOGNIZING THAT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE ORIGINAL LOW TO MODERATE, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS FOUND IN OUR, UM, OLDER HOUSING STRUCTURES AND SOME OF OUR POOR NEIGHBORHOODS, IF YOU WILL.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, ALLOWING, I GUESS, AM I, IF I'M HEARING THIS RIGHT, AND MAYBE THIS COULD BE, UM, CONFIRMED, WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER CRITERION FOR THESE, UM, FOR ALLOWING THESE BUILDINGS AND PROPERTIES TO BE, WELL, THEY'D HAVE TO BE LANDMARKED FIRST AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, AND THEN CREATE, UH, CREATE, UH, AN APPLICATION FOR THE MILLS ACT.
SO WOULD THERE BE, UM, LESS STRINGENT CRITERION IN CERTAIN, UM, AREAS? UM, IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? AND UM, ALSO, IF PROPERTY OWNERS MAYBE THAT ARE OF RESIDENCES OR EVEN, UH, TRIPLEXES OR DUPLEXES ARE APPLYING FOR THE MILLS ACT AND THEY DO OPEN THEIR INTERIORS TO THE PUBLIC MAYBE ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR OR ON A REGULAR BASIS, WILL THAT BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT, UM, WHEN THEY MAKE THEIR APPLICATIONS? UM, I GUESS THOSE ARE MY TWO.
A LOT OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN COVERED TONIGHT, BUT THOSE ARE TWO MORE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
UH, THANK YOU, MAUREEN, FOR THOSE COMMENTS.
UH, WE'LL TAKE THEM INTO CONSIDERATION AND WE'LL ADDRESS THAT, UH, GOING FORWARD WITH THE REPORT, IF YOU COULD, MAYBE YOU CAN KINDLY PUT THAT IN WRITING SO THAT WE COULD SUBMIT THAT TO A STAFF.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENT, UH, PRESENTERS VIRTUALLY? YES.
WE HAVE ONE MORE, ONE MORE CALLER THAT WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT.
I LIVED IN, UM, IN A COUPLE HISTORIC BUILDINGS HERE DOWNTOWN, AND IN BOTH OF THE BUILDINGS WERE BEING HELD HOSTAGE BY ONE PERSON AND BY THREE PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT TO BE PARTICIPANTS IN THE PROGRAM.
THE A HUNDRED PERCENT BARRIER IS, IS JUST A, IT'S A VERY HUGE HOOP TO HAVE TO JUMP OVER.
THERE'S VERY FEW THINGS IN LIFE THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE 100% APPROVAL ON TO, TO MOVE FORWARD.
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I'M JUST REQUESTING THAT YOU GUYS REVISIT THAT REQUIREMENT.PASADENA DOES NOT HAVE THAT REQUIREMENT.
THERE ARE OTHER LARGE CITIES IN CALIFORNIA THAT DO NOT HAVE THE A HUNDRED PERCENT REQUIREMENT.
THANK YOU, ANDREAS, FOR THAT COMMENT.
IF THERE ARE NONE VIRTUALLY, IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FEATURE.
NOW, IF DIALING IN TELEPHONICALLY, PRESS STAR NINE NOW.
THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, ARE THERE ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSIONS REGARDING TONIGHT'S AGENDA ITEM? UH, COMMISSIONER PETE? SO, UM, I'D LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE THAT MADE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
THEY WERE, UM, UH, EDUCATIONAL AND ENLIGHTENING, UH, AND SPECIFIC.
UM, I WOULDN'T MIND HEARING WHAT MY OTHER COMMISSIONERS FEEL AB AND IF, UM, THE STAFF COULD GO BACK TO MY QUESTION OF THE A HUNDRED PERCENT AND DIALING THAT BACK AT SOME CAPACITY.
UM, I THINK, UM, CHAIR MCG, GUAN MENTIONED, UH, YOU KNOW, IT IN HIS, UM, COMMENTS TOO.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE CAN LOOK AT THAT WITH A, A NEW, UH, INSIGHT.
UH, UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER PIZO.
UM, WE ARE MISSING SOME COMMISSIONERS HERE TONIGHT AND I KNOW THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT ASPECT OF OUR DUTY AND I WOULD PROBABLY RECOMMEND THAT WE'LL SUBMIT ADDITIONAL COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE TIMELINE IS ON THE FINAL APPROVAL OF THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, BUT I WOULD HAVE TO SAY THAT I THINK OUR VOICES HAVE BEEN HEARD REGARDING A HUNDRED PERCENT PARTICIPATION AND SOME OTHER ITEMS. BUT AT THIS TIME, I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO HAVE STAFF TO CONSIDER, UH, ADDRESSING THIS OR WE'LL JUST, UM, BRING IT TO THE AGENDA ON ANOTHER, ANOTHER TIME.
UH, WE DID, UH, DEDICATE A SECTION IN THE REPORT TO IT.
I KNOW MARISSA HELPED SUMMARIZE THAT.
WE DID LOOK AT OTHER CITIES AND OUR LEGAL OBLIGATIONS AND, UH, WE ARE TRYING TO BALANCE MULTIPLE THINGS.
WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT MILLS ACT IS AN OPPORTUNITY AVAILABLE TO MULTI-FAMILY, UM, UH, HOUSING PROJECTS IN THE CITY.
WE KNOW THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR HOUSING STOCK AND OUR, UM, HISTORIC PRESERVATION EFFORT.
UM, BUT WE ALSO, IN LOOKING AT WHAT OTHER CITIES DO AND OUR CONCERNS WITH, UM, THE CONTRACTS THAT DO PREDATE THAT 100%, UH, REQUIREMENT ARE RECOMMENDATION HAS BEEN TO MAINTAIN, UM, THAT 100%.
BUT WE HEAR THE FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC.
WE HEAR THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT IT FROM COMMISSION AS WELL.
UM, SO WE'LL TAKE THAT BACK AND, AND DO SOME FURTHER ANALYSIS, LOOK AT MORE CASE STUDIES.
UM, AND IF YOU HAVE, UM, ADDITIONAL DIRECTION YOU WANNA PROVIDE HERE WHILE WE'RE IN THE STUDY SESSION, HAPPY TO TAKE IT INTO CONSIDERATION.
ONE OF THE OTHER, UM, ITEMS THAT I WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD MAYBE REVISIT IS, UM, WORK DONE BEFORE THE APPROVAL OF THE THE MILLS ACT.
NOW THAT WE HAVE, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE AND TRADITIONALLY THE CITY HAS NOT ALLOWED THIS, BUT NOW THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A TWO YEAR GAP, UM, OR, YOU KNOW, MISSING A YEAR, I'M WONDERING IF WE CAN REVISIT THAT AND, AND MAYBE SAY, OKAY, WE WILL CONSIDER SOME OF THE WORK AS LONG AS IT'S WITH DONE WITHIN THE GUIDELINES.
MAYBE THAT'S A POSSIBILITY TO CONSIDER.
YEAH, WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE A FURTHER LOOK INTO THAT.
I THINK PART OF THE CHALLENGE IS WHEN YOU'RE ENTERING INTO A CONTRACT, IT'S FOR, YOU KNOW, THOSE FUTURE, UM, WORK AGREEMENTS.
BUT HAPPY TO LOOK AT IF THERE IS CASE STUDIES FROM OTHER PLACES OR WHAT OTHER PRECEDENTS WE COULD, UH, CONSIDER.
I'M STILL THINKING ABOUT THIS 100% ATION.
THERE ARE SOME CO-OP BUILDINGS THAT ARE LANDMARKS THAT HAVE MILLS ACT CONTRACTS AREN'T THERE? I WANNA SAY THAT ALL OF 'EM HAVE, UH, TURNED OVER UNDER, UH, INTO LEGAL CONDOMINIUMS AS THE CURRENT LOST STATES.
SO IF IT'S A CONDOMINIUM AND THE HOA BOARD, I'M, I'M PROBABLY TALKING OUT LOUD TO MAKE THIS WORK IN MY HEAD.
AND THE CONDO BOARD RECEIVES A MAJORITY VOTER, SUPER MAJORITY VOTE DEPENDING ON THEIR, UH, CCNRS OR THEIR BYLAWS TO DO WORK FOR THE GENERAL BENEFIT OF THE BUILDING AS A WHOLE.
'CAUSE THEY OWN THE OUTSIDE, THEY DON'T
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NEED A HUNDRED PERCENT PARTICIPATION.AND IF IT'S A CONDO PROJECT THAT HAS A MILLS ACT CONTRACT, ARE THERE ANY MILLS ACT CONTRACTS THAT HAD WORK DONE, UH, THAT IS PUBLICLY VIEWABLE IN INDIVIDUAL UNITS? WE HAVE TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH ON THAT, BUT, UM, JUST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, MAYBE THE VILLA RIVIERA IS ONE EXAMPLE THAT HAS HAD, UM, SOME WORK DONE.
I THINK IT'S STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS.
UM, SO THERE ARE, YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE ARE SOME BUILDINGS, UM, IN DOWNTOWN IN PARTICULAR THAT HAVE PUBLIC LOBBIES THAT ARE PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE AND, UM, ARE PROTECTED BY ORDINANCE.
UM, BUT THAT'S ONE THAT WE PROBABLY HAVE TO DO SOME MORE RESEARCH ON.
'CAUSE I, I'M THINKING, YOU KNOW, A HISTORIC BUILDING THAT'S A CONDO MIGHT NEED, UH, EARTHQUAKE OR, UH, UPGRADES TO A SYSTEM LIKE SYSTEM WIDE UPGRADES THAT DO BENEFIT THE INDIVIDUALS.
BUT IF, IF IT WAS A NORMAL SYSTEMS UPGRADE, IT WOULDN'T REQUIRE A HUNDRED PERCENT UNLESS THE CONDO BYLAWS OR CCNRS REQUIRED THAT.
SO I AM, I AM ALSO, I AM QUESTIONING NOW THE A HUNDRED PERCENT BECAUSE, UH, WE ARE NOT WALKING INTO, INTO INDIVIDUALS UNITS.
AND I DID SEE SOMETHING IN YOUR PRESENTATION THAT TALKED ABOUT THE DIFFICULTY OF ACCESSING, UH, UNITS IN CONDOS.
DO WE ACTUALLY GO IN UNITS IN CONDOS TO INSPECT FOR SZA CONTRACTS? UM, NOT UNDER THE CURRENT LIST OF CONTRACTS, UH, THAT WERE UNDER THE CURRENT LIST OF PROPERTIES UNDER CONTRACT.
UH, BUT THE CONTRACT INFORMATION DOES ALLOW US, UH, OR DOES HAVE LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT WE CAN INSPECT INTERIORS.
UH, BUT CURRENTLY NONE OF THE PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE HAVE BEEN INSPECTED FOR INDIVIDUAL UNITS.
UM, SO IT MIGHT BE INTERESTING TO EXPLORE AN OPTION WHERE IF A CONDO WAS DOING THINGS THAT WERE VISIBLE, UH, MAYBE IT DOESN'T REQUIRE A HUNDRED PERCENT.
UH, IT COULD BE A SLIDING SCALE IF IT, YOU KNOW, IF IT WAS RELATED TO THE EXTERIOR OR A LANDMARKED LOBBY OR, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE EXTERIOR, UH, SOMETHING THAT IS VISIBLE AND IS A PUBLIC BENEFIT, I COULD SEE A REASON THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED.
UH, I I, I MIGHT FEEL DIFFERENTLY IF IT WAS BECAUSE THE BOILER SYSTEM HAD TO BE REPLACED.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE, UH, I WOULD LIKE MORE INPUT ON THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE AS YOU COME FORWARD WITH THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
DO WE HAVE ANY, OH, WE'VE GONE ON LONG BIT.
UM, GOING BACK TO THE EVERY OTHER YEAR, UM, UM, CONSIDERATION, UM, IS THAT PRIMARILY JUST BECAUSE OF THE, THE BODY OF, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU COULD USE THAT OFF YEAR TO, TO FOLLOW UP ON CONTRACTS.
UM, IS IT JUST AN OVERWHELMING AMOUNT TO DO THIS EVERY YEAR? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE ESSENCE? YEAH, IT JUST REALLY DOESN'T ALLOW ANY DOWNTIME FOR THE ADMINISTRATION AND OTHER SIDE OF IT.
SO WE START AROUND THIS TIME OF YEAR, NOVEMBER, PUTTING TOGETHER LIKE A PRESS RELEASE UPDATED WEBSITE, THINKING ABOUT WHEN THOSE WORKSHOPS WOULD BE SO WE CAN START RESERVING SPACES AND, UM, GETTING THE SPENDING APPROVALS TO, TO DO ALL THAT WHILE WE'RE STILL ACTUALLY RECORDING THE CONTRACTS FOR THIS YEAR.
SO THE APPLICATION FORMALLY OPENS RIGHT NOW AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF JANUARY.
'CAUSE YOU NEED THAT INITIAL UNDERSTANDING OF WHETHER IT WOULD EVEN MAKE SENSE FOR YOU.
AND THEN THAT FOLLOW UP INTERACTIVE WORKSHOP TO HELP, UM, MAKE SURE WE GET THE STRONGEST APPLICATIONS POSSIBLE.
WE CLOSE THAT IN EARLY MARCH, AND THEN WE'RE RUSHING TO TRY TO ANALYZE ALL OF THOSE APPLICATIONS TO SEE WHICH ONE STAFF ARE GONNA RECOMMEND TO MOVE FORWARD.
UM, IN ORDER TO LET THOSE, UM, APPLICANTS KNOW AND SCHEDULE A HEARING OR SCHEDULE AN AGENDA ITEM HERE BEFORE THE BODY AND A HEARING, IF IT IS, UH, INCLUDING LANDMARKS THAT USUALLY COMES BETWEEN MAY AND JULY TO THE COMMISSION AND IT TAKES, YOU KNOW, ABOUT TWO MONTHS TO PUT THAT PACKAGE TOGETHER, THEN IT HAS TO GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL
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WHO HAS TO CURE IT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN MID-SEPTEMBER AND MID-OCTOBER.SO IT'S A VERY TIGHT WINDOW BECAUSE IT'S AFTER THE BUDGET, UH, APPROVAL PROCESS ENDS.
BUT WITH ENOUGH TIME LEFT THAT WE CAN THEN GO LEGALLY RECORD ALL OF THOSE CONTRACTS WITH NOTARIZED SIGNATURES ON OUR SIDE AND THE PROPERTY OWNER SIDE WORKING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO HAVE THEM RECORDED BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
SO IT HASN'T BEEN UNCOMMON FOR US TO BE RACING TO THE COUNTY ON DECEMBER 31ST OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
AND THEN BY THEN, WE'VE ALREADY STARTED THE CYCLE FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
SO IT, IT IS REALLY TIGHT ON OUR END TO GET THAT ALL DONE, UH, AND TAKES A LOT OF STAFF RESOURCES TO DO IT.
WE ALSO HAVE NOTICED A PATTERN OF LIKE, I THINK WE'LL DO SOME FURTHER ANALYSIS BASED ON THIS FEEDBACK, BUT I'VE NOTICED A PATTERN OF SOME YEARS YOU GET A LOT MORE APPLICATIONS THAN OTHERS AND AFTER A BUSY YEAR OF APPLICATIONS YOU TEND TO GET FEWER.
UM, SO WE'LL DO A LITTLE ANALYSIS TO SEE IF THERE'S MORE DATA TO THAT OR IF THAT'S JUST MY REMEMBRANCE, BUT I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING TO THE TWO YEAR CYCLE THAT WOULD, UM, GIVE THAT STAFF CAPACITY FOR THE ADMINISTRATION AND INSPECTION SIDE, BUT ALSO ALLOW US INSTEAD OF OPENING IT UP JANUARY 1ST, YOU KNOW, WE COULD START THE PROCESS IN THE FALL SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE TIME TO WORK ON THAT APPLICATION, HAVE A LITTLE MORE BREATHING ROOM, UM, TO VET THE APPLICATIONS AND WORK WITH APPLICANTS TO GET THE STRONGEST, UM, UH, FOOT FORWARD, UH, TO IMPROVE THE PROCESS ITSELF AS WELL.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, UH, EXPLANATION.
THAT'S, UM, VERY TELLING AND, UM, YEAH, I, I DON'T NOT SUPPORT THIS CONCEPT BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT OFF TIME WILL BE BENEFICIAL AGAIN, IF YOU DO ANOTHER WORKSHOP OR YOU PREPARE PEOPLE TO DO WORKSHOPS.
I DON'T NECESSARILY FEEL THAT THAT'S GONNA BE, UM, A HINDRANCE, UM, TO PEOPLE BECAUSE IT DOES.
I, HAVING GONE THROUGH THE WORKSHOPS AND, AND, AND, UM, SEEING THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT'S GOT TO GO INTO THE APPLICATIONS, IT COULD BE, IT IS DAUNTING IN THIS SHORT TIMEFRAME THAT THAT, UH, OFFERS PEOPLE.
SO I THINK IF YOU GAVE THEM MORE TIME AND INSIGHT, UH, AHEAD OF TIME WHEN THE APPLICATION IS DUE, I THINK THAT ISN'T A BAD THING.
SO I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER PISO FOR THAT.
UM, WHATEVER WORKS FOR THE STAFF I THINK IS VALUABLE IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO BESIDES ALL YOUR OTHER, UH, RESPONSIBILITIES.
YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES HAS SUSPENDED THEIR PROGRAM AND HAS NOT, UH, ENGAGED YET.
SO THE LAST THING I WANNA DO IS, IS PUT MORE PRESSURE ON THE STAFF GOING FORWARD AND THEN HAVING TO SUSPEND THIS TYPE OF PROGRAM.
SO WHATEVER WORKED FOR YOU, AND MAYBE WE CAN WORK WITH THE PUBLIC, MAYBE EVEN MODIFY SOME OF THE, THE CRITERIA IF SOME HOMEOWNER DOES START THE, SOME OF THEIR WORK EARLY, UH, BEFORE THEIR APPLICATION'S APPROVED.
BUT AT THAT, I JUST WANT TO, UM, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK TODAY.
AS WELL AS FOR THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING THE MEETING.
DO WE NEED TO CALL FOR THE VOTE? YES, PLEASE.
MADAM CLERK CALL FOR THE VOTE.
[PUBLIC COMMENT Opportunity to address the Cultural Heritage Commission on non-agenda items. Each speaker is limited to three minutes to make their comments unless extended by the Chair.]
ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.AT THIS TIME WE'LL TAKE NON AGENDA ITEMS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON A NON AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT? IF THERE ARE NONE HERE VIRTUALLY.
IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON A NON AGENDAS ITEM, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FEATURE.
IF DIALING IN TELEPHONICALLY, PRESS STAR NINE NOW.
THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, ARE THERE ANY OTHER
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ANNOUNCEMENTS? I JUST WANNA AGAIN SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYONE FOR YOUR GRACIOUS PATIENCE, UH, IN, UH, ALLOWING ME TO BE A LITTLE BIT LATE TO ATTEND THIS MEETING.I'M GLAD YOU WERE ABLE TO MAKE IT 'CAUSE
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I DECLARE OUR MEETING ADJOURNED, I WANNA WISH EVERYONE A HAPPY HALLOWEEN AND A HOLIDAYS THAT ARE COMING UP.WE'LL BE DARK OVER THE NEXT TWO MONTHS AND, UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS IN THE NEW YEAR.